Preview 2023 National Draft Preview Thread [currently: #2, #14 (PA), #19 (PP) #40, #52, #60]

[Sphynx]

Assuming pick 11 assistance, and Mackay 3.

My preferences:
1st) 2 & 11 for Reid & 19
2) 2 & 14 for Reid
3) 2 & 11 for Reid & 35
4) Take 2, 3, 11, 14 to draft
5) Trade GC: 4 for 11&14

If AFL give us a pick 11, it's with a deal done already imo.

I think it's worth paying for Reid, with the intangibles of having Marquee player, potentially a match winner, you cough up a pick in the teens and don't think twice.

If Reid adds to the wardlaw & sheezel hype, you get pick 14 value back with the ease...

We just traded an F2 for Logue who was Pick 8. No superstar, but an example of recovering pick 11-14 value.

North don't attract stars of the competition. And in an unprecedented manner, just lost an interstate bosom suckler pick 1.

So, when there's a pick 1 on offer, who's a Victorian, who's requesting to remain in Victoria, who can play at both ends, wins matches, will drum up hype, potentially becoming a marquee face of the game, and your North melbourne, the least attractive club in the state, with no hope of ever trading or recruiting said player, you grab that opportunity with both hands in my opinion.

Thinking pick 14 moves the rebuild needle more than Reid is a bit of a head scratcher from how I see it.

But we all see things differently.

2 AND 3, for 1...I can see that being egregious for sure.

But coughing up 11, or 14... which becomes 14 and 17... whatever. It's a pick in the teens, who gives a...

11 and 14 for 5
Take 2,3,5 to the draft would be close to my number 1

The Port pick and PP will be about pick 16 and 19 on draft night.

Curtin, McKercher, Watson

 

[Shinboner roo]

Forget about Reid, WC would want way overs to trade the pick anyway, he's in a nice to have basket but not a necessary with where we are as a list. Bid on Walter at 2 and take 2 of Curtin/mckercher/Watson at 3 and 4 and get creative with the Porf pick with our future second.

 

[JGreezy]

I’ve only just come across this post but it is perhaps the most insightful I have seen from an opposition board. We need our picks as they stand and you need your picks as they stand. Pick 14 is going to give you a lot of good KPP options without reaching and is hugely valuable thanks to Port’s inevitable f**k up. If we are stupid enough to take Curtin at 1 (I hope we aren’t) then we get what we deserve but I don’t think #1 is leaving WCE without getting #2 and #3 back as part of the deal which would be stupid by North. Both clubs need to stick to their guns and everything will work out just fine.

I think that most people get all of this and there is every chance that things stay as is, at the top of the draft.

However, there is a lot of noise about Reid not wanting to go to WA and there is a lot of noise about North trading for Reid (which would happen if WC are nervous about Reid, due to the point above that they should obviously just draft him).

That noise might just be nonsense but none of us really know and it is persistent.

I have McKercher 3rd and right on the tail of Reid/Walter. I think that McKercher + pick 14 is better value than just Reid. WC could look at things similarly. Curtin may not be their target.

 

[Deleted member 98541]

11 and 14 for 5
Take 2,3,5 to the draft would be close to my number 1

The Port pick and PP will be about pick 16 and 19 on draft night.

Curtin, McKercher, Watson

2,3,11,14 or 2,3,5 Either way there will be NonNorth melts.



Hawks board thinking we take Duursma.

Wierd, haven't seen a single poster here think Duursma's an option.

 

[JGreezy]

2,3,11,14 or 2,3,5 Either way there will be NonNorth melts.



Hawks board thinking we take Duursma.

Wierd, haven't seen a single poster here think Duursma's an option.

I'd prefer 2, 3, 11, 14. More rolls of the dice. But wouldn't be surprised if the club love someone at 5 and would feel different

 

[Deleted member 98541]

I'd prefer 2, 3, 11, 14. More rolls of the dice. But wouldn't be surprised if the club love someone at 5 and would feel different

If you knew Edwards was a long term lock pick 14 turning 18 would be a perfect list fit.

11 would find a KPD.

for some positive draft hand news.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

What’s the format of the draft this year? God I hope it’s not over two nights again.

 

[krakouers]

What’s the format of the draft this year? God I hope it’s not over two nights again.

AFL confirms dates for 2023 AFL Trade and Draft period

The League has confirmed the dates for the 2023 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period and the 2023 AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

“Round One of the 2023 AFL National Draft will be held on Monday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the National Draft on Tuesday, November 21. The Rookie Draft and Pre-Season Draft will take place on Wednesday, November 22.”

 

[eaglevision]

I think that most people get all of this and there is every chance that things stay as is, at the top of the draft.

However, there is a lot of noise about Reid not wanting to go to WA and there is a lot of noise about North trading for Reid (which would happen if WC are nervous about Reid, due to the point above that they should obviously just draft him).

That noise might just be nonsense but none of us really know and it is persistent.

I have McKercher 3rd and right on the tail of Reid/Walter. I think that McKercher + pick 14 is better value than just Reid. WC could look at things similarly. Curtin may not be their target.

