List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

 

[bzparkes]

I don't recall Daniher. What happened?

Consider Mackay. He's a bit shit, isn't he? Got band 1. $4.8m, 25 years of age. $800k per season shouldn't be band 1. Or more to the point, shouldn't be a top 2 pick.

People are talking about Harley being offered 17m. What if we made the 8? North get pick 2 for Mackay, Eagles get pick 12 for Harley.

There has to be a better system.

Brisbane paid him a 2 year contract to trigger band 1 on a very high pay, then 'smoothed' it out once he got to the club.

AFL said you can't do that anymore, even though they were the ones who approved the initial contract.

Unsure what McKay's full contract is worth but the first year is $1.5m at least.

The AFL then said they basically 'forgot' to apply the new CBA to the compo, despite his new contract only taking effect under the new CBA, and gifted North pick 2.

$800k would've been band 1 under the old CBA.

 

[bzparkes]

If anyone wants a laugh, Ralphy reckons Hawthorn can “effortlessly satisfy” us in a deal for Harley Reid

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[The Magenius]

Interested to see what kind of reception Oscar gets when the Eagles play at home next. Im sure there is going to be a few bronx cheers or jeers or two.

He'd need to touch the ball to get a bronx cheer.

 

[NYRB]

Poor old Jamie Cripps, on SEN WA this morning, had to bat and defend Oscar. The funny thing Crippa said in the interview was 'Oscar is still giving his heart and soul to the club'. The thing is, this is likely to have a negative effect on the playing group as no doubt it will be brought up for the next few months (if it goes that long)



I mean I know trade talks and planning your future at another club is a bit of an NRL thing with players in discussions in advance.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Brisbane paid him a 2 year contract to trigger band 1 on a very high pay, then 'smoothed' it out once he got to the club.

AFL said you can't do that anymore, even though they were the ones who approved the initial contract.

Unsure what McKay's full contract is worth but the first year is $1.5m at least.

The AFL then said they basically 'forgot' to apply the new CBA to the compo, despite his new contract only taking effect under the new CBA, and gifted North pick 2.

$800k would've been band 1 under the old CBA.

This is wrong. Brisbane's deal for Joe was 3 years, reportedly worth about 800K. They then added 2 more years about 18 months in. The additional years were at a lower wage. They didn't move money from the first 3 years in to the last 2 to "smooth it out" because you can't do that with free agents (see the buddy precedent).

The effect of the additional 2 years is that Joe's entire 5 year deal may not have triggered band 1 compo for Essendon which might have resulted in them matching and Brisbane needing to trade.

Brisbane got Joe for free and inflated the compo for the bombers in th process.

The 2nd part is wrong. It just so happens that McKay became a free agent at the end of a CBA cycle and the new CBA was due to increase substantially the next year. The AFL ranks contracts for free agents against players of the same age in the competition of that year.

So the average money per year in Ben's contract starting in 2024 was ranked against all 25 year olds in 2023 without factoring in the CBA increase.

That's the way it's always been and it just so happens that with McKay, the salary cap was increasing by 12%, so difference when comparing 2023 v 2024 would be substantial.

The AFL didn't "forget" anything.

 

[Elite Pete]

Here comes pick 10, pick 30 and fringe players for Harley article. No chance we do this trade…….. just like no way we do pick 14 for Baker

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He met with his former coach and friend.

You can't stop that, and they wouldn't have been sitting at a cafe having a coffee talking contracts, that would happen regardless of meeting in person all through his manager.

Potentially being able to lie your way out of the situation doesn't mean we can let it occur

In the end this doesn't pass the pub test. If I told my work I'm going to take a hour off to go for a job interview at a rival company I can't see me getting the "that's okay that's business" pep talk Oscar is getting. Just treat him like a human and not a entitled princess. Send a punishment and see if he is mature enough to respond well to it

 

[bzparkes]

This is wrong. Brisbane's deal for Joe was 3 years, reportedly worth about 800K. They then added 2 more years about 18 months in. The additional years were at a lower wage. They didn't move money from the first 3 years in to the last 2 to "smooth it out" because you can't do that with free agents (see the buddy precedent).

