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Jen2310 said:
Former Collingwood VFLW Coach Chloe McMillan will continue a role with the Club as a full-time Development Coach for the AFL program.

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Good news for Chloe. Might mean she’s moved out of the mentoring program with the senior men, given she now has a full-time position. Pretty sure it’s Chloe we see in the warm ups before our AFL games, as one of the staff interacting with the players.
 
Gotta love this!! .... all his Intsa pics are all footy stuff!!

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Welcome TOM! ... you certainly have my attention. Love, love, Luv it!!

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Geez.
Bates and Bunker huge losses.

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COACH: Tom Cashin (confirmed until 2024, replacing Chloe McMillan – AFL promotion)
STAYING: VFLW: Marnie Jarvis; AFLW: Jordyn Allen, Imogen Barnett, Charlotte Blair, Britt Bonnici, Lauren Brazzale, Lauren Butler, Grace Campbell, Mikala Cann, Brianna Davey, Erica Fowler, Sabrina Frederick, Eliza James, Selena Karlson, Stacey Livingstone, Eleri Morris, Nell Morris-Dalton, Alana Porter, Sarah Rowe, Sarah Sansonetti, Ruby Schleicher, Aishling Sheridan Charlotte Taylor, Tarni White.
ARRIVING: AFLW: Muireann Atkinson (County Monaghan – 2025), Georgia Clark (Glenorchy/Tasmania Devils/North Melbourne VFLW), Lucille Cronin (Kew Comets/Oakleigh Chargers), Mikayla Hyde (Fremantle), Kalinda Howarth (Gold Coast AFLW – 2025), Annie Lee (Carlton AFLW – 2025), Amber Schutte (Traralgon/Gippsland Power).
DEPARTING: VFLW: Jess Bates (Glenelg), Caitlin Bunker (Darebin), Rene Caris (St Kilda via GWS), Riley Christgoergl (Darebin), Monique De Matteo (Darebin), Lara Hausegger (Sydney AFLW), Tannah Hurst (Western Bulldogs VFLW), Eva Nikolitsas (Southern Saints), Georgia Ricardo (Southern Saints), Ella Sciberras (Southern Saints), Emily Shepherd (Box Hill Hawks), Jazmyn Tweddle-O’Donnell (Williamstown); AFLW: Olivia Barber (delisted), Ash Brazill (Fremantle), Tarni Brown (Carlton AFLW), Sophie Casey (delisted), Imogen Evans (delisted), Joanna Lin (delisted), Emily Smith (delisted).
TO BE CONFIRMED: Rhiannon Busch, Tricia Cowan, Nyakoat Dojiok, Lauren Durante, Nicole Hales, Sarah Hosking, Elizabeth Jackson, Amy Kane, Sarah King, Katie Lee, Therese McCafferty, Caitlin Sargent, Amelie Smith, Ella Southgate, Olivia Storer, Rhianna Thiele, Ali Twomey, Charlotte van der Vlies, Alyssa Weston, Nicola Weston, Alyssa Whiley, Matilda Zander.

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2024 List Update - rebel VFLW

A list update for each rebel VFLW team ahead of the 2024 season.
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Bates came here to get drafted and it didn’t happen so can’t blame her for leaving. She was really stiff not to get drafted. We should have last year.
She couldn’t have done more than she did.

But Bunker, our captain leaving us to go to darebin, who didn't win a game. Whats going on here?

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3066 said:
It's all a bit quiet on the AFLW front for the Pies after Sam Wright's appointment.

Besides, clickbait like this.... Your club's best 21: Who's in, who's out, who's new

Does anyone have any solid gos at ground level? Personally I haven't seen any PIES AFLW or VFLW training at Vic Park and usually over a summer I'll see some.

Anyone?
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The AFLW girls are still on their off-season break, and I'd assume VFLW would be training, but they tend to train at AIA. I saw one girl coming out from there this evening.
 
Good to get some dates.



