List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part III

[SaintRick88]

I can't find this anywhere but has anyone put together an analysis of our current list with uncontracted players, the addition of 2 draft picks, 1 free agent and an assumption of 38 players on the list next year? Would be curious how this would be shaping up for us.

 

[bergholt]

I can't find this anywhere but has anyone put together an analysis of our current list with uncontracted players, the addition of 2 draft picks, 1 free agent and an assumption of 38 players on the list next year? Would be curious how this would be shaping up for us.

This year we had 40 players, 4 rookies, 1 class B rookie.

So far we've cut 3 senior listed players, 3 rookies; and added 1 senior listed player.

Which leaves us with 38 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

Assuming we need to take 2 draft picks then that's 40 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

And it seems like all of those are going to be counted in the 38 except the class B rookie?

Which means at a minimum 3 more players have to go out, I guess.

 

[Roddy Grant]

Why do so many think the bombers will chase billings ? If he wants to go there i will drive him

His family are rusted on Bombers coterie members, so it was always assumed it might happen. Given where the Bombers are at right now and so many leaving I think they will have loads of cap space and should he be interested in going there they could put an offer in front of him we might have trouble matching.

 

[kernelT]

This year we had 40 players, 4 rookies, 1 class B rookie.

So far we've cut 3 senior listed players, 3 rookies; and added 1 senior listed player.

Which leaves us with 38 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

Assuming we need to take 2 draft picks then that's 40 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

And it seems like all of those are going to be counted in the 38 except the class B rookie?

Which means at a minimum 3 more players have to go out, I guess.

Still half a dozen or so OOC I think...

If we punt Carlisle we’ll need to replace him and you’d expect Higgins to eventuate.

 

[scotteydog]

How good is a fit midfield looking next year.

Centre Square: Ryder, Crouch, Steele, Gresham
Wings: Jones and Hill
Rotating through the above: Marshall, Hannebery, Ross, Billings, Higgins (maybe), Sinclair, Dunstan

Gone from a sh*t midfield to one of the best in the AFL.

Add Clark & Treloar, delete Dunstan & Ross, bloody hell, would be in heaven.

 

[Premium]

Essendon happy to walk Caldwell into PSD.
Carlton happy to walk Saad into PSD.
Another drawn out Trade Period coming up

Looks like we still might get Caldwell if the Bombers are not willing to give a good draft pick for him.

 

[St Neil]

Essendon happy to walk Caldwell into PSD.
Carlton happy to walk Saad into PSD.
Another drawn out Trade Period coming up

Essendon continues to be the common dominator during each trade period.

Bulldogs have also shut down discussions with Dodoro, they don’t want to have anything to do with him even though Dunkley’s manager (Liam Pickering) has just said that Dunkley has requested a trade.

Dodoro demands pick 7 from Carlton for Saad but won’t pay the same price for Caldwell.

It’s Groundhog Day. Again.

 

[austinnn]

Spanner for the dogs.... Essendon can’t trade a future pick if they move one out for Caldwell I believe.

dogs have fu** all interest in first rounders this year.

you probably need another 2 clubs to get involved.

I wonder if this is the reason Dorodo is threatening to "walk Caldwell to the PSD"

Could we help GWS out here I wonder? I suppose that ship has sailed and our offer would not be as big as the Bombers one, but if Jye could reconsider, I wonder if we'd intervene.

 

[John2010362340]

Being a keen observer and the language the media use and our Club use. I will be extremely surprised if Treloar isn't at STFC next year.

 

[Keg still on legs]

Bit late to it but my take on Lethers talking down our chances of Treloar was a very calculated statement to ensure we don't sound desperate to free up funds to land him.

If other clubs believe we are super keen on him but need $ to get it done they'll offer well unders for our players knowing we would likely accept it.

A clever devil is Lethers

 

[Armoooo]

I wonder if this is the reason Dorodo is threatening to "walk Caldwell to the PSD"

Could we help GWS out here I wonder? I suppose that ship has sailed and our offer would not be as big as the Bombers one, but if Jye could reconsider, I wonder if we'd intervene.

**** it, let's get Treloar and Caldwell. If there's time, we'll probably snag Dunkley too because why not.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Add Clark & Treloar, delete Dunstan & Ross, bloody hell, would be in heaven.

I forgot Clark too. Plus Bytel and Byrnes. We have a deep midfield.

 

[BrutThough]

With Dunkley officially requesting a trade, I think Treloar will end up at the Dogs as his replacement.

 

[austinnn]

Greetings, I come in peace.
We've been having a discussion over on our board about a potential trade for Higgins, and I'm not sure if my rose tinted glasses are impairing my vision on this one, but let me know what you think.

Richmond gives: Higgins and Pick 21 (was 19)
St Kilda gives: Pick 17 (was 15)

The consensus on our board that it wasn't fair for us, for only a four spot upgrade. I believe its fair because those four spots could be crucial depending on who is available.