The effect of the additional 2 years is that Joe's entire 5 year deal may not have triggered band 1 compo for Essendon which might have resulted in them matching and Brisbane needing to trade.

Brisbane got Joe for free and inflated the compo for the bombers in th process.

Yeah, what I said was close enough. CBF looking for the exact details.

They gave him a short contract to trigger band 1, then extended his contract, which means it's the value of the pay over the contract that matters.

The 2nd part is wrong. It just so happens that McKay became a free agent at the end of a CBA cycle and the new CBA was due to increase substantially the next year. The AFL ranks contracts for free agents against players of the same age in the competition of that year.

So the average money per year in Ben's contract starting in 2024 was ranked against all 25 year olds in 2023 without factoring in the CBA increase.

That's the way it's always been and it just so happens that with McKay, the salary cap was increasing by 12%, so difference when comparing 2023 v 2024 would be substantial.

The AFL didn't "forget" anything.

Interesting they said they'd 'review' it immediately after the uproar from clubs and fans over McKay's compo then, eh?

 

[Barrybran]

Do understand in 2025 its a business. Bartel was saying on Footy Classified last night or his point was 'its a different era now'.

Im also thinking Oscar wants to be part of team success. Genuinely think to be having these conversations with opposition coaches and given where the team are- he wants to do a Barrass and be part of premiership success, something even the honest Eagle fans will admit is probably at least 3 years away, realistically probably 5 years away now.

I half expect Oscar's situation is a little trickier for Oscar than Barrass' was for Barrass. Oscar is younger, is captain of the club, and we will be at or close to the top of the ladder as his career is winding up. Barrass was a vice captain but he wasn't seeing success with us again.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Yeah, what I said was close enough. CBF looking for the exact details.

They gave him a short contract to trigger band 1, then extended his contract, which means it's the value of the pay over the contract that matters.



Interesting they said they'd 'review' it immediately after the uproar from clubs and fans over McKay's compo then, eh?

The review was flagged before the McKay compensation was even given. And like much of what comes from AFL house it sounds like they even haven't finished reviewing it, or nothing came of thereview.

"Wholesale change would be required to reveal or look at some aspects of free agency (compensation). We did flag with clubs ahead of the period that we would review it.

Free agency compo under review, and why the formula isn't public

The mechanisms involved in free agency compensation are set to be reviewed

www.afl.com.au

 

[DanWCE]

Here comes pick 10, pick 30 and fringe players for Harley article. No chance we do this trade…….. just like no way we do pick 14 for Baker

Any danger of not posting this speculative garbage on here? Not just targeted at you, but Harley is being used for click bait in any way, shape or form and it completely plays into it to share these opinions (trash) on here as well.

I signed up here 10 years ago to avoid the nuffy crap posted on social media and now it's infiltrating every thread on our board.

Again, not a jab at you personally but I don't see how posting that utter dribble enhances the experience here.

 

[ziad]

Here comes pick 10, pick 30 and fringe players for Harley article. No chance we do this trade…….. just like no way we do pick 14 for Baker

Glad you don't work for the club. I worry.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I know the world is different these days but seriously in what world is Oscar worth anymore than a 1-2 year contract at about 300-400k per year? I get that he has had injuries but he still seems to have them and bottom line he doesn't perform. How can a 26 year old be still talked about as potential?

Other clubs who are better sides and get the ball inside 50 many times per game may see him play much much better but in a rebuild side like ours he is worth virtually nothing to us.

Get what you can for him and move forward with the young blokes.

 

[garlic munchers]

Here comes pick 10, pick 30 and fringe players for Harley article. No chance we do this trade…….. just like no way we do pick 14 for Baker

Its all part of our evil plan to make the Hawks a premiership force with Fragmantle (lol) in the window and they become one of the unluckiest teams in history (i.e. could have, should have, would have but for the Hawks with Barrass, Allan and Reid).

Could almost live with that.

