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Will Simpson be Head Coach at WCE in 2024


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Would like to see Woosha on the board. Wonder how that would sit with Simmo?

Why does everyone want past eagles to be on the board or have positions at the club. Get outside people in my view. That is what brings new ideas and new systems to the club.
 
What's the point of board members if you don't want them to make decisions?

You want a diverse board with a range of different skills, backgrounds and expertise, not all opinions and views are equal when considering different issues that a board needs to make decisions on.

On financial issues, you might lean heavily and give weight to the views of people on the board who have business/finance expertise.

On matters relating to the footy department and footy operations, you would think the board places weight on the views of people who have football and operational experience.

The fact that didn’t happen, and the board instead made a different decision to those with the most experience in the day to day running of a footy club is at minimum, very interesting.
 

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do we know that didn't happen? that 'football people' all recommended that simmo be sacked?

“Football people” in this case refers to Nisbett, who had a vested interest, and Jones, who as far as I’m aware hasn’t had any involvement in the football activity of any club other than as a player.

And it’s all based on the word of “The Snitch” in any event.
 
Why does everyone want past eagles to be on the board or have positions at the club. Get outside people in my view. That is what brings new ideas and new systems to the club.
Good point and one I considered also, of not recycling past leaders - But I saw a recent vid interview with Woosha on the subject of him being on the board, and he expressed an interest if asked and suggested he certainly had the necessary business and football qualifications. So while not wanting to keep recycling the same people at the risk of stagnating, he actually does seem a good fit for the job, or a job on the board.
But I'm sure past eagles are capable of bringing new ideas and systems to the club; they've since had broader experiences away from the club. It's not mutually exclusive. And I'm sure there's an argument that supports positive qualities in having ex-eagles returning to the club.
 
So you would have rather our board come out and say to our fans, sponsors, and stakeholders 'nah we're going to be s**t this year'?

What would they have done differently? Pre-emptively sacked Simmo at the start of the year and incurred an even greater pay-out? Foreseen the injury crisis that struck us in the first derby?



What do you think a board member actually does? It's not a full-time position, and it's not by coincidence that they're all well-connected people.



I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that Adam Simpson and Justin Langer are 'best friends'.
I would rather that they were more astute and clear headed than what they are. I would rather they familiarised themselves with the old maxim that you are what your record says you are. If you win two games in a season then you clearly have problems to solve. If they recognised how bad things actually are then they might have had a review a year ago (or two years ago) and started looking for the causes of how we got into the predicament we are in (which departments are underperforming and why, what bad decisions did we make and why did we make them, what skills do we lack, is our internal culture too matey and comfortable and not competitive and adversarial enough, is power and authority too centralised in a single figure, i.e. Nisbett), thought through the courses of action to move forward and started implementing.

I would rather than they were more humble and aware enough of their own fallibility to at least think twice and think carefully about what you are doing when every other person in the industry is laughing at you. It doesn't mean you are wrong and should immediately reverse course just because a majority of outside observers disagree with you. Don't completely substitute other peoples judgement for your own. But you should at least think twice. And if it is a unanimous chorus and not just a majority, and if it is seasoned experienced people within the industry and not just random public opinion that is very strongly disagreeing with you you should definately think twice. It is pretty unlikely in those circumstances that you are anywhere near 100% right. If they were to walk you through their rationale as for why they thought they were right and everybody else was wrong 12 months ago do you think it would make one skerrick of sense or be even marginally coherent and logical?

Why does it matter how "well connected" they are? What does that mean and why does it matter to the smooth and high level day to functioning of a football club to have people on the Board with a fat rolodex? How does that translate into better decisions and outcomes for the club? It obviously doesn't.

It is very well known that Langer and Simpson are best mates and their families even go on holiday together.
 
Sigh … source?

What you need a source for? It's not a court of law here.

It is well known they are mates.

From AFL website just last week

The former Test star is close friends with Simpson but it remains to be seen whether Langer can convince the rest of the board to stick with the current coach.

"It's a challenge for JL because he's on the board," Simpson replied when asked what words of advice Langer has had for him.

"He's going to make decisions based on what's best for the club, not for me. So that's separate.

"But in terms of what he's been through and how he's handled it, and what he's experienced (during his own coaching career), that's invaluable.

"He is and always will be a good friend of mine. I respect his leadership and what he's done for the club, and for me personally."


Not much a long bow to draw that the families may of gone away together at some point is it?
 
Why does everyone want past eagles to be on the board or have positions at the club. Get outside people in my view. That is what brings new ideas and new systems to the club.
Well John Worsfold is a football person that has spent time at West Coast, Essendon, Adelaide and Carlton.
he is well educated a good person and a club legend. Would have far more credibility and passion for West Coast than any external candidates.
 
Well John Worsfold is a football person that has spent time at West Coast, Essendon, Adelaide and Carlton.
he is well educated a good person and a club legend. Would have far more credibility and passion for West Coast than any external candidates.

Yes he is a football person and he has been a football person at those clubs. No problem if you want to be on the board and sit in the background but surely you don't want him involved with football now? I think his time has passed.
 

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What you need a source for? It's not a court of law here.

It is well known they are mates.

From AFL website just last week

The former Test star is close friends with Simpson but it remains to be seen whether Langer can convince the rest of the board to stick with the current coach.

"It's a challenge for JL because he's on the board," Simpson replied when asked what words of advice Langer has had for him.

"He's going to make decisions based on what's best for the club, not for me. So that's separate.

"But in terms of what he's been through and how he's handled it, and what he's experienced (during his own coaching career), that's invaluable.

"He is and always will be a good friend of mine. I respect his leadership and what he's done for the club, and for me personally."


Not much a long bow to draw that the families may of gone away together at some point is it?

Just seems like a strange claim to make, that it’s well known that the families go on holidays together.

I didn’t know it and I apparently have no job and no life so I live on here.
 
"not a long bow"

the bow in question:

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It’s a really annoying trend for people to claim something is well known or common knowledge, then get their hackles up when questioned about whether it’s well known or common knowledge or even the case at all.

If I was a cynical man, I’d say that they’re just saying stuff that suits them and adding “it’s common knowledge that…” in order to give that stuff an undeserved air of legitimacy. Good thing I’m not that.
 
Simpson and Langer are friends that’s common knowledge

Just how deep their friendship goes I’m not sure, nor do I give a ****

I certainly don’t care if they went on family holidays together

Argue about something more important

Like were there donuts or lamingtons at the board meeting
 
not sure about you but i'm 'good friends' with a lot of people but haven't had family vacations with any of them

As am I and the exact same. I just don't think it needs to be questioned though because none of us know it is or isn't true. What proof do you have it isn't true?
It's just not important. The fact that they are good mates was what he was really stating.
 
Simpson and Langer are friends that’s common knowledge

Just how deep their friendship goes I’m not sure, nor do I give a *

I certainly don’t care if they went on family holidays together

Argue about something more important

Like were there donuts or lamingtons at the board meeting

There was a fully catered strategic lunch, or so I understand.
 
I posit that Langer and Simpson are both Kang and Kodos in disguise posing as humans in an alien attempt to take over the club, what proof do you have that that isnt true?

see here

Is this because you saw them exchanging long protein strings?
 
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