List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread

[Souup]

Another huge turnover coming up I would suspect. I've counted 10 blokes that probably won't get another contract at year's end:

Aaron Hall

43

Aaron Hall

Age

33

Ht

185cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.3

5star

MG

268.3

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

268.3

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

Jed Anderson

17

Jed Anderson

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

Josh Walker
Kayne Turner

28

Kayne Turner

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.5

5star

MG

150.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.8

5star

Kyron Hayden

37

Kyron Hayden

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

113.7

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

MG

113.7

2star

D

8.8

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.4

4star

MG

139.0

3star

Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

Matt McGuinness
Patrick Walker
Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

36

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

Tom Lynch
Atu Bosenavulagi

15

Atu Bosenavulagi

Age

24

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.5

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

132.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

3star

MG

132.0

2star

D

9.5

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.5

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

132.0

3star

I'd personally consider giving Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

and Atu another year, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen.

 

[Le Grille]

Imagine the treatment JHF would get every game from every opposition team if he ran home to SA year 2 from a team in a rebuild.

I don't know how many times it needs to be pointed out that part of why he went pick 1 was his character. He was also desperate to go pick 1, normally (unless you're heading to Footscray) that is to the worst team in the league.

I actually think as professionals they would understand it,
If we rely on the what would people say if he went home ? As a tactic to retain him, we are ****ed…..welll more ****ed.

We need to prove to him we are fair dinkum just as much as he has to prove it to us.

 

[Le Grille]

I’d seriously consider putting Jy up

 

[Souup]

We are one Larkey injury away from playing a 1 gamer as our #1 forward.

We are one McKay injury from playing a bloke who's been delisted twice as our chief KPD.

They have absolutely torched our list. We turfed out experienced, key players, to the point they left on bad terms after years of great service, and didn't replace them with a remotely like for like replacement.

It seems we're building our list from the inside out (midfield first, then work out). I'm personally a believer in the total opposite, but both can work if done properly.

This will naturally mean our list will look much stronger in the midfield than anywhere else, and that make sense when you watch on matchday, where we are often matching it or winning it at stoppages, and then looking lost after that.

The puzzling thing is how you enter a year as skinny at the key defender position as we have.

 

[Flawed Genius]

I'd personally consider giving Lachie Young another year, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen.

I don't think this is a very good idea

 

[Le Grille]

I don't think this is a very good idea

Again

He is not the reason why we are in the shit.

He is limited but a mile down the list of important problems.

Some sacred cows getting a pass here

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I actually think as professionals they would understand it,
If we rely on the what would people say if he went home ? As a tactic to retain him, we are f’ed…..welll more f’ed.

We need to prove to him we are fair dinkum just as much as he has to prove it to us.

We wouldn't need to rely on it, although needless to say he'd cop it for life. I never mentioned it as a tactic, just as an aside.

This kid has been sold on his character. We don't need to prove anything to him this early in a rebuild, he's a kid that plays football for a lot of money. He will get a lot more money. We passed on two trades that would be good enough to pick up a top 5 player in the league so I think we've proven we're fair dinkum on where we see him. He's been very good but is also prone to some simple errors himself (wandering into restricted areas for example) but that's fine, he's a kid in a team with a lot of guys that need development. The only reason people worry is because he's from SA but those clubs aren't necessarily lures either.

 

[scottywiper]

It seems we're building our list from the inside out (midfield first, then work out). I'm personally a believer in the total opposite, but both can work if done properly.

This will naturally mean our list will look much stronger in the midfield than anywhere else, and that make sense when you watch on matchday, where we are often matching it or winning it at stoppages, and then looking lost after that.

The puzzling thing is how you enter a year as skinny at the key defender position as we have.

It's called bad list management. Blind Freddy could see this issue coming. So how do those in charge ignore it???

 

[Souup]

I don't think this is a very good idea

Yeah I understand the hate he cops but I personally feel he'd be a solid piece in a competent side.

It's hard for anyone to look consistently good when part of a team as devoid of confidence as ours. I think he's the type of player that would rise with the collective.

It's no surprise players like Will Fordham, Will Walker and Tom Murphy look like some handy players when in a competent side - the same blokes were whipping boys on here not long ago.

Again, I understand that some would prefer he never pull on a North guernsey after this year but I see enough in him to give him another year.

 

[Heaps of fun]

North should genuinely consider trading their first round pick this year (assuming it's top 5~) for an established player.

I said it last year before we solidified the #1 pick and that meant JHF, but I would love NMFC to make a genuine push to bring Harry McKay over to North from Carlton to play with his twin Ben.

Harry up forward as our #1 KPF.
Ben down back as our #1 KPD.

Stuff dreams are made of.

 

[Swallow_Wood]

Another huge turnover coming up I would suspect. I've counted 10 blokes that probably won't get another contract at year's end:

Aaron Hall
Jed Anderson
Josh Walker
Kayne Turner
Kyron Hayden
Lachie Young
Matt McGuinness
Patrick Walker
Todd Goldstein
Tom Lynch
Atu Bosenavulagi

I'd personally consider giving Lachie Young and Atu another year, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Another huge turnover coming up I would suspect. I've counted 10 blokes that probably won't get another contract at year's end:

Aaron Hall
Jed Anderson
Josh Walker
Kayne Turner
Kyron Hayden
Lachie Young
Matt McGuinness
Patrick Walker
Todd Goldstein
Tom Lynch
Atu Bosenavulagi

I'd personally consider giving Lachie Young and Atu another year, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen.