 

[Shuestar13]

For those who follow the club/league closely, we know such meetings would take place throughout the year, but it is still jarring all the same and not a good look for the captain of the club. Could have easily had a zoom/online meeting and had a face to face catch up during his time off (the mid season bye).

Quite poor tbh and the emotive reaction would be to take the captaincy off him, Liam can handle the job on his own just fine, but I doubt the club will do anything.

As long as we are in line for adequate compensation, then I look forward to his (Oscar’s) annual ailment/injury list to become too much before he is shut down for the year. Then it will be time for goodbye and good luck x

 

[Smotie2]

BARRETT: Oscar Allen got caught. Now, he must pay the price - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1291142

100 percent agree with this.
Wasn't sure where to put it.

 

[Elite Pete]

Any danger of not posting this speculative garbage on here? Not just targeted at you, but Harley is being used for click bait in any way, shape or form and it completely plays into it to share these opinions (trash) on here as well.

I signed up here 10 years ago to avoid the nuffy crap posted on social media and now it's infiltrating every thread on our board.

Again, not a jab at you personally but I don't see how posting that utter dribble enhances the experience here.

Haha, if the article isn’t posted here all the reactions will be anyway?

Like I said in my comment, we though pick 14 for Baker was click bait and splitting 3 for 14 + 17 was…..

If this is a contract Harleys price? What is an OCC Warners

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Potentially being able to lie your way out of the situation doesn't mean we can let it occur

In the end this doesn't pass the pub test. If I told my work I'm going to take a hour off to go for a job interview at a rival company I can't see me getting the "that's okay that's business" pep talk Oscar is getting. Just treat him like a human and not a entitled princess. Send a punishment and see if he is mature enough to respond well to it

Do you seriously think they are sitting in a cafe openly talking about possible contracts?

No, that happens in private, and will be happening with ever player that another club might be interested in, whether in contract or out of contract.

 

[WCEswift]

Quite poor tbh and the emotive reaction would be to take the captaincy off him, Liam can handle the job on his own just fine, but I doubt the club will do anything.

Neither of them have done any media like captains are meant to do, its been bakes

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

FA =

OG club = FTW. Will often get better compo that the player is worth.
New club = FTW. Costs no draft picks. Free.
Everyone else = loses because the draft gets really compromised.

Moral of the story:

To get bang for buck, free agent the shit out of it.

 

[Shuestar13]

Neither of them have done any media like captains are meant to do, its been bakes

Duggan did a press conference last week - he defended/spoke well in relation to Harley

 

[Barrybran]

BARRETT: Oscar Allen got caught. Now, he must pay the price - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1291142

100 percent agree with this.
Wasn't sure where to put it.

Another article that doesn't need to be given air time.

Remember, the club has likely put Oscar in this position, not the other way around.

Could he have left discussions to his management until seasons end? Sure. Does he need to step down as captain because Victorian media demands it? No.

 

[Elite Pete]

Glad you don't work for the club. I worry.

You’d do the trade?

 

[NYRB]

I know the world is different these days but seriously in what world is Oscar worth anymore than a 1-2 year contract at about 300-400k per year? I get that he has had injuries but he still seems to have them and bottom line he doesn't perform. How can a 26 year old be still talked about as potential?

Other clubs who are better sides and get the ball inside 50 many times per game may see him play much much better but in a rebuild side like ours he is worth virtually nothing to us.

Get what you can for him and move forward with the young blokes.

I wouldn't be paying the guy $60,000k+ and a packet of chips let alone the figures Im hearing quoted around.

Imagine paying a guy $800,000 a season and he has picked up 20 disposals in 3 games.

Damien Barrett is calling the Eagles to take the captaincy away from Oscar Allen effectively immediately. What Oscars act did, was disenfranchise a club, its members who pay good money during the Eagles demise.....

BARRETT: Oscar Allen got caught. Now, he must pay the price

The Eagles skipper had every right to meet Hawks coach Sam Mitchell but that meeting must come with a heavy cost, writes Damian Barrett

www.afl.com.au

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1291142

100 percent agree with this.
Wasn't sure where to put it.

Not while Chad Warner is being sold a future in royal blue and yellow.

100%?