Jacinta Allan - 49th Victorian Premier.

[Sttew]

Some of these places are delusional. Often call themselves a ‘villiage’ here’s a tip. They aren’t villages

WTF are you on about?

 

[Gralin]

The Big Housing Build in Action

‘It’s not the 19th century’: tenants in new social housing block in Victoria say they go weeks without flushing toilets

The complex was heralded as the ‘most advanced’ of its kind when it opened but residents say maintenance requests are often ignored or take weeks to address

www.theguardian.com

The estate was previously public housing, managed directly by the Victorian government. Since its redevelopment, the 200-dwelling complex offers only community housing managed by third-party not-for-profit provider Evolve and rent-controlled affordable housing.

so public housing on public land is now replaced by community housing with terrible service and no accountability

I'm shocked that outsourcing would be such a bad idea

A NSW housing provider extends into Victoria, they also run for profit businesses including a real estate agency

 

[Satan]

How come Cheeseman didnt get kicked out of alp victoria unlike fowles who has not been charged but was kicked out
Intresting update
Victorian MP Darren Cheeseman has been kicked out of the Labor caucus after Premier Jacinta Allan said she received new information about his alleged persistent inappropriate behaviour.

 

[Crankyhawk]

WOW! Cranky by name and cranky by demeanour. I suggested a location. You canned it, and only in an edit did you offer an alternative location, which sums up how bereft you are of ideas.

The problem in the first place was that Dan acted before thinking as he did so often. Bought a building for $40M and thought he’d put the injection facility there without thinking about it.

because your suggestion was clearly only an attempt at trying to trap me on the "no cost to enter = no commercial value" argument and not a serious suggestion of a location

FFS I liked a later suggestion of Parliament house - and there are some natural synergies that could be worthwhile.

Do you have an issue with my suggestion of Crown (and the edit happened about 1 minute after the original post)

 

[Sttew]

because your suggestion was clearly only an attempt at trying to trap me on the "no cost to enter = no commercial value" argument and not a serious suggestion of a location

FFS I liked a later suggestion of Parliament house - and there are some natural synergies that could be worthwhile.

Do you have an issue with my suggestion of Crown (and the edit happened about 1 minute after the original post)

Never step foot in the casino, so yeah,

 

[TheEscapeClub]

How come Cheeseman didnt get kicked out of alp victoria unlike fowles who has not been charged but was kicked out
Intresting update
Victorian MP Darren Cheeseman has been kicked out of the Labor caucus after Premier Jacinta Allan said she received new information about his alleged persistent inappropriate behaviour.

I'd hazard a guess and say the only new information she received was from her handlers telling her not getting rid of Cheeseman made her look bad.

I listened to her presser today, 100% straight from the Dan Andrews playbook, just refuse to answer anything and bully or belittle reporters.

What a campaigner.

 

[Satan]

Hospital used ambulance, fake patients during ministerial visit

Ten Colac Area Health staff members, who worked in other sections of the hospital, attended the urgent care clinic during the visit and sat in the waiting room.

www.theage.com.au

The investigation, commissioned by the Health Department, found there was a real possibility that patient care could have been impacted. But material resources were not found to have been diverted away from genuine demand at the time.
“The investigator was satisfied on the basis of the available information that each of those actions were taken in order to make it appear to the minister that the [urgent care clinic] was busier than it actually was on the day of the visit,” an executive summary report said.

Ten Colac Area Health staff members, who worked in other sections of the hospital, attended the urgent care clinic during the visit and sat in the waiting room.

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‘Fake patient’ investigation over health minister’s visit to Colac clinic​

At least one ambulance was also arranged and presented a fake patient, who was triaged by the urgent care clinic staff. Ambulance Victoria is dealing with that finding internally, the department said.


Yes minister stuff

 

[tandino]

Is that what passes for entertainment at Colac?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

The wife of a senior Liberal MP was also involved

 

[Sttew]

No surprise. The Allen government says there will be no money in the state budget for an Airport Rail Link. What is surprising is that in what is touted to be the absolute budget from Hell, the SRL will remain untouched.

