Strength Weight Training: Anything and Everything II

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RU_ said:
Benched 157.5kg yesterday, it really is flying right now. Knocking on the door of a 160kg bench!

Did anyone else watch Sheffield?
Terrible meet by Jesus, nothing worked after he broke the squat record.
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owen87 said:
Depends what your purpose is as to whether this is a good idea or not.
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Was just comparing to just going out and running a distance.

I've started putting on bulk since hitting the gym on Feb 1, refusing to weigh myself. Feeling the swole coming in and have probably put on 2kg and lost 2kg of fat. I'm giving myself mini challenges regularly to see how I go over the next 16 weeks.

Today I scored 58cm on a vertical leap which was much more than I anticipated. 65cm on a two foot take off.
 
Not sure what I have done, but my shoulder is shot to s**t. Gotta be some sort of rotator cuff injury.

Can't lift my left arm up. Not sure what caused it, but I think it was the pec deck. I was fine before that :(

Before then, I thought it would be good to try my 1RM on the flat bench which I haven't done fore years.

Managed my best ever (90kg) and probably had more in the tank as it went up pretty easy. Don't want to risk it without a spotter
 
Purple7x08_24 said:
Was just comparing to just going out and running a distance.

I've started putting on bulk since hitting the gym on Feb 1, refusing to weigh myself. Feeling the swole coming in and have probably put on 2kg and lost 2kg of fat. I'm giving myself mini challenges regularly to see how I go over the next 16 weeks.

Today I scored 58cm on a vertical leap which was much more than I anticipated. 65cm on a two foot take off.
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Running for time can be a good way to keep the effort nice and easy, since you know whether you run fast or slow it's 15 minutes still. Unless you treat it as 'how far can I run in 15 mins' then it can get pretty hectic.
 
The Golden Glenferrie said:
Not sure what I have done, but my shoulder is shot to s**t. Gotta be some sort of rotator cuff injury.

Can't lift my left arm up. Not sure what caused it, but I think it was the pec deck. I was fine before that :(

Before then, I thought it would be good to try my 1RM on the flat bench which I haven't done fore years.

Managed my best ever (90kg) and probably had more in the tank as it went up pretty easy. Don't want to risk it without a spotter
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I don't do bb bench for that reason. Too much pain in my right shoulder no matter how I address the technique. DB bench helps considerably
 
Purple7x08_24 said:
I don't do bb bench for that reason. Too much pain in my right shoulder no matter how I address the technique. DB bench helps considerably
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I think i just pushed the close grip shoulder press machine too heavy and shocked the AC joint. Compounded by pec flies that were too heavy. I never learn!

The Barbell bench actually felt good. I felt some twinge in my lower pec that I only usually feel during decline bench, but other than that, the weight moved pretty good.

I reckon i'll give two plates a go when I get a spotter
 
I really struggle to get connection on machines (free weight section always packed and gym I use is tiny). Specifically lat pull downs felt in shoulders/biceps more than lats and chest press more on triceps/shoulders more than chest.

watched youtube videos and just can't seem to fix it. I assume they're still getting worked out but surely should feel it more
 
burge13 said:
I really struggle to get connection on machines (free weight section always packed and gym I use is tiny). Specifically lat pull downs felt in shoulders/biceps more than lats and chest press more on triceps/shoulders more than chest.

watched youtube videos and just can't seem to fix it. I assume they're still getting worked out but surely should feel it more
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I have the same issues. That's why focus on time under tension works, especially on lats.

I think I buggered my AC joint doing wide grip incline bench machine too deep (lol). I am not used to that shoulder stretch and reckon its the cause of my anguish.

No idea how i am going to do back today. Doms from legs on Tuesday is ridiculous and i can't lift my left arm above my head.

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The Golden Glenferrie said:
I have the same issues. That's why focus on time under tension works, especially on lats.

I think I buggered my AC joint doing wide grip incline bench machine too deep (lol). I am not used to that shoulder stretch and reckon its the cause of my anguish.

No idea how i am going to do back today. Doms from legs on Tuesday is ridiculous and i can't lift my left arm above my head.
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Slower and lighter weight?
 
burge13 said:
I really struggle to get connection on machines (free weight section always packed and gym I use is tiny). Specifically lat pull downs felt in shoulders/biceps more than lats and chest press more on triceps/shoulders more than chest.

watched youtube videos and just can't seem to fix it. I assume they're still getting worked out but surely should feel it more
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Try different attachments and grip angles

For me personally the medium width neutral handles hits my lats/teres best

I also generally won't stick with the same attachment every workout, I will mix it up, close grip, wide grip, medium grip etc

Also do a pullover variation for a warm up feeder, that should get your lats activated also.
 

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go you pups said:
generally won't stick with the same attachment every workout, I will mix it up, close grip, wide grip, medium grip etc
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At my old gym the “thing” for pull downs was to do 1 set with every attachment.
Except the owner had a thing for buying attachments and by the time I left we were up to 12-13 sets 😂.