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Last Season: 2nd (11-6)
Coach: Tom Cashin (1st season, replacing Chloe McMillan)

Fixture: SS (A), PM (A), Box (A), Car (H), Dar (A), Ess (H), Syd (A), Gee (A), WB (H), NM (H), SS (H), Cas (A), Dar (H*), Wil (H)
Plays Twice: Darebin, Southern Saints
VFL Double Headers: 5
Interstate Trips: 1
Summary: Last year’s runners up won’t be seen on home soil until they meet arch-rival Carlton in Round 4, with three challenging away games to kick things off, including the Grand Final rematch against Port Melbourne in Round 2. In fact, the Magpies play six of their first eight on the road, so will be wanting to get through that before they get their trade off with five of the last six at home. Their double-ups include 2022 Grand Finalist Southern Saints and 2023 wooden spooner Darebin, although the Magpies will play their Round 13 ‘home’ game against the Falcons at Genis Steel Oval. Meanwhile, there are only two “single-figure” fixtures – including the Port showdown.
Difficulty Score: 242 (ranked 8th)
 

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Jen2310 said:
Good to get some dates.



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Last Season: 2nd (11-6)
Coach: Tom Cashin (1st season, replacing Chloe McMillan)

Fixture: SS (A), PM (A), Box (A), Car (H), Dar (A), Ess (H), Syd (A), Gee (A), WB (H), NM (H), SS (H), Cas (A), Dar (H*), Wil (H)
Plays Twice: Darebin, Southern Saints
VFL Double Headers: 5
Interstate Trips: 1
Summary: Last year’s runners up won’t be seen on home soil until they meet arch-rival Carlton in Round 4, with three challenging away games to kick things off, including the Grand Final rematch against Port Melbourne in Round 2. In fact, the Magpies play six of their first eight on the road, so will be wanting to get through that before they get their trade off with five of the last six at home. Their double-ups include 2022 Grand Finalist Southern Saints and 2023 wooden spooner Darebin, although the Magpies will play their Round 13 ‘home’ game against the Falcons at Genis Steel Oval. Meanwhile, there are only two “single-figure” fixtures – including the Port showdown.
Difficulty Score: 242 (ranked 8th)
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Shocking arcticle by the AFL though, why the feck can't they give a proper clear table listing? why the lazy arse formatting!?!? .....

Fixture: SS (A), PM (A), Box (A), Car (H), Dar (A), Ess (H), Syd (A), Gee (A), WB (H), NM (H), SS (H), Cas (A), Dar (H*), Wil (H)

The season kicks off under the Friday night lights at Moorabbin’s RSEA Park on March 22 when Southern Saints take on Collingwood as the second game of a Saints/Sandringham vs. Collingwood double header.
 
Geez. Some list turnover, dont think I recognise any from previous years.

Collingwood VFLW list​

FIRST NAMESURNAMEDOBHEIGHTSTATUS
JordiIvey10/29/1992175VFLW primary list
SarahIngram2/14/2001168VFLW primary list
ErinMcKinnon12/15/1998189VFLW primary list
MegRyan12/13/1995180VFLW primary list
MarnieJarvis1/10/2000162VFLW primary list
KristenTyquin2/15/1989175VFLW primary list
KaitlynDay12/24/1994168VFLW primary list
AkaylaPeterson10/02/1994176VFLW primary list
RebeccaGrant3/18/1995171VFLW primary list
JaydeVan Dyk3/28/1996168VFLW primary list
HannahDyson1/04/1996174VFLW primary list
AlessiaFrancese4/22/1998170VFLW primary list
NikkiWatts3/22/2000169VFLW primary list
HannahFosbrooke12/18/1998168VFLW primary list
SachiDegiacomi11/29/2000169VFLW primary list
Michaela Molenberg11/06/2003176VFLW development list: Cat A
AvaCampbell7/29/2005173VFLW development list: Cat A
CarlyRemmos8/16/2002173VFLW development list: Cat A
LillyPearce12/31/2002186VFLW development list: Cat A
CharliGranville2/15/2004165VFLW development list: Cat A
MelFreeman11/27/2000175VFLW development list: Cat A
JadeHillas9/30/2003168VFLW development list: Cat A
KaseyLennox8/07/2003177VFLW development list: Cat A
JemmaRamsdale5/07/2005174VFLW development list: Cat A
FrancesWalsh9/14/2002160VFLW development list: Cat A
MayaEllin6/08/2005169VFLW development list: Cat A
MikaleeMaroney11/14/2005158VFLW development list: Cat A
OliviaSmith12/02/2003164VFLW development list: Cat A
MelissaMaizels5/10/1993177VFLW development list: Cat A
GraceOsborne12/18/2004156VFLW development list: Cat A
JaideAnthony11/20/2003165VFLW development list: Cat A
StephWilliams1/27/2002171VFLW development list: Cat A
 
Jen2310 said:
Geez. Some list turnover, dont think I recognise any from previous years.