 

[FIGJAM]

The Big Housing Build in Action

‘It’s not the 19th century’: tenants in new social housing block in Victoria say they go weeks without flushing toilets

The complex was heralded as the ‘most advanced’ of its kind when it opened but residents say maintenance requests are often ignored or take weeks to address

www.theguardian.com

so public housing on public land is now replaced by community housing with terrible service and no accountability

I'm shocked that outsourcing would be such a bad idea

A NSW housing provider extends into Victoria, they also run for profit businesses including a real estate agency

I’ve got no problem with it being outsourced for profit, but it appears to have been given to a provider who professes to run that side of the business as a not for profit and would say all the right things to a government to get the contract signed.

If you’re going to outsource community housing, give it to a serious ‘for profit’ build-to-rent operator, with a mandate to maintain the joint just like they do the private lease agreements. It’d then be on their interests to run the joint flawlessly, thereby getting a good stream of income that is partly government backed and will improve the attractiveness as an investment vehicle for superfunds and the like, thus reducing yields and increasing capital values.

If you give it to a not for profit organisation, you can cut the two-f**** that they’re not giving with a knife!

“With their maintenance, there’s only three emergencies and the three emergencies are: blocked pipes, smashed window, loss of keys.”.

Getting sewerage off the premises is seemingly considered an optional luxury by this mob!

 

[Gralin]

I’ve got no problem with it being outsourced for profit, but it appears to have been given to a provider who professes to run that side of the business as a not for profit and would say all the right things to a government to get the contract signed.

If you’re going to outsource community housing, give it to a serious ‘for profit’ build-to-rent operator, with a mandate to maintain the joint just like they do the private lease agreements. It’d then be on their interests to run the joint flawlessly, thereby getting a good stream of income that is partly government backed and will improve the attractiveness as an investment vehicle for superfunds and the like, thus reducing yields and increasing capital values.

If you give it to a not for profit organisation, you can cut the two-f**** that they’re not giving with a knife!

“With their maintenance, there’s only three emergencies and the three emergencies are: blocked pipes, smashed window, loss of keys.”.

Getting sewerage off the premises is seemingly considered an optional luxury by this mob!

lol for profit housing is diabolical
suggesting that a for profit would run the housing better, nah

they want to spend as little as possible and make as much as possible off it

this whole model is just setup so that

a) governments are no longer responsible for the standard of public housing
b) their mates can make money off public land
c) they can say they did something about the crisis

this idea that a for profit company cares more than a not for profit, lol no they care about making money, if you think the only reason people will do anything is to make money that's just the capitalist ideology which is like the idea that only people scared of hell do good things

that company exists to win government contracts, not to make life better for people, not really, their parent company is for profit, this arm isn't so that they can get those contracts

that doesn't mean they aren't run to make a profit, just that any profit would be recorded against the parent company, like as interest payments on a "loan" they gave their community housing company or some such rot

 

[MarcMaverick]

No surprise. The Allen government says there will be no money in the state budget for an Airport Rail Link. What is surprising is that in what is touted to be the absolute budget from Hell, the SRL will remain untouched.

No body will touch her's and Daniel Andrews baby. Even if our grand-kids are having to repay the debt as this albatross keeps blowing out. Lets not forget that it is ugly.

 

[peetoo]

No body will touch her's and Daniel Andrews baby. Even if our grand-kids are having to repay the debt as this albatross keeps blowing out. Lets not forget that it is ugly.

It’s a 30-50 year project? Your grand kids will ‘get it’

 

[deck]

No surprise. The Allen government says there will be no money in the state budget for an Airport Rail Link. What is surprising is that in what is touted to be the absolute budget from Hell, the SRL will remain untouched.

No extra money. It has already been allocated $10billion.

 

[MarcMaverick]

It’s a 30-50 year project? Your grand kids will ‘get it’

If by 'get it', you mean a mountain of debt, you are right.

 

[peetoo]

If by 'get it', you mean a mountain of debt, you are right.

