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What a load of crap.The article said , it was not supplied for sentencing purposes. The only reason references are supplied in court are for sentencing purposes. They have no impact elsewhere in a trial. I read it as a reference given without the court case in mind.
I have to be clear that as a victim myself I (see my posts in SRP) i detest child abuse . I am a huge fan of broken rites and a hater of the church but to say Bob is s**t bloke defies logic. You’re just amassing your hate and downloading on anyone you can associate with the church and their shocking history of peodophila. Bob was a shining light in the church and to say he is a s**t bloke shows how out of touch you are.
Your selectively chosen links there was only one where he offered a reference in court to a priest he had known for ages. I can live with that, he knew him on a personal level albeit not aware of his abuse. This is not a person who cranked out a letter to save someone’s skin he had barely known. Abusers lie to all around them and they are good at it. It’s not a crime to have been duped by an a abuser. It’s not a crime or morally wrong to offer the court a reference for what you have seen in a person no matter what the crime is. That is why they are accepted by the court to show the other side of the person other than the criminal aspect.
As for other abusing priests like Risdale, again just because he was in a seminary with him means nothing.
All the other links there is nothing that indicates he supported peodophiles. They were all irrelevant filler.
Bob has come out against the church and its actions, here he even discusses the fact that he was unaware of individual priests committing these crimes. He singles out the bishops for mention , they are the ones who had the knowledge and shuffled the priests around .
The biggest issue facing the church in recent times – perhaps in its entire history – is paedophilia in the church. The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse saw thousands of appalling incidents revealed, and a culture of cover-up, victim-blaming and abrogation of responsibility of the worst kind. "It's a chain of command from the top down," he says. "All round Australia the bishops have got to make up their mind about what they're going to do to offset the damage done by the sexual abuse of children. I think it's too much for them, poor devils, because they've all become 'let us not say anything much about this because we'll put our foot in it as sure as God'. They could've said we will repent, we will sell the cathedral, we will all go and live on the street and we'll live in the backpackers'."
Recognition of the issue and an apology would've been a first step. Was he aware of any such behaviour in fellow priests? "Oh God no. We were the field officers, we were in the field."
Father Bob Maguire calls for compassion and common sense: 'We're all in this together'
An unexpected deadline means I need to postpone lunch with Father Bob. When I phone to explain, he doesn't pull any punches: "I'll probably be dead by then."www.theage.com.au
This was paywalled from the sun in 2017, Fr Bob Maguire wants officials and bishops to work out a formula for apprehending paedophiles
Here Bob discusses that if a person confessed to child abused in confessional he would report it to police against church rules. Another priest discusses the burden but would still say quiet.
There is no mention at all of what Bob did or did not do, just that it was mentioned to him.
He was in the same parish for a short time but again it says nothing of what Bob knew or did not know Or events there.
He was supporting the individual, not his crime or actions.
Your decision to slur McGuire was naive , ignorant and some internet chest beating you did to make yourself feel good, nothing more.
Happy to join you in bashing the church on the SRP but leave the misguided Bob bashing out here. He is not representative of what happened in the church for all of these years.
I would be surprised if it is not appealed.
He should be given the cure.
That's weird, because this is what the judge said regarding his sentencing:
He should have gone to jail for that one. This one is still alleged so he's still entitled to the presumption of innocence. If it gets to court and he's found guilty again, they should throw away the key.
Agree. My point is that, IMO, it was ridiculous for the judge to declare the first indirection a "one-off event" when he couldn't possibly have known that, and subsequently give him a lighter sentence for it.
Took him while to go to policeThis one’s been around since last year.
