List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.3

[TheJackal]

Did we delist McKenzie before start night last year? I believe he only missed out on a contract due to Shoey being available

DMac was officially delisted a couple of weeks before the draft. We left the door ajar to get him again, probably via SPP.

There was still a spot there for him even after we got Arie. It was the PSD selection of Bonner that meant there was no longer a spot available for DMac.

He went to Freo to train, was going to train at the Suns too but ended up getting injured at a Freo session and that was that for his career.

 

[ThomasR]

Question: if we pass on one of our later draft picks hoping for one of our NGAs to slide through to the rookie draft, and a bid comes in after that, can we then match that bid with our next pick (assuming bid is post pick 40)?

E.g. we haven’t delisted Hotton by draft night and decide to pass on one of our picks intending to give him another year. But on the night Peckett gets bid on late when we’d been planning to rookie him. Could we then match the bid knowing that we’d have to then delist Hotton to make space on the senior list?

I believe that if we nominate Peckett as F/S in the national draft we are compelled to take him with our last pick (if nobody bids), so there will always be a pick set aside for him. If we don't, then we can't match a bid, but can pre-list him as a rookie if he gets through. This applies to F/S only, not NGAs. Will be interesting to see which way we go with this, I am thinking rookie if anything

 

[bergholt]

Question: if we pass on one of our later draft picks hoping for one of our NGAs to slide through to the rookie draft, and a bid comes in after that, can we then match that bid with our next pick (assuming bid is post pick 40)?

E.g. we haven’t delisted Hotton by draft night and decide to pass on one of our picks intending to give him another year. But on the night Peckett gets bid on late when we’d been planning to rookie him. Could we then match the bid knowing that we’d have to then delist Hotton to make space on the senior list?

You only have picks if you have empty list spots to fill with them. If we’ve passed a pick then it means we had an empty list spot, so we’d still have room to match a bid.

 

[bergholt]

Darcy Hipwell deserves the selection the most on those numbers.

Darby

 

[akaifu]

Did we delist McKenzie before start night last year? I believe he only missed out on a contract due to Shoey being available

McKenzie was delisted pre-draft with the plan of re-rookie-ing him during SSP I believe

That changed when Arie was drafted

 

[The Punter]

My recollection is that it was the Bonner signing that meant we were not bringing McKenzie back.

 

[akaifu]

My recollection is that it was the Bonner signing that meant we were not bringing McKenzie back.

No, we were always going to take a rookie. SOS said we did not expect Arie to be available that late so we decided to take the extra kid over re-signing D-Mac

 

[Tommy Wigs]

My recollection is that it was the Bonner signing that meant we were not bringing McKenzie back.

From memory, they had made up their mind that they were taking Bonner at some point - maybe very late in the ND? Schoons was what pushed him back and ultimately D Mac out. IIRC.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Darby

Could be another one with McCray, Clarke and Darce Hibwell

 

[ScrappyDo]

Saints 5th round pick will fall around 60 as it did with Scooner last year. Assuming a bid on Cole after our 3rd rounder it'll push us back to the 6th round or about pick 70 for matching Hoff or Peckett. Do we think there's better prospects at p70 than Hoff or Peckett. At that point its hard to gauge.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Saints 5th round pick will fall around 60 as it did with Scooner last year. Assuming a bid on Cole after our 3rd rounder it'll push us back to the 6th round or about pick 70 for matching Hoff or Peckett. Do we think there's better prospects at p70 than Hoff or Peckett. At that point its hard to gauge.

Starting to feel like Hofenhaus might be a pretty decent prospect.

 

[BrutThough]

Saints 5th round pick will fall around 60 as it did with Scooner last year. Assuming a bid on Cole after our 3rd rounder it'll push us back to the 6th round or about pick 70 for matching Hoff or Peckett. Do we think there's better prospects at p70 than Hoff or Peckett. At that point its hard to gauge.

Maybe for Peckett but Hoff looks like a steal with a late pick.

 

[botts]

Starting to feel like Hofenhaus might be a pretty decent prospect.

Might have a very aerian back line with schoenmaker and Hoffmann.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Darby

Derby

 

[Armoooo]

Might have a very aerian back line with schoenmaker and Hoffmann.

We'll need to pinch Sheezel from North to balance it out a bit

 

[ScrappyDo]

Starting to feel like Hofenhaus might be a pretty decent prospect.

Absolutely

 

[SteeleSaints]

Starting to feel like Hofenhaus might be a pretty decent prospect.

Get excited Tommy he will be our next Wilkie only with speed.

 

[Armoooo]

Get excited Tommy he will be our next Wilkie only with speed.

Bit if a high expectation to place on a kid tipped to be a late pick isn't it? An improvement on one of our all time best defenders.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Bit if a high expectation to place on a kid tipped to be a late pick isn't it? An improvement on one of our all time best defenders.

Its a prediction not an expectation and you can book mark my prediction if you like, the kid will be very good!

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Starting to feel like Hofenhaus might be a pretty decent prospect.

Get excited Tommy he will be our next Wilkie only with speed.

Or the Hof may be very, very slow

 

[Armoooo]

Its a prediction not an expectation and you can book mark my prediction if you like, the kid will be very good!

Hope you're right mate

 

[akaifu]

Saints 5th round pick will fall around 60 as it did with Scooner last year. Assuming a bid on Cole after our 3rd rounder it'll push us back to the 6th round or about pick 70 for matching Hoff or Peckett. Do we think there's better prospects at p70 than Hoff or Peckett. At that point its hard to gauge.

Hofmann would be great value in the 4th/5th rounds

I'm not big on Peckett. Had the sugar hit when he kicked 5 in the CTL but overall he's pretty average

There are a few medium forwards around late/rookie range. Cody Angove is a Higgins-type forward, Murphy a Membrey-type, Mentha a Betts-type. Josh Dolan more a pressure forward. Ned Bowman an SA prospect who has major x-factor

If we don't plan on taking HHK as our sandy rookie, I reckon one of those smalls would boost our depth late in the draft

 

[HeavenlySources]

Hofmann would be great value in the 4th/5th rounds

I'm not big on Peckett. Had the sugar hit when he kicked 5 in the CTL but overall he's pretty average

There are a few medium forwards around late/rookie range. Cody Angove is a Higgins-type forward, Murphy a Membrey-type, Mentha a Betts-type. Josh Dolan more a pressure forward. Ned Bowman an SA prospect who has major x-factor

If we don't plan on taking HHK as our sandy rookie, I reckon one of those smalls would boost our depth late in the draft

Angove is the one I’d get. If we don’t nominate Peckett and he gets picked up elswhere its not a great look for our budding father-son program. Still yet to get a half decent prospect through to inspire others.


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[ScrappyDo]

Hofmann would be great value in the 4th/5th rounds

I'm not big on Peckett. Had the sugar hit when he kicked 5 in the CTL but overall he's pretty average

There are a few medium forwards around late/rookie range. Cody Angove is a Higgins-type forward, Murphy a Membrey-type, Mentha a Betts-type. Josh Dolan more a pressure forward. Ned Bowman an SA prospect who has major x-factor

If we don't plan on taking HHK as our sandy rookie, I reckon one of those smalls would boost our depth late in the draft

Since we weren't able to land a defender or a Ruckman during trade period, l think it's likely the knock on effect is that Elwood now find himself further down the order of priority and will be very very lucky to get listed by Stkilda.
I'm pretty comfortable with Cole as a 3rdRDP and Hoff as a 4thRDP, both at no cost.
Elwood is a piece that doesn't quite fit to optimise our spots.

 

[maanco]

Derby

Herby