Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Not Important]

thats why trump wants his ny 34 guilty charges case dismissed so he hasnt got the word felon next to his name. hope the judge doesnt dismiss the case but there will be pressure in him and at least a special tax audit on him and all the judges (bar cannon) and smith prosecutors who charged him etc and ags willis, james, bragg

whatever trump does it won't exonerate him, as smith has said.

 

[Bloods86]

Heard an interesting American chap on RN today who said lots of christians saw the near miss assassination attempt as a sign ( from god presumably) - that meant trump was their guy because he survived it. Any one who votes for trump can’t possibly be a Christian can they? There really is too much amiss with that country if he is right.

Selective reading (and misreading) of the Bible, used over decades, to side evangelical Christianity (and some other groups) with the Republican party.

The idea that Christians are supposed to transform their government into a theocracy isn't biblical. But it's been a tool used, in combination with a focus on particular "moral" issues like same sex relationships and abortion (which the Bible doesn't even have a position on), to get many Christians in lockstep politically. Also an unhealthy mix of "prosperity gospel" teaching, where Christians are supposed to be rich and powerful (and so the economy and rich people are sacred).

Ignoring all the inconvenient teachings and examples about foreigners, refugees, self sacrifice for others, the poor, wealth redistribution etc.

 

[Romeoh1]

Selective reading (and misreading) of the Bible, used over decades, to side evangelical Christianity (and some other groups) with the Republican party.

The idea that Christians are supposed to transform their government into a theocracy isn't biblical. But it's been a tool used, in combination with a focus on particular "moral" issues like same sex relationships and abortion (which the Bible doesn't even have a position on), to get many Christians in lockstep politically. Also an unhealthy mix of "prosperity gospel" teaching, where Christians are supposed to be rich and powerful (and so the economy and rich people are sacred).

Ignoring all the inconvenient teachings and examples about foreigners, refugees, self sacrifice for others, the poor, wealth redistribution etc.

Yep ok. Deeply embedded stuff. Pretty nutty though. Crooked thinking.

 

[Bloods86]

Yep ok. Deeply embedded stuff. Pretty nutty though. Crooked thinking.

End Times stuff is pretty big in the US too, lots of people making money off their latest theories.

So if Trump is seen as an enemy to evil, friend to Israel etc (the pivotal nation) and he's targeted, it can tie in with a lot of that sort of stuff.

 

[Romeoh1]

End Times stuff is pretty big in the US too, lots of people making money off their latest theories.

So if Trump is seen as an enemy to evil, friend to Israel etc (the pivotal nation) and he's targeted, it can tie in with a lot of that sort of stuff.

Yes, I can see that thinking.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Heard an interesting American chap on RN today who said lots of christians saw the near miss assassination attempt as a sign ( from god presumably) - that meant trump was their guy because he survived it. Any one who votes for trump can’t possibly be a Christian can they? There really is too much amiss with that country if he is right.

Its just some lunatic's imagination of why Trump won.
RN make me laugh - where do they find these people?

Sadly a lot of gullible people fall for this rubbish mainly because they want it to be true.

 

[Bloods86]

Its just some lunatic's imagination of why Trump won.
RN make me laugh - where do they find these people?

Sadly a lot of gullible people fall for this rubbish mainly because they want it to be true.

Interesting comment from someone who claims wokeism was a top 3 reason why Trump won, and can't back it up.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Interesting comment from someone who claims wokeism was a top 3 reason why Trump won, and can't back it up.

Again, its come up in just about every post mortem conducted on the election. If you don't want to believe it and keep your head buried in the sand then I can't help you.

 

[faible]

Again, its come up in just about every post mortem conducted on the election. If you don't want to believe it and keep your head buried in the sand then I can't help you.

Yep. Harris ran a super-woke campaign.

Didn't mention trans rights

Democrats accuse Harris campaign of ‘malpractice’ for silence on Trump trans attacks

One of Trump’s most-aired attack ads in the presidential election ended with the statement: ‘Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you’

www.independent.co.uk

Didn't mention her gender

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/19/kamala-harris-gender-2024-election-00174530

You know who did mention trans people and gender? Trump.

Once more, you've been had.

 

[Bloods86]

Again, its come up in just about every post mortem conducted on the election. If you don't want to believe it and keep your head buried in the sand then I can't help you.

No, your original claim was polling. Not post mortem gasbagging by media or Dem operatives who unfortunately are also influenced by the concocted outrage from their conservative counterparts.

 

[bourbons]

Again, its come up in just about every post mortem conducted on the election. If you don't want to believe it and keep your head buried in the sand then I can't help you.

American MSM being notorious for having their finger on the pulse.

Depends what you're watching I guess. You provided one example from establishment/corporate democrats, anything else?

 

[Romeoh1]

Its just some lunatic's imagination of why Trump won.
RN make me laugh - where do they find these people?

Sadly a lot of gullible people fall for this rubbish mainly because they want it to be true.

Well I take it, you actually didn’t hear it so you have no idea if he’s a lunatic. Then he didn’t, and I didn’t say -that is why trump won the election.
His name was Thomas Frank and he didn’t seem like an idiot to me. Wrote a thoughtful article in the New York Times. So I guess that’s where they found him- I know so woke hey!