Average house price 5-6 million by then. Not sure about wages

 

[FIGJAM]

lol for profit housing is diabolical
suggesting that a for profit would run the housing better, nah

they want to spend as little as possible and make as much as possible off it

this whole model is just setup so that

a) governments are no longer responsible for the standard of public housing
b) their mates can make money off public land
c) they can say they did something about the crisis

this idea that a for profit company cares more than a not for profit, lol no they care about making money, if you think the only reason people will do anything is to make money that's just the capitalist ideology which is like the idea that only people scared of hell do good things

that company exists to win government contracts, not to make life better for people, not really, their parent company is for profit, this arm isn't so that they can get those contracts

that doesn't mean they aren't run to make a profit, just that any profit would be recorded against the parent company, like as interest payments on a "loan" they gave their community housing company or some such rot

I’m not saying that for profit entities would run it better than the government; what I’m saying is if you’re going to choose to outsource it, don’t half-arse it like they have here.

There are some great examples of mixed privately owned and NRAS apartment complexes. One in Bourke Street Docklands built new lend Lease springs to mind.

Of course NRAS want the right model, as you’re outsourcing the maintenance responsibilities to individual investors.

With build to rent, it would come under one facility manager, for both affordable living and conventional rentals.

I’ve never lived in community housing, one I can’t comment as to the quoted article’s claim that before this set up, all issues were fixed perfectly by the government at pace (I have some doubts there!).

But these Evolve cats are clearly taking the piss! Makes you wonder how they got the contract. What metrics are used? Is it about warm and fuzzy ‘not for profit’ feels, or can these guys do an great job?

And how they aren’t obliged to ensure that sewerage leaves the premises? It is the government writing these contracts after all.

 

[Sttew]

No extra money. It has already been allocated $10billion.

From Feds and state, but if it is a goer it will need more than that. Fact is the state Labor government has zero interest in the Airport Rail link.

 

[peetoo]

Not just labor. Anyway lets fix what we use every day not once or twice a year

Why it took 50 years for an airport rail link to get off the ground

Half a century after Melbourne's international airport opened, Victoria is the closest it has been to building a rail link to Tullamarine. Why did it take so long?

www.theage.com.au

 

[Carn The Berries]

School Saving Bonus

The School Saving Bonus provides $400 in support for every child at government schools, and eligible concession card holders at non-government schools.

www.vic.gov.au

Will be very interested to see how this plays out in reality... $400 per kid is quite a bit, particularly for early Primary years who are unlikely to go on camps.

Given the payments are going directly to the schools I would imagine Principals and Business Managers are currently trying to figure out how much of this they can syphon off given their inability to compel families to make levy payments....

 

[Sttew]

Anyway lets fix what we use every day not once or twice a year

That's a fairly narrow and naïve view to take.

Almost 31 million passenger movements occur at Melbourne Airport each year and this is growing. That's people flying in and out. And you're saying because you or whoever may only use the airport twice a year an airport rail link is not a priority. Is that what you are saying?

Clearly not everyone would use a rail link, but with parking costs as high as they are and the limitations of Skybus, a rail link would be guaranteed good patronage considering how far out Melbourne Airport is. And Melbourne Airport is regarded as one of the top 50 busiest airports in the world. The Melbourne - Sydney route is one of the busiest in the world with over 9 million people flying between the two cities each year. And you can't see the value in an Airport link?

How many people do you think will use SRL?

 

[The Punter]

Can you catch rail to the Airport? No.

Can you already catch rail from Cheltenham to Box Hill? Yes.

 

[peetoo]

That's a fairly narrow and naïve view to take.

Almost 31 million passenger movements occur at Melbourne Airport each year and this is growing. That's people flying in and out. And you're saying because you or whoever may only use the airport twice a year an airport rail link is not a priority. Is that what you are saying?

Clearly not everyone would use a rail link, but with parking costs as high as they are and the limitations of Skybus, a rail link would be guaranteed good patronage considering how far out Melbourne Airport is. And Melbourne Airport is regarded as one of the top 50 busiest airports in the world. The Melbourne - Sydney route is one of the busiest in the world with over 9 million people flying between the two cities each year. And you can't see the value in an Airport link?

How many people do you think will use SRL?

I live canterbury. NEL will give me a second road option to get there. I’m happy with that

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Can you catch rail to the Airport? No.

Can you already catch rail from Cheltenham to Box Hill? Yes.

Cheltenham to Box Hill by Public transport: 1 to 1.5 hours.
Cheltenham to Box Hill by car: 30 minutes to an 1 hour 15 mins.

Public transport is just not competitive enough. Want less traffic? Guess what needs to happen.