List Mgmt. 2018 Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[LeverPuller]

Yup, with us rolling up on 52 minutes after the 2017 period closes, it's time for us to kick this off.

Live Tracker of Players Out Of Contract End of 2018 (courtesy of Footywire]

Out of Contract Melbourne Players (as of 19/10/17)
Angus Brayshaw
Max Gawn (FA)
James Harmes
Neville Jetta (FA)
Dean Kent
Pat McKenna
Christian Petracca
Tom McDonald (FA)
Oscar McDonald
Josh Wagner
Mitch Hannan (assumed as 2016 draftee)
Dion Johnstone (assumed as 2016 draftee)
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Tim Smith (2nd year Rookie)
Cam Pedersen
Declan Keilty (Rookie status unknown for 2018)
Aaron vandenBerg
Bernie Vince
Mitch King
Lachlan Filipovic (R)


Potential key Free Agents from other clubs (as of 19/10/17)
Brodie Smith
Rory Sloane
Ryan Lester
Alex Fasolo
Cam Guthrie
Tom Lynch (GC)
Isaac Smith
Shaun Atley
Andrew Gaff
Scott Lycett
Luke Dahlhaus

 

[00Stinger]

Gettable players to go after Dahlhaus, Gaff and Smith

 

[LeverPuller]

Gettable players to go after Dahlhaus, Gaff and Smith

Assuming we have the cap, I want to throw the kitchen sink at Dahl, instant improvement as a Fwd/Mid

 

[00Stinger]

Assuming we have the cap, I want to throw the kitchen sink at Dahl, instant improvement as a Fwd/Mid

Yep. He would free up Petracca.
Smith for outside pace and Gaff for a classy outside player

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[mrmonkey]

Quite a fair few on the list are priorities. Some have shown a bit but spots are getting tight so may end up as trade bait. Some really need to show something next year or It's bye byes, and Some are definite bye byes.

 

[TheCount]

My view of those coming off contract ...

Angus Brayshaw - Resign ASAP
Max Gawn (FA) - Resign ASAP
Colin Garland - Already gone
James Harmes - Mid year if form continues
Neville Jetta (FA) - Resign ASAP
Dean Kent - Needs a big preseason and good early form
Pat McKenna - Needs to get on the park and show something in the VFL at least
Christian Petracca - Resign ASAP
Tom McDonald (FA) - Resign ASAP
Oscar McDonald - Resign ASAP
Josh Wagner - Delist if there are better options
Mitch Hannan (assumed as 2016 draftee) - Resign ASAP
Dion Johnstone (assumed as 2016 draftee) - Needs to show something
Jay Kennedy-Harris - Needs to show something in the AFL
Tim Smith (2nd year Rookie) - Needs to get on the park and take his opportunities if/when they come
Cam Pedersen - Later in the year, depends on his form and Weid's
Declan Keilty (Rookie status unknown for 2018) - Break in case of emergency
Aaron vandenBerg - Needs to get on the park and take his opportunities
Bernie Vince - Needs to enjoy his last season playing mostly VFL
Mitch King - Needs a big preseason and show something in the VFL
Lachlan Filipovic (R) - Needs time.

 

[schmuttt]

Petracca is the biggest signature there (I'm assuming Gawn will have signed up in the next few weeks). Would love to lock him down with a 4-5 year deal.

 

[Xhoquelin]

Nothing really inspiring on the FA front although I'd like Dahlhaus for sure.

Hopefully we can get Harmes, Gus, OMac on relatively team friendly deals and shell out the cash to tie Trac down long term.

 

[Scythe94]

I have never wanted a player locked in more than Petracca. He won’t leave, but I’ll feel much better when he’s signed up for another few years.

 

[Sando22]

Just lock Traccs in for as long as possible.
Give him whate he wants for the next 7 or so years

 

[Sellout Scully]

I suspect TMac is going to hold out til the end of next season to get maximum $$$. I would argue he's perhaps our most important player in the team right at this moment.

 

[Dark Avenger]

I suspect TMac is going to hold out til the end of next season to get maximum $$$. I would argue he's perhaps our most important player in the team right at this moment.