We need to bring in some genuine mature talent from either other clubs or the state leagues. If we don't we're not gonna be out of the bottom four for another two years.

 

[Le Grille]

We wouldn't need to rely on it, although needless to say he'd cop it for life. I never mentioned it as a tactic, just as an aside.

This kid has been sold on his character. We don't need to prove anything to him this early in a rebuild, he's a kid that plays football for a lot of money. He will get a lot more money. We passed on two trades that would be good enough to pick up a top 5 player in the league so I think we've proven we're fair dinkum on where we see him. He's been very good but is also prone to some simple errors himself (wandering into restricted areas for example) but that's fine, he's a kid in a team with a lot of guys that need development. The only reason people worry is because he's from SA but those clubs aren't necessarily lures either.

We are fair dinkum on where we see him but we need to prove we are fair dinkum we will give him the opportunity for flags and medals

 

[The Filth Wizard]

We are fair dinkum on where we see him but we need to prove we are fair dinkum we will give him the opportunity for flags and medals

They need to prove to us they're fair dinkum for flags and medals. That they are operational suggests they are.

 

[archereleven]

It seems we're building our list from the inside out (midfield first, then work out). I'm personally a believer in the total opposite, but both can work if done properly.

This will naturally mean our list will look much stronger in the midfield than anywhere else, and that make sense when you watch on matchday, where we are often matching it or winning it at stoppages, and then looking lost after that.

The puzzling thing is how you enter a year as skinny at the key defender position as we have.

I'm a definite believer in building your KPP first. They take a shit load longer to come on and are much harder to find outside the top 10.

Mids can come from anywhere and any pick and still be serviceable or better.

The Phillips pick is the most puzzling so far imo, we could of went a McDonald/Powell combo as KPF is a massive need just behind KPD but instead we double down.

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[wolvesRoos]

The puzzling thing is how you enter a year as skinny at the key defender position as we have.

Maybe not excepting our best one to jump ship

 

[Flawed Genius]

Again

He is not the reason why we are in the shit.

He is limited but a mile down the list of important problems.

Some sacred cows getting a pass here

Far be it from me to miss out on sacred cows mate. There's many many reasons we are losing games by heaps and Simpkin, Goldstein, Larkey etc are all playing their role in that

Young is much easily replaced than that lot however

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

We need to bring in some genuine mature talent from either other clubs or the state leagues. If we don't we're not gonna be out of the bottom four for another two years.

The rise of clubs like Brisbane (and Melbourne) has as much to do with savvy, targeted and fair trading as it has to do with high draft picks.

The thing is that these clubs were willing to still play young talent while bringing in solid-good-great trade pickups over numerous years.

 

[Heaps of fun]

The rise of clubs like Brisbane (and Melbourne) has as much to do with savvy, targeted and fair trading as it has to do with high draft picks.

The thing is that these clubs were willing to still play young talent while bringing in solid-good-great trade pickups over numerous years.

Would be nice if Jayden Short could be our Michael Hibberd but we're dreaming if he wants to come to us.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Maybe not excepting our best one to jump ship

Tarrant looks absolutely cooked.

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

Maybe not excepting our best one to jump ship

Still had time to seek coverage via either another trade, free agents, the draft, rookie draft and now upcoming mid season draft?




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[Le Grille]

Far be it from me to miss out on sacred cows mate. There's many many reasons we are losing games by heaps and Simpkin, Goldstein, Larkey etc are all playing their role in that

Young is much easily replaced than that lot however

Just making sure

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

From what I’ve been told we actually got offered the Brodie deal first and we didn’t entertain it. We wanted McPherson and he didn’t want to leave GC. So it all fell through. Freo had convince Brodie that he would get game time as his priority was to get back to Vic. Freo ended up giving him a good deal and the rest is history.

So instead of acquiring an inside mid in Brodie that fits our list profile, we obtain Greenwood who has 2 seasons in him?






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[archereleven]

So instead of acquiring an inside mid in Brodie that fits our list profile, we obtain Greenwood who has 2 seasons in him?






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Luff only looked at supercoach scores not age profiles...

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[Shinboner1]

So many spuds on the team

Another huge turnover coming up I would suspect. I've counted 10 blokes that probably won't get another contract at year's end:

Aaron Hall
Jed Anderson
Josh Walker
Kayne Turner
Kyron Hayden
Lachie Young
Matt McGuinness
Patrick Walker
Todd Goldstein
Tom Lynch
Atu Bosenavulagi

I'd personally consider giving Lachie Young and Atu another year, but wouldn't be surprised if that didn't happen.

Young will probably get 2 years but that's it.
Purge the state leagues for good mature talent and we'll be set. Got enough kids barring the 1-2 we gotta get with an early pick.