List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Kangaroos4eva]

The melts have begun and we still have weeks before the trade season starts. Love it!

Bring this one out every trade season.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Sam De Koning

that would be huge

Rather him over Houston

Send them our future first

 

[buttox]

I’d do F1> Balta+Richmond F2.

I doubt Richmond would go for that.
There pretty much guaranteed pick 2 next year. Our f1 is already a chance to be worse than that. I doubt they would hand over a f2 as well.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Where would SDK play for us ideally?

 

[The Big O]

Where would SDK play for us ideally?

CHB. Chom forward.

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[THE_GUN]

I doubt Richmond would go for that.
There pretty much guaranteed pick 2 next year. Our f1 is already a chance to be worse than that. I doubt they would hand over a f2 as well.

I can see offers of $1.3 mil x 6 years coming for Balta next year and if Balta can be convinced to leave Rich ond would allow it to go throw with the #2 compo

If it was to get done this year i couldnt imagine anything apart from your 2024 #2 without anything going back to get that done. But id be certain Richmond would be thinking play him another year and take #2 and either Dyson/Ludowyke with that pick in 2025. I love Balta but i think that combination along with our haul this year would just about complete all pieces of the rebuild and hunt for a free agent /s in 2026

 

[Roosurgence]

Not sure why Richmond would do that

Keep Balta another year on a cheap contract and let him go next year to get pick #2 and get Sharp & Ludowyke
I would highly doubt there would be anything going back for #2 as thats almost guaranteed in 2025

I can’t see North giving up straight Pick 2 for Balta.

I don’t see how a deal gets done this year as effectively a club will pick him up for cap space and Richmond will most likely get Pick 2 in 2025.

Who knows maybe Yze thinks this year was an outlier and you won’t finish bottom next year or they have 2 specific players at 1 and 2 that they want to get into the system this year instead of a year later?

Maybe they have eyes on a Free Agent next year that would dilute that compo?

As good as Balta is, if we have up Pick 2 with nothing coming back then that would be negligent.

At the end of the day Richmond hold the cards, so I honestly think he plays there next year and if he moves, it’s as a Free Agent.

 

[Roosurgence]

I’d do F1> Balta+Richmond F2.

Same.

I still think Richmond hold knowing he will most likely nett them Band 1 next year.

That all changes if they have a Free Agent in mind next year that potentially dilutes any Balta compo, but in that case they probably just trade for the FA.

I just don’t see how it gets done this year, but totally agree that getting a player like Balta into our system this year is worth it at the right price.

 

[THE_GUN]

Same.

I still think Richmond hold knowing he will most likely nett them Band 1 next year.

That all changes if they have a Free Agent in mind next year that potentially dilutes any Balta compo, but in that case they probably just trade for the FA.

I just don’t see how it gets done this year, but totally agree that getting a player like Balta into our system this year is worth it at the right price.

I would doubt we have a free agent next year but if we did then we match what ever offer Balta gets to keep him

 

[Roosurgence]

I would doubt we have a free agent next year but if we did then we match what ever offer Balta gets to keep him

Most clubs will puff the chest out, but if the player wants to leave then usually something gets done.

I haven’t even heard that Balta wants out of Richmond, so I don’t even know if this is pure fantasy stuff or there is some kind of inside chatter?

 

[THE_GUN]

Most clubs will puff the chest out, but if the player wants to leave then usually something gets done.

I haven’t even heard that Balta wants out of Richmond, so I don’t even know if this is pure fantasy stuff or there is some kind of inside chatter?

Its all chatter as he is a free agent next year and could have his turned if the numbers are big enough

 

[My Left Foote]

Luke Parker = the Nervous Parallel

Luke Parker = It's raining I'll just grab my

 

[New_Roo]

I can see offers of $1.3 mil x 6 years coming for Balta next year and if Balta can be convinced to leave Rich ond would allow it to go throw with the #2 compo

If it was to get done this year i couldnt imagine anything apart from your 2024 #2 without anything going back to get that done. But id be certain Richmond would be thinking play him another year and take #2 and either Dyson/Ludowyke with that pick in 2025. I love Balta but i think that combination along with our haul this year would just about complete all pieces of the rebuild and hunt for a free agent /s in 2026

And just like that.... out of a rebuild in a year!