I think someone earlier mentioned slow the tempo down as well?
N=1 but I’ve found that always meant my arms gave out first so I tend to basically do the reps as fast as possible but shoot higher (in the 15-25 range) to equal out TUT.

edit trying to remember what all the attachments were
  • normal lat bar
  • reverse lat/rotator bar (welded so the handles face upwards)
  • wide MAG
  • medium pronated MAG
  • medium neutral MAG
  • medium supinated MAG
  • close pronated MAG
  • close neutral MAG
  • close pronated MAG
  • football bar attachment (which had 3 grip widths - you just had to be careful as it weighed more than the empty cable and would hit you on the head if you tried changing weights sitting down lol)
  • dog bone(? - basically a straight bar with a couple of balls on each end)
  • a bar with those twisty handles that iirc you could adjust to 4-5 widths (I never really used this one)
  • close/D-handle
Sure there’s probably a couple I’ve missed as well
 
Glorfindel said:
At my old gym the “thing” for pull downs was to do 1 set with every attachment.
Except the owner had a thing for buying attachments and by the time I left we were up to 12-13 sets 😂.

I think someone earlier mentioned slow the tempo down as well?
N=1 but I’ve found that always meant my arms gave out first so I tend to basically do the reps as fast as possible but shoot higher (in the 15-25 range) to equal out TUT.

edit trying to remember what all the attachments were
  • normal lat bar
  • reverse lat/rotator bar (welded so the handles face upwards)
  • wide MAG
  • medium pronated MAG
  • medium neutral MAG
  • medium supinated MAG
  • close pronated MAG
  • close neutral MAG
  • close pronated MAG
  • football bar attachment (which had 3 grip widths - you just had to be careful as it weighed more than the empty cable and would hit you on the head if you tried changing weights sitting down lol)
  • dog bone(? - basically a straight bar with a couple of balls on each end)
  • a bar with those twisty handles that iirc you could adjust to 4-5 widths (I never really used this one)
  • close/D-handle
Sure there’s probably a couple I’ve missed as well
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I've got 2 MAG knock offs at home

Both medium grips, neutral and supinated, all I want is that supplier to come out with a close grip neutral and I'm happy with those 3, the close grip pronated/supinated does nothing for me, rather use an old school V grip

I think I have at current count

4 wide grip pulldown bars
(1 each came included with the rack high low tower and the 2nd hand Bodysolid unit I got in the other week, the other 2 is a standard 4 foot and 3 foot bar)
A 72cm pronated grip bar (I want one that is about 50-60cm, shorter seems to be a better width for me)
A V grip
And those 2 MAG knock offs

I've also got a really nice short straight bar for underhand pulldowns also and other pushdown/pulldown variations etc, really nice knurling on it, a mate didn't want it so was happy to snap that one up.
 
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go you pups said:
I've got 2 MAG knock offs at home

Both medium grips, neutral and supinated, all I want is that supplier to come out with a close grip neutral and I'm happy with those 3, the close grip pronated/supinated does nothing for me, rather use an old school V grip

I think I have at current count

4 wide grip pulldown bars
(1 each came included with the rack high low tower and the 2nd hand Bodysolid unit I got in the other week, the other 2 is a standard 4 foot and 3 foot bar)
A 72cm pronated grip bar (I want one that is about 50-60cm, shorter seems to be a better width for me)
A V grip
And those 2 MAG knock offs

I've also got a really nice short straight bar for underhand pulldowns also and other pushdown/pulldown variations etc, really nice knurling on it, a mate didn't want it so was happy to snap that one up.
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For how often I do pull downs & how much variation I need (or like lol) I think I would be fine with:
  • football bar attachment (or alternatively 3x neutral grip handles of different widths but that’s just annoying)
  • normal wide lat bar
  • rotator bar
 
The Golden Glenferrie said:
Not sure what I have done, but my shoulder is shot to s**t. Gotta be some sort of rotator cuff injury.

Can't lift my left arm up. Not sure what caused it, but I think it was the pec deck. I was fine before that :(

Before then, I thought it would be good to try my 1RM on the flat bench which I haven't done fore years.

Managed my best ever (90kg) and probably had more in the tank as it went up pretty easy. Don't want to risk it without a spotter
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Not sure if this is better or not , but you may have damaged/torn the labrum . Thats the exact movement that did mine.

I was able to manage it for a while but it gradually got worse , then I needed it reconstructed ( 2nd one on that shoulder ).
By the time I got it scanned the tear was over an inch, the specialist reckons it started as a major strain .
 
The hands of stone said:
Not sure if this is better or not , but you may have damaged/torn the labrum . Thats the exact movement that did mine.

I was able to manage it for a while but it gradually got worse , then I needed it reconstructed ( 2nd one on that shoulder ).
By the time I got it scanned the tear was over an inch, the specialist reckons it started as a major strain .
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After a bit of rest (I haven't done chest or shoulders since it happened), it has gotten better.

I think i stressed the AC joint. Machine guillotine press with too much weight caused it I would say.

I will just to some basic stuff and not push it too far
 
The Golden Glenferrie said:
After a bit of rest (I haven't done chest or shoulders since it happened), it has gotten better.

I think i stressed the AC joint. Machine guillotine press with too much weight caused it I would say.

I will just to some basic stuff and not push it too far
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Have stayed off barbell bench and any chest machines for well over a decade. You’d definitely have done something to the AC joint.
 
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