Will give a more detailed response when I have time mate. You have gone excessively hard at Austin which I do take issue with. Less so Arli with Agresta with a longer tenure.
Serious question, we struggled to attract free agents for a very long time before grabbing Williams and Hewett. I was a...
...had between drafting Sam Walsh (1st in 2018) and Ollie Hollands (11th in 2022) are:
Brodie Kemp, 17 in 2019
Sam Philp, 20 in 2019
CoreyDurdin, 37 in 2020
Jack Carroll, 41 in 2020
Jesse Motlop, 27 in 2021
WITHOUT making the finals once.
All of this before Voss even got to the club.
You...
...games and missed finals by 0.06%, in the last game of the year by 1pt.
Our bottom players in that game were:
Jack Newnes
Liam Stocker
CoreyDurdin
Zac Fisher
Caleb Marchbank
Matt Owies
Lochie O'brien
Lewis Young.
After 2 years of list development, last night, our bottom players were...
...or only just available with limited preparation (Fantasia, B Camporeale, Boyd just came back this week, Pitt, O'Keefe, E Hollands, CoreyDurdin, Cincotta, Matt Carroll, Billy wilson).
Add to that a hit to the depth from last year with no Owies or Kennedy. (reasons for that, may all work out...
The Hawks start their home campaign by hosting North Melbourne at Box Hill City Oval tomorrow. The Hawks withstood a challenge from Carlton to record their first win of the season in round 1, while North Melbourne split the points in a draw with Casey Demons at Casey Fields.
The Demons jumped...
Some familiar names there ... Cal Porter, Darcy MacPherson, Brayden Crossley, Dom Brew.
Plus a few who were once touted as good AFL prospects ... Bytel, Hately, Woodcock
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1741391/dogs-duo-in-vfl-state-team-squad-edge-named-assistant-coach
The Victorian Football League (VFL) has today announced the Smithy’s VFL State Team squad ahead of the clash with the SANFL’s West End State Team during Gather Round.
Footscray...
...end, we gave up and used our final two list spots on 2 small forwards.
Speaking of small forwards, we have 2 who are genuinely quick. CoreyDurdin and Will White. Pick in the 40s and a freebie. We have a creative small forward who lacks a yard in Motlop, a makeshift small/medium forward...
Another thing.
Let's take Collingwood and McCreery as an example. i.e. "Why did we draft Durdin, when we could have had McCreery. Pies are so much better at the draft than we are!" (Not your words, but the sort of comments from some that reflect the same sentiment)
Well, let's have a...
Added total players selected after the Carlton choice for reference.
If anything, you're proving b4f's point - very few players of value available after those picks. Hard to say any of the picks we've made have been obvious errors.
Hindsight drafting is a trap.
2020 - after C Durdin
Beau Mcreery
Eddie Ford
2021- After Motlop
Paul Curtis
Jake Soligio
Sam Banks?
2022- after Binns
Toby Mcmullin
Harvey Gallagher
Corey Wagner
There is 7-8 players on this list that i hope are moved on to make room for an acquisition this year.
There’s 2-3 on this list who i think should be moved on this year to make room for an acquisition this year.
Austin has barely landed 1 pick outside top 20. Some of those are in their 4th season and you are arguing, they require more time? A good recruiter would nail 3 of those picks.
Great post.
And one that those advocating for a clean-out at the end of the year would do well to bear in mind. Given once more we have slim pickings at the draft table this year, if we do cut more than the average 6-8 players, we'll have to fill the spots with more draft picks in the low...
...duration an/or dollars.
2026
2. Lachie Cowan
4. Ollie Hollands
6. Zac Williams
8. Lachie Fogarty
16. Ben Camporeale?
18. Sam Walsh
19. CoreyDurdin
20. Elijah Hollands
21. Lucas Camporeale?
22. Harry O'Farrell?
25. Jaxon Binns
28. Harry Charleson (Rookie)?
33. Lewis Young
36. Cooper Lord -...
Thanks for this!
There is never a silver bullet or one person/department that you can point a figure at.
As you mentioned there's things he could potentially have done differently but that doesn't mean that it guarantees a success.
Who's to say McCreery becomes the player he is at Carlton...
I think the biggest issue is Austin's build of our list as a whole rather than his eye for talent. Acres, Hewett, Cerra, Hollands etc have been quality players for us but ultimately have led to an imbalanced list. I think he's began correcting that the last couple of off seasons but he hasn't...
Yeah I pointed this out in the list management thread...
Easy to criticise but they couldn't come up with better alternatives... apparently we'd be a better side with Richards and Gallagher instead of Binns and Lemmey :rolleyes:
The real criticism should fall on SOS for his failure at...
...argument that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
These are the players he's chosen (ignoring last season's draft as way too early to tell):
CoreyDurdin (37)
Jack Carroll (41)
Jesse Motlop (27)
Ollie Hollands (11)
Lachie Cowan (30)
Jaxon Binns (32)
Harry Lemmey (47)
Ashton Moir (29)
Too early...
...Test
-Recovering after being a late out on the day of the game in Round 2
Matt Carroll (ankle)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
CoreyDurdin (ankle)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
Hudson O’Keeffe (hamstring)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
Rob Monahan (groin)
-Full training...
...Test
-Recovering after being a late out on the day of the game in Round 2
Matt Carroll (ankle)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
CoreyDurdin (ankle)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
Hudson O’Keeffe (hamstring)
-Full training
-Availability: Test
Rob Monahan (groin)
-Full training...
LAYER
INJURY
ESTIMATED RETURN
Matt Carroll
Ankle
Test
Alex Cincotta
Hip
TBC
Matt Duffy
Knee
2-3 weeks
CoreyDurdin
Ankle
1 week
Orazio Fantasia
Calf
3-4 weeks
Elijah Hollands
Personal reasons
Indefinite
Rob Monahan
Groin
1 week
Nic Newman
Knee
Indefinite
Harry O'Farrell...
...- Delist
Jesse Motlop - 3rd Rounder (Last night was a slight improvement)
Brodie Kemp - 2nd/3rd Rounder
Zac Williams - 3rd Rounder/Delist
Sam Docherty - Retire
Orazio Fantasia - Delist
Nick Haynes - Delist
Lewis Young - Delist
Francis Evans - Delist
CoreyDurdin - Hopefully can get healthy soon
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