Collingwood VFLW list​

FIRST NAMESURNAMEDOBHEIGHTSTATUS
JordiIvey10/29/1992175VFLW primary list
SarahIngram2/14/2001168VFLW primary list
ErinMcKinnon12/15/1998189VFLW primary list
MegRyan12/13/1995180VFLW primary list
MarnieJarvis1/10/2000162VFLW primary list
KristenTyquin2/15/1989175VFLW primary list
KaitlynDay12/24/1994168VFLW primary list
AkaylaPeterson10/02/1994176VFLW primary list
RebeccaGrant3/18/1995171VFLW primary list
JaydeVan Dyk3/28/1996168VFLW primary list
HannahDyson1/04/1996174VFLW primary list
AlessiaFrancese4/22/1998170VFLW primary list
NikkiWatts3/22/2000169VFLW primary list
HannahFosbrooke12/18/1998168VFLW primary list
SachiDegiacomi11/29/2000169VFLW primary list
MichaelaMolenberg11/06/2003176VFLW development list: Cat A
AvaCampbell7/29/2005173VFLW development list: Cat A
CarlyRemmos8/16/2002173VFLW development list: Cat A
LillyPearce12/31/2002186VFLW development list: Cat A
CharliGranville2/15/2004165VFLW development list: Cat A
MelFreeman11/27/2000175VFLW development list: Cat A
JadeHillas9/30/2003168VFLW development list: Cat A
KaseyLennox8/07/2003177VFLW development list: Cat A
JemmaRamsdale5/07/2005174VFLW development list: Cat A
FrancesWalsh9/14/2002160VFLW development list: Cat A
MayaEllin6/08/2005169VFLW development list: Cat A
MikaleeMaroney11/14/2005158VFLW development list: Cat A
OliviaSmith12/02/2003164VFLW development list: Cat A
MelissaMaizels5/10/1993177VFLW development list: Cat A
GraceOsborne12/18/2004156VFLW development list: Cat A
JaideAnthony11/20/2003165VFLW development list: Cat A
StephWilliams1/27/2002171VFLW development list: Cat A
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That's a massive squad turnover. The only one l can remember from last season is Jarvis. The others l can't recall any of them!!
 
I had heard the rumours of a merger late last year. Would have been tough.

When Collingwood’s VFLW team takes to the field at Moorabbin on Friday night in the opening game of the 2024 season, only the side’s uniform and name will connect this group of players to the last incarnation of Magpies who played in the second-tier women’s league.
Collingwood lost to Port Melbourne by two goals in the 2023 grand final late last July, and not one of the 21 Magpies from that game have returned to the club this season.

Indeed just one player from Collingwood’s 2023 VFLW list – Marnie Jarvis – remains on the Pies’ books in 2024.

It is at face value a bizarre turn of events for a side that topped the ladder at the end of the home and away season, and has been among the strongest clubs in the VFLW era, winning the premiership in 2019 and being one of two sides left standing in the Covid-cruelled 2021 campaign.

What has happened at Collingwood is unique in part, but also emblematic of deeper issues about the purpose of the state league as AFLW heads towards full-time professionalism.

The genesis of the Magpie exodus can be drawn back to a post on the womensfootballvic Instagram page on November 2 last year.

The page, which has more than 5000 followers, posted a graphic with related text to report that Collingwood was in discussions with Williamstown around a “merger,” which would be similar to the alignment deal between Port Melbourne and Richmond in VFLW, as well as several arrangements both current and past in the VFL men’s competition.

The news sent a shockwave through Collingwood’s playing group, some of whom had been training as top-up players with the side’s AFLW squad.

Clarity was sought by VFLW players to the club’s hierarchy. Later on November 2, a statement was posted on behalf of Pies chief executive Craig Kelly, head of women’s football Jess Burger and the then football operations manager Clare Pettyfor in a player WhatsApp group.

The message confirmed that the club was exploring various models around the future of Collingwood’s involvement in the state league as part of broader reviews from the AFL and the club into the direction of the VFLW. The message committed to keep players informed of any updates.





Just three days later, on Sunday November 5, a message from Burger confirmed the internal review was complete, and following discussions with the AFL, Collingwood would retain its standalone structure for 2024, with emails around season timing and processes to follow in the coming days.

Despite the club’s efforts to smooth things over, it soon became clear that a significant proportion of the Magpies’ VFLW squad would depart the club.