Don't flame me please lol

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I would bite your hand off for that deal but our problem is we actually need to use a first round pick this draft.

So, on the condition we could then sell one of our players and that pick for another first rounder, then yes please.

But I don't see Richmond doing that anyway, unless I read it wrong.


Edit: I now see that this question has already been answered in much the same way by a dozen different posters, my apologies for the late echo.

If it is a first round DP then no worries at all, but again I think this year's draft being a bit more of a blind run, those four pick spaces are not really valuable enough to Tigers to make this a deal they would ever consider.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Well I don't know about you, but there's no way I'd like to stay at a club where they are quite obviously and publically trying to get rid of you.

GT and Stephen Milne

Stephen Milne

Age

44

Ht

176cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

2.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.4

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.4

5star

come to mind

 

[Ducky Tie]

With Dunkley officially requesting a trade, I think Treloar will end up at the Dogs as his replacement.

It seems like the wrong fit to me. They had too many genuine mids this year. One of Dunkley’s issues is that he isn’t getting enough mid time. Can’t see the dogs wanting to move any of Bont, Macrae, Libba or Smith out of there.

 

[kernelT]

With Dunkley officially requesting a trade, I think Treloar will end up at the Dogs as his replacement.

Going to be hard for anyone to get deals done if they are waiting on a Dodoro trade to drop first... Essendon and Fremantle should be made to finish up their trades a day earlier than the other 16 clubs.

 

[SaintRick88]

This year we had 40 players, 4 rookies, 1 class B rookie.

So far we've cut 3 senior listed players, 3 rookies; and added 1 senior listed player.

Which leaves us with 38 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

Assuming we need to take 2 draft picks then that's 40 senior listed players, 1 rookie, 1 class B rookie.

And it seems like all of those are going to be counted in the 38 except the class B rookie?

Which means at a minimum 3 more players have to go out, I guess.

4 to go if we add McKernan. 5 if we add Higgins (assuming Tigers will want a pick for him).

Made up of the following lists.

Uncontracted:

Sam Alabakis
Jake Carlisle
Oscar Clavarino
Nick Hind

19

Nick Hind

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.9

4star

MG

117.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

117.0

2star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

Jonathon Marsh

43

Jonathon Marsh

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.4

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.5

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.0

4star

MG

140.0

2star

D

10.2

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

138.2

3star

Matthew Parker

37

Matthew Parker

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

0.0

1star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

Ed Phillips
Shane Savage

5

Shane Savage

Age

33

Ht

187cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

393.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

Contracted but being discussed:

Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Jimmy Webster

29

Jimmy Webster

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

 

[CursingFijian]

Don't think it's been confirmed by the AFL yet, however it seems the clubs are basing their planning around 38

That means there may be some talent falling off lists this year, probably also means that the number of picks in this years draft is at a minimum, and therefore next years draft will have some depth to it.

 

[D2D3]

With Dunkley officially requesting a trade, I think Treloar will end up at the Dogs as his replacement.

Not sure Trealor is a good fit for the dogs even so. They still have a stacked midfield even without Dunkley.

 

[Mowman]

Bit late to it but my take on Lethers talking down our chances of Treloar was a very calculated statement to ensure we don't sound desperate to free up funds to land him.

If other clubs believe we are super keen on him but need $ to get it done they'll offer well unders for our players knowing we would likely accept it.

A clever devil is Lethers

He speaks so well and plays everyone on the break

 

[Highlander35]

Doggies should be asking for 2 future firsts for Dunkley IMO. At 23, contracted, and badass they CAN afford to play some hardball

 

[stfan]

Bing aint coming for years and even if he did come back to Victoria there is no guarantee its to us. they may choose to keep their options open and ensure he goes to another club.

The way I look at it:

- Get Treloar and Higgins now in addition to Crouch and we have a list good enough to be in contention in 2021 and 2022 (Before Ryder and Carlisle both get past it). Plus Treloar will be cheaper than he normally will have, SO SEIZE THE DAY
- Whereas BKing will have to be traded for and the deal may never happen. Besides he is contracted till 2022, and so potentially could be traded for with out 2022 and 2023 first rounders.
- Getting Treloar now does not have to not mean getting BKing to play in 2023+ (Indeed maybe he slots in for Ryder). But even if it meant not getting him gaining Treloar makes a lot of sense.

 

[HarryZLA]

Doggies should be asking for 2 future firsts for Dunkley IMO. At 23, contracted, and badass they CAN afford to play some hardball

Problem is they lose leverage the longer this goes on, years wise. If they CAN'T get 2 future firsts this year for him, you can guarantee they wont get near that value this time next year.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Bit late to it but my take on Lethers talking down our chances of Treloar was a very calculated statement to ensure we don't sound desperate to free up funds to land him.

If other clubs believe we are super keen on him but need $ to get it done they'll offer well unders for our players knowing we would likely accept it.

A clever devil is Lethers