Analysis 2021 trade thread

[BangyBangy]

Is that just a typo? If you replaced the one Gunston reference with Ceglar than it makes sense. If Hawks were footing most of bill would definitely jump on Ceglar vs our other ruck targets.

Depends if Ceglar want's to move interstate for what would be the same money. Will be number one ruck at the Bulldogs, won't be at the Lions. He'll share the role with Big O.

I was watching the fox trading show last night. John Ralph was talking in general about how clubs are tight & it's hard to get trades done this year, said quite emphatically that the Lions are desperate to get an experienced player through the door but only have $150,000 to play with (I'd be staggered if he actually knows the cap space we have).

That led Dicko to say that he'd love to see Gunston at the Lions thinks he'd be great fit alongside Daniher.

Wondering if it all has started from that? Haven't seen any other mention of us being into Gunstan.

I like Gunsten and think he may well make us a better team, but don't see extra options up forward really being a strong need for us.

Risk mitigation is probably a greater need and I doubt Gunstin can play ruck full time if Big O goes down.

 

[Dalions]

I wonder if we are looking at Gunston as a replacement for Birchall down back?
He has played a bit down back before. And is a good kick.
But would prefer a backup ruck.

 

[dlanod]

Moving to the rookie list really is a have your cake and eat it (thought what the fu** else do you with cake?) situation. We don't think you're good enough to be on the senior list but not quite ready to let you go.

List of guys that have solidified significant careers after being dropped to rookie list has got to be tiny.

Specifically, "not quite ready to let you go" generally actually means "you're not out of contract yet and AFL clubs hate paying out contracts".

 

[pulpdriver]

Specifically, "not quite ready to let you go" generally actually means "you're not out of contract yet and AFL clubs hate paying out contracts".

Yeah, the former just sounds so much more pleasant and optimistic.

 

[ZoBlitz]

And the reality is that very few players come back from being moved to the rookie list.

 

[pulpdriver]

And the reality is that very few players come back from being moved to the rookie list.

I did say that list is likely tiny. I'm just sentimental and love the idea of a comeback story. Rookie list legit is just long shots and last chances though.

 

[Harris Specter]

Fremantle bending Suns over once again. How on earth is this even remotely fair?

FREMANTLE has secured former No.9 pick Will Brodie and a swag of picks from Gold Coast.

As revealed by AFL.com.au on Wednesday, the Dockers have received Brodie, a second-round pick (currently No.19) and two fourth-round picks (currently No.61 and No.69), while the Suns get a future second-round selection and a future fourth-round selection.

The deal will also see the Dockers absorb the midfielder's 2022 contract.

 

[pulpdriver]

Rank the ruck targets

For me:

1) Fort, our primary need is a back up target but as shown in the VFL this year he can play forward. Could displace Fullarton as our KF/R
2) Casboult, A genuinely superb contested marking forward, however clearly on his last legs. Not so bad though. We ideally only need 10-15 games before he's displaced, 1 year on the list could be all we need
3) Cox, I haven't seen many games as dominant as that Tigers final. He was unbelievable, though it's obviously been proven to be an outlier rather than the breakout game everyone expected at the time. He's an okay ruck due to height and an above average forward. We'll also have to bring him in for a minimum of two years without any promise of a senior spot. Not worth it with our list and needs imo.

 

[jackess]

Fremantle bending Suns over once again. How on earth is this even remotely fair?

Suns don't have to pay half a mil next year for a state level footballer

 

[mpal6]

Fremantle bending Suns over once again. How on earth is this even remotely fair?

Suns are building future picks up nicely so we can trade with them next year for points. Future 2nd/3rd/4th from Collingwood picks and future 2nd and 4th from Fremantle. Good job Suns ! We'll be in touch next year !

 

[pulpdriver]

Fremantle bending Suns over once again. How on earth is this even remotely fair?

Brodie + 19 for 61 + 69 and a future 2nd + 4th round?

