Oppo Camp Jack Ginnivan (Traded to Hawks 2023)

[Seedsfan]

Yes it has. Went from targeting the hips to much higher to pin the arms.

You have never been taught to tackle around the hips

 

[Rorzza]

I thought Joel post game conducted himself admirably, stating he didn't mind the booing and he instigated the reaction from the crowd with the high tackle on Ginni. Article from the age if my memory serves me correctly...All the carry on from Joel's team mate and certain media personalities is just fluff.

 

[loki04]

Another example of a complete over reaction by a few. And will happen all season. We lose a game, lipinski sucks, ginni sucks, gameplan sucks. It’s kind of embarrassing tbh. We are going to lose MANY more games, and the kids including ginni will have many POOR games. That’s what happens during a rebuild

Haven’t seen too many people upset with the game plan, only a couple posters wanted to park the bus to use a Buckley-ism in the last which majority of responses were against.

Majority also like the lip and Gin.

 

[Pie eyed]

Cats campaigners did not like his new do.
Kept trying to rip his wig off.

 

[Pie eyed]

There needs to be a change, we need to get rid of ducking.

I think Ginivan has huge potential, I love how he gets under the skin and accept that he does duck and that’s modern footy.

But we need to move the game away from this trend of ducking and playing for free kicks

Do you ever remember an umpire telling Selwood (any member of the entire family, including Mrs Selwood) to stop throwing the head back?

Selwood, (not saying he is complaining either) has benefited from the high tackle rule more than any player. Ever.

 

[Seedsfan]

Do you ever remember an umpire telling Selwood (any member of the entire family, including Mrs Selwood) to stop throwing the head back?

Selwood, (not saying he is complaining either) has benefited from the high tackle rule more than any player. Ever.

It’s something I can’t stand about Selwood. He is a serial ducker and it’s so incredibly frustrating. He is a champion that’s not disputable and could have been a champion without all the ducking

 

[Pie eyed]

It’s something I can’t stand about Selwood. He is a serial ducker and it’s so incredibly frustrating. He is a champion that’s not disputable and could have been a champion without all the ducking

I hate it too. Does my head in, but "playing for frees" is part of the modern game.

Once you have the every footy presenter, making excuses for it then it is locked in.
You have the greatest ever Bomber diver as a respected "football media personality for god sake.
Lyon, Brown, Buckley, Healy. All make excuses for what is really nothing but cheating.
Umpires fall for it, but you can't kill them.
The only way to get rid of it is get rid of everyone at the AFL, the footy media and start with proper footy players.

Name a side without a bevy of divers and head duckers?

It's here to stay....unfortunately.
Players play for dollars and results.
Pride is an afterthought.

 

[Harry O]

Good to see a new 2 year deal signed. Well deserved

 

[sr36]

You have never been taught to tackle around the hips

I was taught to line up the hips and grab them around the waist.

 

[Seedsfan]

I was taught to line up the hips and grab them around the waist.

Started out in football over 20 years ago and have never been coached to tackle low

 

[sr36]

Started out in football over 20 years ago and have never been coached to tackle low

I'm a bit older. There was no aiming for the arms. It was all torso.

 

[Daicosian silk]

Jesus Christ now I can’t unsee it

 

[Daicosian silk]

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Bob Katter Ginnivan

 

[ksardog]

I'd think he was bloody entertaining.

 

[sr36]

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I love watching the supposed villains of the AFL. From Libba snr to Ballantine to Mitch Robinson, Selwood and Toby Greene. I did hate Bewick though, so maybe.

 

[Pie eyed]

I'm a bit older. There was no aiming for the arms. It was all torso.

Watch the hips, tackle the hips.
About as a basic as you can get.

Apart from one coach who decide it would be a great tactic to dive on the ball in every contest to effect a ball up, only hours before the AFL rule against diving on the ball was set in stone, I cannot think of a a less useful tactic than tacking the upper body?

 

[CPH12]

I was taught to line up the hips and grab them around the waist.

This is how I was taught as well, and I think it still holds merit as the hips don't shift direction when players shimmy. But there has been a greater emphasis on pinning the arms over last 15 years as players have got better at releasing a handball whilst being tackled, or team-mates have been better at supporting.

 

[sr36]

Watch the hips, tackle the hips.
About as a basic as you can get.

Apart from one coach who decide it would be a great tactic to dive on the ball in every contest to effect a ball up, only hours before the AFL rule against diving on the ball was set in stone, I cannot think of a a less useful tactic than tacking the upper body?

They want to make sure they pin the arms, because players have gotten much better at hand allying whilst tackled. The tackler is also yryi g to keep his feet and not just put themselves out of the follow up contest we used to when we went to ground tackling lower.

 

[Jen2310]

Did he get Cornes permission to extend his contract? He should be waiting til the end of the year, hasnt earned it yet haha.

 

[Soups]

With all his extra cash he should send Kane a Go pro lol.

 

[Jen2310]

With all his extra cash he should send Kane a Go pro lol.

Maybe they can share one and do some joint footage heh

 

[JuniorB]

It won't change. It's not just about free kicks. With tackles going higher than they used to in an attempt to pin the arms, it's easier to get low and push the tackle up to break it or get your arms free than to stand upright and push the tackle down.

Mason Cox's tackles are all high. He can't help it - it goes with being 211cm tall.

 

[JuniorB]

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gets paid to stir the pot. I just think he's overdone it with Ginnivan. The kid just has an out there personality, which shows in how he goes about his footy. There's a bit of Aker about him. People complain about footy lacking personalities these days - well he is one!
Cornes hasn't put the boot into his former side, now languishing near the foot of the ladder. They would have deserved the treatment after their meek surrender to Hawthorn.

 

[Piestid]

Jack features in the Neds preview this week and Kornes gets a serve. Which Pies BF poster wrote this?!

 

[loki04]

I'm a bit older. There was no aiming for the arms. It was all torso.

I got taught to do both.