Reid’s manager and the eagles are both on record saying it’s not an issue. No doubt most kids would rather stay in their home state but one thing you can be certain of is that the eagles won’t trade out pick 1 on that basis. We’ll back our culture and retention. It will only be traded if the kids that come in instead of Reid are seen to be of more benefit to the club than Reid alone. I’m pretty confident that our board (like most) has McKercher above Curtin as a player but also list need. We need high quality contested ball winning mids far more than 3rd talls in defence. If we had Curtin and McKercher rated equally then Curtin being from WA would give him the preference for sure.

Unlikely we’d trade Reid for anything that doesn’t involve us getting McKercher and Curtin, whatever picks they end up being.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

AFL confirms dates for 2023 AFL Trade and Draft period

The League has confirmed the dates for the 2023 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period and the 2023 AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

“Round One of the 2023 AFL National Draft will be held on Monday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the National Draft on Tuesday, November 21. The Rookie Draft and Pre-Season Draft will take place on Wednesday, November 22.”

The suspense kills me

Good for who ever had the first pick on night two, they always get a good offer or two.

 

[ferball]

Reid’s manager and the eagles are both on record saying it’s not an issue. No doubt most kids would rather stay in their home state but one things you can be certain of is that the eagles won’t trade out pick 1 on that basis. We’ll back our culture and retention. It will only be traded if the kids that come in instead of Reid are seen to be of more benefit to the club than Reid alone. I’m pretty confident that our board (list most) has McKercher above Curtin as a player but also list need. We need high quality contested ball winning mids far more than 3rd talls in defence. If we had Curtin and McKercher rated equally then Curtin being from WA would give him the preference for sure.

Unlikely we’d trade Reid for anything that doesn’t involve us getting McKercher and Curtin, whatever picks they end up being.

There's talk the AFL will give us pick 11 but maybe force us to trade it with pick 2 to you guys for pick 1. Honestly it sounds a bit stupid to me but would you guys even accept in that situation?

 

[Psicosis]

Another day, another WCE supporter in here selling why North should just take Curtin…

 

[JGreezy]

Reid’s manager and the eagles are both on record saying it’s not an issue. No doubt most kids would rather stay in their home state but one things you can be certain of is that the eagles won’t trade out pick 1 on that basis. We’ll back our culture and retention. It will only be traded if the kids that come in instead of Reid are seen to be of more benefit to the club than Reid alone. I’m pretty confident that our board (list most) has McKercher above Curtin as a player but also list need. We need high quality contested ball winning mids far more than 3rd talls in defence. If we had Curtin and McKercher rated equally then Curtin being from WA would give him the preference for sure.

Unlikely we’d trade Reid for anything that doesn’t involve us getting McKercher and Curtin, whatever picks they end up being.

The manager and the team are both always going to say that publicly if asked a few months out from the draft. So I wouldn't read too much into that.

The eagles traded pick 2 to draft local boys at 9 and 14, last year. I don't think that its as clear cut as ignoring the local/interstate factor and 100% backing your culture. I think that every club looks at it on an individual case by case basis.

It would weigh into the overall assessment of the player. You'd assess the overall player but then weight that assessment on the basis of cultural/personality fit, including how happy they will be in that environment.

 

[tales129]

11 and 14 for 5
Take 2,3,5 to the draft would be close to my number 1

The Port pick and PP will be about pick 16 and 19 on draft night.

Curtin, McKercher, Watson

I’d go full Roughead vibes.

Mckercher, Watson, O’Sullivan

 

[czero]

Reid’s manager and the eagles are both on record saying it’s not an issue. No doubt most kids would rather stay in their home state but one thing you can be certain of is that the eagles won’t trade out pick 1 on that basis. We’ll back our culture and retention. It will only be traded if the kids that come in instead of Reid are seen to be of more benefit to the club than Reid alone. I’m pretty confident that our board (like most) has McKercher above Curtin as a player but also list need. We need high quality contested ball winning mids far more than 3rd talls in defence. If we had Curtin and McKercher rated equally then Curtin being from WA would give him the preference for sure.

Unlikely we’d trade Reid for anything that doesn’t involve us getting McKercher and Curtin, whatever picks they end up being.

If they push in the 3 year rule for top 20, you have more of a chance, but he is very much a flight risk.

I am not sure you can secure McKercher, just because its hard to know what pick that will be. McKercher is also one of those Tasmanian products that may want to request a trade when the Tasmanian team starts up, and so needs to be looked at in that lense a little. There are lot of tassy boys who will want to lead up that team, so you developing a top player only to have them leave for that just sets back your development plan no matter what you get or it. Its something I think North has to consider as well.

 

[eaglevision]

The manager and the team are both always going to say that publicly if asked a few months out from the draft. So I wouldn't read too much into that.

The eagles traded pick 2 to draft local boys at 9 and 14, last year. I don't think that its as clear cut as ignoring the local/interstate factor and 100% backing your culture. I think that every club looks at it on an individual case by case basis.

It would weigh into the overall assessment of the player. You'd assess the overall player but then weight that assessment on the basis of cultural/personality fit, including how happy they will be in that environment.

