Conspiracy Theory The Russia-Ukraine War

[bourbons]

It's no secret that numerous opinion polls showed a majority of Crimeans wanted to join Russia. As for Donbas, a ceasefire ahead of UN supervised elections would be the way to go. Call Putin's bluff. But that would take diplomacy and no one is interested in that.

The war is not being fought over Putin's annexation of Crimea. And yep sure, Putin would be all about a ceasefire and proper UN run election/referendum in Donbas, great idea

I mean, come on

 

[sdfc]

The war is not being fought over Putin's annexation of Crimea. And yep sure, Putin would be all about a ceasefire and proper UN run election/referendum in Donbas, great idea

I mean, come on

Ukraine's war aims include the return of Crimea. Your war until total victory mindset is a recipe for getting more people killed.

 

[mcnulty]

Ukraine's war aims include the return of Crimea. Your war until total victory mindset is a recipe for getting more people killed.

Putin already had already annexed Crimea when he invaded Ukraine. Ukraines war aims? Wtf are you on about?

 

[sdfc]

Putin already had already annexed Crimea when he invaded Ukraine. Ukraines war aims? Wtf are you on about?

Ukraine are in a war. They have war aims. Why would that be a surprise?

 

[mcnulty]

Ukraine are in a war. They have war aims. Why would that be a surprise?

They are in a war because they were invaded, you colossal dumbheck.

 

[sdfc]

They are in a war because they were invaded, you colossal dumb*.

No kidding. I can't be bothered wasting my time stating the obvious. I assume people are smarter than that.

 

[mcnulty]

No kidding. I can't be bothered wasting my time stating the obvious. I assume people are smarter than that.

The ‘war aims’ of the invaded? Do you have even the slightest inkling how stupid you sound right now?

 

[sdfc]

The ‘war aims’ of the invaded? Do you have even the slightest inkling how stupid you sound right now?

Countries at war have war aims. Stamping your feet won't help you.

 

[mcnulty]

Countries at war have war aims. Stamping your feet won't help you.

There wouldn’t be “aims” if Russia hadn’t invaded.

 

[sdfc]

There wouldn’t be “aims” if Russia hadn’t invaded, you gormless halfwit.

We don't have a time machine. We can't just wiz back to a time before the invasion.

Are you still trying to argue that Ukraine doesn't have a war plan?

 

[mcnulty]

We don't have a time machine. We can't just wiz back to a time before the invasion.

Are you still trying to argue that Ukraine doesn't have a war plan?

Yeah. It’s to exist, ******

 

[LuvtheKangas]

We don't have a time machine. We can't just wiz back to a time before the invasion.

Are you still trying to argue that Ukraine doesn't have a war plan?

This is so disingenuous. Relying on semantics to make a stupid point. Any country that is invaded would seek to defend itself. Suggesting that defending against an invasion is a "war plan" is just a sh!t take. Repeating it when your sh!t take is called is weak as p!ss.

 

[mcnulty]

He’s a sock puppet. Has to be. No one’s that stupid.

 

[sdfc]

This is so disingenuous. Relying on semantics to make a stupid point. Any country that is invaded would seek to defend itself. Suggesting that defending against an invasion is a "war plan" is just a sh!t take. Repeating it when your sh!t take is called is weak as p!ss.

That Ukraine has war aims which include the return of Crimea isn't semantics. They would be negligent not to have war aims. The longer this war goes on the more people will die.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

That Ukraine has war aims which include the return of Crimea isn't semantics. They would be negligent not to have war aims. The longer this war goes on the more people will die.

Dig up, stupid.

 

[sdfc]

Dig up, stupid.

First one hissy fit and now another, Keep warmongering,

 

[Zidane98]

 

[Zidane98]

It's no secret that numerous opinion polls showed a majority of Crimeans wanted to join Russia. As for Donbas, a ceasefire ahead of UN supervised elections would be the way to go. Call Putin's bluff. But that would take diplomacy and no one is interested in that.

Incorrect

Putin's 'Human Rights Council' Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results

Putin's Human Right s Council issued a report that was quickly taken down that shows that only 15 percent of Crimeans voted for annexation versus the 81 percent claimed by Russian election officials. Putin plans to repeat the same tricks in the referendum for the independence of the "Peoples...

www.forbes.com

In reality only 30 percent of residents voted and of those only half voted for Russia.

Also the referendum had no option of remaining in Ukraine.

Not to mention the fact that the Crimean referendum was completed under military occupation.

It's completely worthless legally and also complete bullshit.

 

[Zidane98]

The war is not being fought over Putin's annexation of Crimea. And yep sure, Putin would be all about a ceasefire and proper UN run election/referendum in Donbas, great idea

I mean, come on

There was a proper referendum run in 1991.

The results were clear - Ukranians / Donbas residents want independence from the vatnik fascists in Moscow.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

First one hissy fit and now another, Keep warmongering,

LOL.

Now we've added straw man to the disingenuous, stupid posting.

 

[BlueE]

First one hissy fit and now another, Keep warmongering,

Who whistled in the double barrelled vicious personal attacks?

For something clearly true and has been widely reported.

"Kyiv has consistently defined victory as the complete liberation of every inch of Ukraine’s internationally recognized borders — including Crimea, the peninsula that Russia seized and annexed in 2014." ...

After dueling speeches, the war's focus will return to the battlefield for a decisive year

Both Russia and Ukraine have been planning fresh campaigns to seize territory, infusing President Joe Biden’s trip to the war zone with new urgency.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[bourbons]

Ukraine's war aims include the return of Crimea. Your war until total victory mindset is a recipe for getting more people killed.

My mindset

I think you mean the mindset of the people who have been invaded? The one they see as the best path to securing their country's long term future?

 

[bourbons]

I assume people are smarter than that.

lol

Tell us again about how Putin would allow and recognise a UN run election in Donbas

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Who whistled in the double barrelled vicious personal attacks?

For something clearly true and has been widely reported.

"Kyiv has consistently defined victory as the complete liberation of every inch of Ukraine’s internationally recognized borders — including Crimea, the peninsula that Russia seized and annexed in 2014." ...

After dueling speeches, the war's focus will return to the battlefield for a decisive year

Both Russia and Ukraine have been planning fresh campaigns to seize territory, infusing President Joe Biden’s trip to the war zone with new urgency.

www.nbcnews.com

How dare they want back "the peninsula that Russia seized and annexed in 2014."

 

[sdfc]

lol

Tell us again about how Putin would allow and recognise a UN run election in Donbas

Yeah wanting peace is hilarious. It's more realistic than Putin just pulling up stumps and leaving.

So we're left with your solution of a long war where lots more people die.