Captain of three seasons Caitlin Bunker, a member of the 2019 premiership side, departed for the standalone Darebin Falcons, as did fellow leadership group members Katie Lee and Riley Christgoergl. Best and fairest Jess Bates returned to South Australia, best first-year player Eva Nikolitsas was one of a group who headed to the Southern Saints – St Kilda’s VFLW side – while others joined North Melbourne, Williamstown, Box Hill and the Western Bulldogs. Some left the league altogether. Only 24-year-old Jarvis, formerly of Carlton’s VFLW team, stayed.

Undoubtedly what has happened at Collingwood is an extreme example, but it’s understood the Magpies were not the only AFL club who discussed a VFLW alignment at the end of 2023.

With the AFLW season and pre-season expanding in recent years, as well as being switched to a Spring timeslot, the VFLW cannot serve an AFL reserves function to that of its men’s equivalent, which also begins this weekend.

Come AFLW season, the VFLW will be wrapped up, meaning non-selected players have needed to rely on scratch matches similar to those played in the Covid AFL men’s hubs.

Christgoergl, previously captain of the Bulldogs VFLW side, provided Code Sports with extracts of the email she sent to Collingwood officials after declining their offer to play in 2024.


“Firstly thank you for the offer for me to continue my football at Collingwood,” Christgoergl wrote.

“After a lot of thought and processing I have decided to not return to Collingwood for the 2024 season. I have been offered a paid contract elsewhere and will be accepting that opportunity. My season at Collingwood was a welcome step up. With access to elite facilities, amazing staff who supported and educated for the love of it and a playing group so incredibly unique in personalities and closeness. It was an absolute pleasure to represent the group and the club as a leader and an on-field player. I couldn't see myself leaving. Unfortunately with what has unfolded in the past couple of weeks, I feel like I have no choice.

“I cannot stand by a club once again who were so willing to dissolve their VFLW program. Western Bulldogs did this prior to the 2022 season and I stayed and completely regretted it. I have sympathy for AFL clubs who have to stretch minimal resources across two programs that don't line up and I agree with the league needing to amend this immediately. However there is a choice to keep players and staff in the dark, a choice to neither confirm or deny rumours of a merger and a choice to not acknowledge the impact this has had on both staff and players. This was the choice made by the club and the people above our program. I cannot put on a jumper and represent or lead at a club that treats people like that.”

The Magpies pointed to the lack of cohesion between AFLW and VFLW in a statement issued to this masthead ahead of the VFLW season.

“As per every AFLW season, Collingwood assessed all areas of the club’s women’s football programs and pathways,” the club said.

“Together with the AFL, the club explored a number of different models for the second-tier system due to the current misalignment of the AFLW and VFLW seasons. One of those models explored was an alignment with another VFLW club, similar to how other AFLW programs are set up across the state.

“Following this process, the club elected to continue with a standalone Collingwood VFLW program and it is important to note all players and program staff were kept updated and communicated with.

“The club will continue to invest in, develop and progress women’s football programs both on and off the field.”


The AFL declined to comment for this story other than to note that veteran football administrator Geoff Walsh was looking at VFLW as part of a wider review into competitive balance across the men’s and women’s games.

Christgoergl said she wanted her story to help bring attention to the VFLW’s plight.

“I’m sharing my experience in the hope that it will drive positive change in the AFLW and the AFLW aligned clubs to ensure that female sport continues to move forward and not backwards,” she said this week.

“I believe we need to shed more light on AFL clubs and the AFL on the minimal growth that the VFLW has had. This league is one below the AFLW and should be treated with that level of respect.

“A lot of attention and resources have gone into the AFLW league, as it should. However we need to walk the walk with women’s development in AFL across all levels to ensure we have consistent and upward growth in the women’s game.”
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Chance to see some of the women playing for our VFLW tonight.