 

[Spearman]

I believe that conservative messaging about things they label "woke" has an impact, rather than actual impact of "woke" actions/policy, though I wouldn't have it Top 3 or even 5.

This, x100
Woke issues are fabricated inflated fever dreams from the fringe elevated by pols and their propaganda ecosystems. They hit average joe from all points of their media bubble 24/7. The only real issue with those anti-woke messaging is when those fraudulently enraged zombies act out at PTA and town meetings, and things like books get banned, or people assaulted because they've been made a target.
That IS the 'woke' issue.
Those most susceptible to being captured by culture war tactics, who aren't already rusted on, are the ones who within the bubble, but not particularly focused on the actually politics going on. That small percentage of their consciousness used on politics has been washed by that powerful media messaging. So someone in rural PA has a fear reflex when they hear the word trans or immigrant. And they turn to name on the ballot that that same media has been flavoring with positivity.

 

[Saint Shags]

Soros!

I find it quite interesting that conservatives will shout out anti-semetism when speaking about opposition to Israel's current efforts.

Yet will proudly bring up Soros as some form of conspiracy about certain people having too much influence. Do they not connect the dots or is it simply a matter of the subtle anti-semetic views are ok for my side of the argument?

 

[Spearman]

Yep ok. Deeply embedded stuff. Pretty nutty though. Crooked thinking.

Makes me ever so thankful to be born to people of Scandinavian extract from northern Minnesota and Lutheran. These people only ever got excited about fishing, hunting, the Twins and the Vikings. The biggest compliment they give is "not bad". Kind of hard to imagine them getting too weird about an invisible sky guy. Even our pastor had paperbacks like Chariots of the Gods sort of stuff.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Heard an interesting American chap on RN today who said lots of christians saw the near miss assassination attempt as a sign ( from god presumably) - that meant trump was their guy because he survived it. Any one who votes for trump can’t possibly be a Christian can they? There really is too much amiss with that country if he is right.

If you see "Christian" as having nothing to do with the actual teachings of the gospels, then yeah you can be Christian and a Trump follower nowadays.

 

[parsons nose]

Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen.bsky.social)

I’m curious how much federal funding he thinks the ACLU receives (it’s none).

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I immediately thought of this cretin.

 

[Borough Blood]

Makes me ever so thankful to be born to people of Scandinavian extract from northern Minnesota and Lutheran. These people only ever got excited about fishing, hunting, the Twins and the Vikings. The biggest compliment they give is "not bad". Kind of hard to imagine them getting too weird about an invisible sky guy. Even our pastor had paperbacks like Chariots of the Gods sort of stuff.

Surely they’re on board with the Wolves by now?

 

[Spearman]

Surely they’re on board with the Wolves by now?

Well one branch were, a cousin-in-law coached them for a while.

 

[Not Important]

 

[Spearman]

 

[Festerz]

I loved The Economist magazine's 2024 Word of the Year:

kakistocracy

A kakistocracy is a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word is derived from two Greek words, kakistos (κάκιστος; worst) and kratos (κράτος; rule), with a literal meaning of government by the worst people.

Sits well alongside 'Brain Rot' which is Oxford University's Word(s) of the year.

Perfect descriptors for the re-election of Trump as the US President.

 

[Festerz]

Well I take it, you actually didn’t hear it so you have no idea if he’s a lunatic. Then he didn’t, and I didn’t say -that is why trump won the election.
His name was Thomas Frank and he didn’t seem like an idiot to me. Wrote a thoughtful article in the New York Times. So I guess that’s where they found him- I know so woke hey!

Wouldn't bother to much with the narrow minded echo chamber opinions of old mate MPM - if it's not in the Murdoch Press it's not real according to them.

As you say, Frank is a US political analyst, historian, journalist and columnist for Harper's Magazine. His writing is deliberately provocative and needs to be taken with a grain of salt. But the stinging criticism of the Democrat electioneering in this paragraph from his New York Times article of 9 November (titled 'Elites Had it Coming') has more than a ring of truth to it imho:

'Liberals had nine years to decipher Mr. Trump’s appeal — and they failed. The Democrats are a party of college graduates, as the whole world understands by now, of Ph.D.s and genius-grant winners and the best consultants money can buy. Mr. Trump is a con man straight out of Mark Twain; he will say anything, promise anything, do nothing. But his movement baffled the party of education and innovation. Its most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.'

As Trumpian-style populist politicking, backed by a cheerleading Murdoch media empire, takes hold in Australia and other parts of the western world, it's a criticism that can also be levelled at anti-right wing forces globally.

But there's also a need to reflect on the fact that the Trump victory was far from being the overwhelming landslide and "unprecedented and powerful mandate" Trump claimed on election night and his supporters are parroting across social media platforms. In fact, even setting aside the huge numbers of Americans who don't bother to get out and vote, this year's popular-vote margin is the second-closest since 1968. It shows just how closely divided the US is politically, and that any shift to the right is marginal.

 

[troybe]

Aww, don’t they make a cute couple

 

[Satan]

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Aww, don’t they make a cute couple

Is wife no 3 there?