****ing Hell, Suns.

 

[Nuggo]

Fremantle bending Suns over once again. How on earth is this even remotely fair?

Lets face it both the Suns and Freo are shit and won't benefit from it in the long run. Let them play games together. It is the only win they will have.

 

[irish]

anyone hearing chatter about Battle from the saints link to us ?

 

[BRAB]

Suns are a joke of a football club to be honest.

Can't manage a salary cap so have to gift their priority pick to Fremantle.

 

[blueiris]

Rank the ruck targets

For me:

1) Fort, our primary need is a back up target but as shown in the VFL this year he can play forward. Could displace Fullarton as our KF/R
2) Casboult, A genuinely superb contested marking forward, however clearly on his last legs. Not so bad though. We ideally only need 10-15 games before he's displaced, 1 year on the list could be all we need
3) Cox, I haven't seen many games as dominant as that Tigers final. He was unbelievable, though it's obviously been proven to be an outlier rather than the breakout game everyone expected at the time. He's an okay ruck due to height and an above average forward. We'll also have to bring him in for a minimum of two years without any promise of a senior spot. Not worth it with our list and needs imo.

Fort isn’t a KF he’s a ruck only so would be on the bench while Big O is in the ruck

Cox brings forward craft and Ruck work Rendell continues to push him towards Us as a main ruckman that can work well with Oscar
Casboult looks done bad knee injury according to Blues supporters

 

[mpal6]

Fort isn’t a KF he’s a ruck only so would be on the bench while Big O is in the ruck

Cox brings forward craft and Ruck work Rendell continues to push him towards Us as a main ruckman that can work well with Oscar
Casboult looks done bad knee injury according to Blues supporters

- Darcy Fort

vfl.aflmstats.com

Looking at his stats, he's taken 8 marks twice and 5 marks twice as well.

Darcy Fort | AFL

Follow Darcy Fort's progress through AFL

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Player profile does say he kicked 3 in AFL debut and scored 23 goals in 13 games - highest being 6 against Port Melbourne.

Looks like he's no mug as a forward. We could park him in the forward line and keep switching with Big O.

 

[mattsmob]

anyone hearing chatter about Battle from the saints link to us ?

Haven’t heard it myself but would be a really interesting get if it were possible, definitely has the talent and versatility that would suit us.

 

[blueiris]

anyone hearing chatter about Battle from the saints link to us ?

Battle is a defender right if our defence is at full strength where does he fit?

 

[Elixuh]

Suns are a joke of a football club to be honest.

Can't manage a salary cap so have to gift their priority pick to Fremantle.

They're in the same spiral we were in where they have to overpay to keep players and when someone nominates to come home ala Wheller they have to pay an extraordinary price that no other club in an equivalent position would pay.

 

[jackess]

Battle is a defender right if our defence is at full strength where does he fit?

Could be a Birchall replacement. Nice kick IIRC

 

[blueiris]

Could be a Birchall replacement. Nice kick IIRC

Pretty sure Fages has promised that spot to Coleman you’d think Answerth Sharp and Lester would be looked at as well

 

[jackess]

Pretty sure Fages has promised that spot to Coleman

Both played late last year; Andrews, Adams, Gardiner, Starcevich, Rich, Coleman and Birchalls replacement

 

[Nuggo]

Pretty sure Fages has promised that spot to Coleman you’d think Answerth Sharp and Lester would be looked at as well

I don't think Fages would promise any spot to anybody. Would be surprised if he did.

 

[blueiris]

I don't think Fages would promise any spot to anybody. Would be surprised if he did.

He mentioned Coleman pacifically as Birchall replacement on B&F night after Birchall’s retirement speech

 

[harvester]

Suns are a joke of a football club to be honest.

Can't manage a salary cap so have to gift their priority pick to Fremantle.

Well I guess if it helps them keep King next year, it will be a win