Agree with most of that. Seen the Watson interview with his d**khead friend? That’s what not wanting to come to the Eagles looks like but yes of course the (good) managers will make the right noises publicly whilst advocating for the player’s wishes behind the scenes.

Last year very different with no consensus #1 pick. For example we had Cadman rated at #1 and Ginbey at #3 so turning #2 into Ginbey and Hewett who both happen to be WA boys was like winning the lotto.

This year there is a very clear consensus #1 pick who also happens to be exactly the player we require in terms of list need. It would take an extraordinary offer to outweigh taking Reid, which to our list managers would be McKercher and Curtin in my opinion.

 

[hilly]

There's talk the AFL will give us pick 11 but maybe force us to trade it with pick 2 to you guys for pick 1. Honestly it sounds a bit stupid to me but would you guys even accept in that situation?

Surely that can't happen, what if WC says no?

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[eaglevision]

If they push in the 3 year rule for top 20, you have more of a chance, but he is very much a flight risk.

I am not sure you can secure McKercher, just because its hard to know what pick that will be. McKercher is also one of those Tasmanian products that may want to request a trade when the Tasmanian team starts up, and so needs to be looked at in that lense a little. There are lot of tassy boys who will want to lead up that team, so you developing a top player only to have them leave for that just sets back your development plan no matter what you get or it. Its something I think North has to consider as well.

The noises are that the 3 year contracts will be done and dusted for the draft which is good news for you too.

Yes agreed, until Brady and Rohan sit down for a chat bearing in mind they have a very good relationship. I’m very impressed by McKercher. If you listen to him on Gettable he literally says he doesn’t want to leave Melbourne and will be less of an issue for you guys to hang onto than us.

I think you should hang onto your picks and get McKercher, one of Curtin/Watson and O’Sullivan if he slides or Murphy. That would be a great result IMO.

 

[JGreezy]

Agree with most of that. Seen the Watson interview with his d**khead friend? That’s what not wanting to come to the Eagles looks like but yes of course the (good) managers will make the right noises publicly whilst advocating for the player’s wishes behind the scenes.

Last year very different with no consensus #1 pick. For example we had Cadman rated at #1 and Ginbey at #3 so turning #2 into Ginbey and Hewett who both happen to be WA boys was like winning the lotto.

This year there is a very clear consensus #1 pick who also happens to be exactly the player we require in terms of list need. It would take an extraordinary offer to outweigh taking Reid, which to our list managers would be McKercher and Curtin in my opinion.

The "consensus" last year was that Ginbey wasn't a top 5 pick and other clubs clearly rated him outside the top 8.

I guess this highlights two things...
1. Its entirely possible that WC weighed up the local/interstate factor, like I described, to rate Ginbey that high
2. WC could rate players differently to the consensus.

 

[eaglevision]

The "consensus" last year was that Ginbey wasn't a top 5 pick and other clubs clearly rated him outside the top 8.

I guess this highlights two things...
1. Its entirely possible that WC weighed up the local/interstate factor, like I described, to rate Ginbey that high
2. WC could rate players differently to the consensus.

I agree most clubs had Ginbey outside top 5 and the draft itself showed that. No doubt being from WA would have put him ahead of players WC viewed of similar ability.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Eagles have H. Reid as #1 on their board this year.

 

[JGreezy]

I agree most clubs had Ginbey outside top 5 and the draft itself showed that. No doubt being from WA would have put him ahead of players WC viewed of similar ability.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Eagles have H. Reid as #1 on their board this year.

Based on?

 

[Psicosis]

Agree with most of that. Seen the Watson interview with his d**khead friend? That’s what not wanting to come to the Eagles looks like but yes of course the (good) managers will make the right noises publicly whilst advocating for the player’s wishes behind the scenes.

Last year very different with no consensus #1 pick. For example we had Cadman rated at #1 and Ginbey at #3 so turning #2 into Ginbey and Hewett who both happen to be WA boys was like winning the lotto.

This year there is a very clear consensus #1 pick who also happens to be exactly the player we require in terms of list need. It would take an extraordinary offer to outweigh taking Reid, which to our list managers would be McKercher and Curtin in my opinion.

Have heard a few WCE supporters run with the “Cadman was our #1 last year” to suit their narrative.

What they neglect to factor in, is this would have been purely due to Cadman being the #1 rated prospect that was willing to leave Victoria.

No recruiter in their right mind had Cadman ahead of Wardlaw Sheezel and Tsatas on talent, last year. The reason he was (if he even was) is due to the fact the higher rated prospects were so vocal about not wanting to leave Victoria. Funnily enough, similar to the “rumours” about Reid.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Reid’s manager and the eagles are both on record saying it’s not an issue.

His manager is always going to say that publicly. Reid is however on record publicly saying he is a country boy and family means a lot to him. I would read more into that than Reid's manager saying it's not an issue.

 

[shinboner magic]

His manager is always going to say that publicly. Reid is however on record publicly saying he is a country boy and family means a lot to him. I would read more into that than Reid's manager saying it's not an issue.

Perth is like a country town

 

[ferball]

Surely that can't happen, what if WC says no?

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