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[THE_GUN]

And just like that.... out of a rebuild in a year!


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I can just hear Kevin Sheehan voice

This has never happened before where a club has had 10 1st round picks in 2 years apart from plastic clubs owned by the AFL.

 

[roos_tt29]

Luke Parker = It's raining I'll just grab my

Luke "Deep Into The" Parker (for you Mighty Boosh fans out there)

 

[LuvtheKangas]

The fact that he is a best 22 lock ahead of some of more talented, younger players, is why he supports the point IMO.

If he is best 22, then it supports the quality over quantity strategy, which 100% refutes what you were saying. (Although I don't think he's best 22, but good depth).

There is just no evidence supporting your call that the strategy is quantity over quality.

 

[gokangas]

Herald Sun's latest take - Jon Ralph.

5. NORTH MELBOURNE​

IMPORTANCE OF 2024 OFF-SEASON: 7

CHALLENGES OF NAILING THE OFF-SEASON: 8

North Melbourne can’t be mediocre forever. As Alastair Clarkson said at the club’s best-and-fairest, six years of ordinary finishes is enough.

For the record, those finishes are 17th this year, 17th, 18th, 18th, 17th and 12th.

North Melbourne finally has a ruckman in Tristan Xerri

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Tristan Xerri

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

D

5.5

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.5

3star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.5

5star

and a midfield that could one day be elite. But there are so many holes – a second key forward (Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

25

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

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13.0

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K

6.0

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7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

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G

0.0

1star

is on nearly $500,000 a year and hasn’t cut it), rebounding defenders (Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

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7.0

4star

M

3.0

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0.0

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MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

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6.8

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5.4

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1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

didn’t make the top 10 in the best-and-fairest, Luke McDonald squeezed into ninth), more small forwards even though Paul Curtis was a find with 30 goals.

The Roos need some veterans. Picture: Brendon Thorne/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
Pay Luke Parker

26

Luke Parker

Age

31

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

whatever you want to get him to the club as a leader and mid-forward because even turning 32 in October he might have three quality years left.

People are scoffing at the Jack Darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

acquisition – and they should given he’s a 191cm forward who has lost his leap. He took a career low 3.2 marks (and 0.9 contested marks) but it shows how impossible it is to get quality players to Arden Street.

The Roos are open to giving up a future first-rounder for Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

, but when you haven’t finished out of the bottom two in the past five years that shapes as a recipe for disaster.

Especially when Houston turns 28 in May and might only give them five seasons for a very, very likely top four pick.

 

[toepoker]

Not sure Ralphy knows what "mediocre" means

 

[DuckYeah]

Submit questions. WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING WEST COAST ANY PICKS FOR DARLING. The bloke is smoked. **** that. Wet toast should be giving us their second rounder to take the big dopey campaigner

 

[Rooniversity]

Hope Luke uses one of these to sign up with us.

Parker = The Pen

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Herald Sun's latest take - Jon Ralph.

5. NORTH MELBOURNE​

...

North Melbourne finally has a ruckman in Tristan Xerri

I'm sure Goldie would be chuffed to read that.

 

[New_Roo]

I can just hear Kevin Sheehan voice

This has never happened before where a club has had 10 1st round picks in 2 years apart from plastic clubs owned by the AFL.

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I think some estimations of picks is a little hopeful but will see.... eg Never in a month of Sundays is Rioli a top ten pick, Bolton is maybe one and baker early 20


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[shinboner magic]

I know the family are big fans of Xerri.

Safer to play on the sane side

SDK is worth a pick in the 20s at best

 

[zoomba23]

That headband culture isn't coming within 100 feet of Arden st.

I've put I've with lately, don't send me over the edge!

We can excuse lifeless and pathetic performance year in and year out, but we draw the line at w***erish headwear. I like it

 

[chickenonachain]

I think some estimations of picks is a little hopeful but will see.... eg Never in a month of Sundays is Rioli a top ten pick, Bolton is maybe one and baker early 20


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It’s the same thing for all teams and their supporters outgoing players are overvalued and their incoming players who they want are undervalued

 

[My Left Foote]

Put up or shut up, give it your best shot, time to put forward all of your draft and trade scenarios.