Live stream: https://www.afl.com.au/afl-tv/stream?player=arILJvH9PY&streamId=State League CH16

SOUTHERN SAINTS vs COLLINGWOOD

Friday 22 March, 7:05pm, RSEA Park
Head-to-head: Collingwood 5-3; At RSEA Park: Southern Saints 1-0; Streak: Southern Saints
Last time: Southern Saints 2.6 18 def Collingwood 1.7 13 (May 20, 2023, Victoria Park)

COLLINGWOOD
B: K. Lennox (47), N. Watts (62)
HB: C. Taylor (11), L. Cronin (27), A. Schutte (32)
C: M. Jarvis (48), M. Ryan (44), H. Dyson (59)
HF: C. Granville (42), A. Campbell (39), R. Grant (53)
F: M. Freeman (45), S. Degiacomi (65)
R: L. Pearce (41), F. Walsh (54), S. Ingram (38)
INT: J. Ramsdale (51), A. Peterson (52), C. Remmos (40), H. Fosbrooke (64), G. Osborne (66)
EMG: M. Molenberg (37), K. Tyquin (49), M. Maroney (57), A. Francese (60)


NEW: Ava Campbell (Vermont/Eastern Ranges/Box Hill Hawks), Lucy Cronin (Kew Comets/Oakleigh Chargers), Sachi DeGiacomi (Geelong VFLW), Hannah Dyson (Eastern Devils), Hannah Fosbrooke (Box Hill Hawks), Melanie Freeman (Western Bulldogs VFLW), Rebecca Grant (Collegians), Charli Granville (North Melbourne AFLW), Sarah Ingram (Southport/PINT), Kasey Lennox (Carlton VFLW), Grace Osborne (Kew), Lilly Pearce (Richmond), Akayla Peterson (Box Hill Hawks), Jemma Ramsdale (Southern Saints), Carly Remmos (Southport/PINT), Meg Ryan (Essendon VFLW), Amber Schutte (Traralgon/Gippsland Power), Frances Walsh (Melbourne University), Nikki Watts (Heidelberg)



Collingwood fans searching for some familiar faces for the Magpies’ rebel VFLW season opener against Southern Saints at RSEA Park on Friday night will be hard pressed to find any.

Amazingly the entire 21 players who took the field in last year’s 12-point Grand Final loss to Port Melbourne will not be there when the Magpies take the field, having all headed to other clubs during the off-season.

Marnie Jarvis, who played the first 10 matches last year before succumbing to injury, is the only player still on Collingwood’s rebel VFLW list, while AFLW-listed youngster Charlotte Taylor, who arrived with pick 30 in 2022, is the only other player named for the season opener who was at the club nine months ago.

Jarvis has been named on the wing and Taylor at half-back as the Magpies unveil a completely new outfit for a game where women’s footy takes centre stage by playing after a Smithy’s VFL curtain-raiser between their men’s team and Sandringham.

But that doesn’t mean the Magpies won’t still put out a strong team, with joint Lambert-Pearce medallist Akayla Peterson crossing from Box Hill Hawks and AFLW draftees Lucy Cronin (pick 9, 2023) and Amber Schutte (pick 32, 2023) to make their VFL debuts and 2022 pick 30 Charlotte Taylor to play her first game since a trio of appearances in 2022.

They also have Charli Granville and Lilly Pearce straight off AFLW lists and a host of others with VFLW experience in their 20 recruits, including ex-Saint Jemma Ramsdale.
 
Jen2310 said:
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She was great!! Hopefully can push up to AFLW


I was at the ground doing my thang before the match so saw both the Blues and the Pies up close. The soft skills are really coming up on the girls in general for the comp. Interesting to see up close quite a few held the ball when kicking like Jaz Garner .. i.e holding it at the tail of the ball. It's a nice style for those wanting to do it .... as it I guess allows less error on the drop.

I chatted to one of Carlton's assistant coaches (Christna) for a bit ... just talked about things like how many AFLW listed players can play, are playing in today's game etc. 8 months in between drinks is a very long time for the AFLW girls .... so it was very interesting to find out that North Melbourne don't have any of their AFLW listed players in their VFLW team! Well, it seems to be working for them. Go figure!?!
 
I don't get to any VFLW games, thanks to those that post bits of news.

The AFL says it wants to promote the Women's game but they are appalling with its promotion when the seniors aren't playing.

Hopefully when the seniors start training in June there will be a bit more.
 
Maggie5 said:
I don't get to any VFLW games, thanks to those that post bits of news.

The AFL says it wants to promote the Women's game but they are appalling with its promotion when the seniors aren't playing.

Hopefully when the seniors start training in June there will be a bit more.
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I still think the AFL has stuffed up the scheduling, VFLW and AFLW. The two levels should ideally play the same season, so that there is more interaction between the teams. Maybe it’s a cost thing for the club? Also - and I may be wrong - but the AFLW season seemed to attract more attention and support when it was played early in the year rather than later. When fans were keen to see some footy, rather than tiring of it, especially if your AFL team performed poorly.
 
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