List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 2

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Bentleigh have never been suburb of the year. Bentleigh doesn't have the banger. Bentleigh doesn't have Bevo and Hardwick living 200 metres from each other. Bentleigh isn't east.
East Bentleigh is the best part of Melbourne..
Ian Stewart lived in our street many years ago..
Bevo was in the next street in Pasadena Cres..
 

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before we get rid of Dunstan , lets see how he goes the rest of the year - he is better than what he has been playing .
Honestly I would only trade him if it would get us Lever only. Otherwise give him few more chances cause he could turn into Seb Ross in few seasons
 
Trealor was a gun when he was traded to Collingwood, in the landscape at that time I think he was if anything bigger than Kelly.

They have matured as a team and have more depth now than they had at that time.

Collingwood overpaid, two first rounders with a second back is not the new standard.

If we are lucky enough to win the chase for Kelly his trade price will depend on several factors not the least of which will be pick numbers.

It is possible that the Hawks pick will be pick 3-5. A pick in that range with some change for academy players is plenty for any out of contract player.

I know he was pick two and has lived up to his pick, stiff for GWS you can't keep them all paying mates rates. When they offer Kelly one million a year to stay, then they can ask for two first rounders.

Out of contract players generally get to their club of choice, I trust ameet not to overpay.
 
The Kelly one sounds about right.
But Lever is worth a top 10 pick on his own easily.
Dunstan + our 2017 first rounder is more realistic.
Think you're right on the Lever trade. However, I would push hard for crows to send their 2ND round pick to us (should be around 34-40) range.
 
The Norff boys on their site are going to be pretty upset if we happen to get Kelly . They seem to think that they have him signed , sealed and delivered , along with Martin by the sounds of it. They get real nasty if a Saints person suggests otherwise, lol.

And apparently it takes less than 20 minutes to get from Elwood to Arden st in peak hour traffic . And a Saints fan made up that Steele and Kelly are friends . And they get very angry every time a reporter says that the Saints are leading the charge for Kelly . Apparently one Norff fans whole family supports the Saints apart from him but none of them knew who Kelly was last season . I think that's more a reflection of his family rather than Saints supporters.

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The Norff boys on their site are going to be pretty upset if we happen to get Kelly . They seem to think that they have him signed , sealed and delivered , along with Martin by the sounds of it. They get real nasty if a Saints person suggests otherwise, lol.


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They are very insecure, even coming on to this board to tell us Kelly for norf cause.....wait for it.....

His dad played for norfy.
 
Trade Hickey + change for a late first.
Trade the late first + Dunstan for Lever.
Trade Hawks first + 2018 St Kilda first for Kelly.
Buy a FA if possible (Fyfe or Rockliff).
Draft best available mid with our 2017 First.

Collectively a slim chance of happening, individually each might be plausible.
 
If we get 2 elite players in who cares.
Because you still need to draft three players in the draft, thereby weakening your list. You need a presence in the draft, even if it is only a second round pick like we had last year. Look at how last years draft impacted Hawks and Dees. They drafted some horrible players!
 
No I don't think he was. He was highly regarded and showed a lot of potential, but Kelly is on his way to AA selection and even a chance for the Brownlow. As we speak he is GWS' best midfielder.

Treloar was considered their best mid 2 years ago (at worst on par with Shiel).

The 2 x 1st for Kelly & something back will be in the right ballpark. You've got to remember that 2nd round picks to the Giants are like 5th round picks to the rest of the clubs. They've got picks falling out of their pockets as the walk along the streets of Blacktown so throwing one back our way isn't a big deal to them.

Their need for a ruckman with Mummy getting on, Downie retired and Lobb a chance to head west is a factor we could use to our advantage.

If the Hawks continue their spiral down & we give up a top 3 pick (Kelly's draft value) plus Hickey (to offset his improvement & their investment in him) it would be pretty close to the mark IMO. They're contending right now and another 1st round pick will be strengthening their NEAFL team not the one that matters.

Pick 3 and Hickey for Kelly
Fyfe- free agent
Dunstan & our 2018 1st pick for Lever
Take our 1st pick to the draft.
 
Can't have enough good leadership around the club.. lukey was touted as our next captain, too many see current form and thats it. I'm backing him in to improve and become that contested bull we need

I dont reckon lever (has it been confirmed) is on our radar so I'm keeping luke...
 
Treloar was considered their best mid 2 years ago (at worst on par with Shiel).

The 2 x 1st for Kelly & something back will be in the right ballpark. You've got to remember that 2nd round picks to the Giants are like 5th round picks to the rest of the clubs. They've got picks falling out of their pockets as the walk along the streets of Blacktown so throwing one back our way isn't a big deal to them.

Their need for a ruckman with Mummy getting on, Downie retired and Lobb a chance to head west is a factor we could use to our advantage.

If the Hawks continue their spiral down & we give up a top 3 pick (Kelly's draft value) plus Hickey (to offset his improvement & their investment in him) it would be pretty close to the mark IMO. They're contending right now and another 1st round pick will be strengthening their NEAFL team not the one that matters.

Pick 3 and Hickey for Kelly
Fyfe- free agent
Dunstan & our 2018 1st pick for Lever
Take our 1st pick to the draft.

I like it except fyfe as a FA is a pipedream.
Freo will match.
 
Because you still need to draft three players in the draft, thereby weakening your list. You need a presence in the draft, even if it is only a second round pick like we had last year. Look at how last years draft impacted Hawks and Dees. They drafted some horrible players!
I think everyone conveniently forgets this. At the end of the day you have to select players in the draft. No point trading away all our picks and getting Mitchell Lewis with 88 like the Hawks...
 
I think the gap is quite big despite the stats. Kelly is a far better player now than Treloar despite being two years younger.

Yes but that's because treloar has gone backwards since leaving gws.
Get in a time machine and compare how treloar looked 2 years ago against how kelly looks now.
Kelly still looks better, but not by much.
 
because they request a trade?
McCarthy requested a trade and you know what the Giants did? Held onto him cos the price wasn't right. They won't just give away players for shits and gigs and they won't easily let go of 2 of the best players on their exceptionally talented list.
 
I feel like this post season there will be a lot of stkilda player movement.
I think we'll land 1 huge player either fyfe/kelly.
I think Roo n Joey will be offered small contracts but will sign for 1 more.
There will be a few delistings/trades this year.
Hickey and Dunstan will be traded.
Coghlan, Pierce, Holmes delisted.
1 or 2 of Wright, Minch, Lonie will go.
Dempster retired.
NOK and Marshall upgraded.
7 out with 2 upgrades. Leaves 5 spots.
2 will get traded in. 1 big name and 1 lesser name.
Leaving 3 draft picks and 2 rookies.
 
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