Every time he's been OOC he has always waited to hear whats on offer from other clubs.

 

[markm106]

Petracca is the biggest signature there (I'm assuming Gawn will have signed up in the next few weeks). Would love to lock him down with a 4-5 year deal.

I think Mahoney said Gawn is close to signing. So yep hopefully we'll hear something in next few weeks.

 

[markm106]

I bloody hope we can lock in Tmac and Petracca soon. Can't see either leaving though.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I suspect TMac is going to hold out til the end of next season to get maximum $$$. I would argue he's perhaps our most important player in the team right at this moment.

If he plays a lot of forward time and can kick 40-50 goals next year his value will skyrocket IMO. Good move on his part to hold out

 

[PerfectFooty]

Also do note footywire isn't entirely always accurate with contracts as opposition fans pointed out to me, but it's generally almost spot on

 

[LeverPuller]

Also do note footywire isn't entirely always accurate with contracts as opposition fans pointed out to me, but it's generally almost spot on

Yeah, hasn't been updated yet, but it's a pretty good guide

 

[Topkent]

Victorian kids don't move to other Victorian clubs for minimal differences in contract prices. No way we lose any of our good Victorian kids.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Victorian kids don't move to other Victorian clubs for minimal differences in contract prices. No way we lose any of our good Victorian kids.

Yeah. When push comes to shove we'll offer Petracca the big bucks within reason. The only reason any of our young guns would leave is culture or a godfather offer, and even then it would be unlikely to happen

 

[Topkent]

Yeah. When push comes to shove we'll offer Petracca the big bucks within reason. The only reason any of our young guns would leave is culture or a godfather offer, and even then it would be unlikely to happen

I always say it though, when was the last time a gun Victorian went to another Victorian club?

Leigh Colbert? Luke Ball?
Victorian kids don't swap clubs unless they are in the reserves or at a bottom club looking to go up.

 

[Xenthor]

Vince, McKenna and Johnstone are my early tips for delisting

 

[PerfectFooty]

Vince, McKenna and Johnstone are my early tips for delisting

Vince knows the end is coming, he'll retire. Johnstone i'm happy to keep developing for the moment

 

[LeverPuller]

Vince, McKenna and Johnstone are my early tips for delisting

Vince, JKH, Wagner for mine.

 

[PerfectFooty]

I don't want to be the one to shoot bambi, but if vanders doesn't get himself right and play either VFL or AFL consistently next year than he'll probably get chopped. Such is the cut throat industry of AFL.

Kent also falls into risk

2018 possible changes imo
Retire - Vince
Delist - Mckenna, Wagner
Asses by 2018 performance - Pedersen, vandenBerg, JKH, Kent, T Smith

The Rest
Angus Brayshaw (Re-contract for 2 years)
Max Gawn (FA) (Re-contract for 3 years, Give Option for 4)
James Harmes (Re-contract for 2 years)
Neville Jetta (FA) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Christian Petracca (Re-contract for 3 years)
Tom McDonald (FA) (Re-contract for 3 years, Give Option for 4)
Oscar McDonald (Re-contract for 2 years)
Mitch Hannan (assumed as 2016 draftee) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Dion Johnstone (assumed as 2016 draftee) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Mitch King (Re-contract for 1 year)
Lachlan Filipovic (R) (Re-Rookie - 1 year extension)

 

[ABray10]

I don't want to be the one to shoot bambi, but if vanders doesn't get himself right and play either VFL or AFL consistently next year than he'll probably get chopped. Such is the cut throat industry of AFL.

Kent also falls into risk

2018 possible changes imo
Retire - Vince
Delist - Mckenna, Wagner
Asses by 2018 performance - Pedersen, vandenBerg, JKH, Kent, T Smith

The Rest
Angus Brayshaw (Re-contract for 2 years)
Max Gawn (FA) (Re-contract for 3 years, Give Option for 4)
James Harmes (Re-contract for 2 years)
Neville Jetta (FA) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Christian Petracca (Re-contract for 3 years)
Tom McDonald (FA) (Re-contract for 3 years, Give Option for 4)
Oscar McDonald (Re-contract for 2 years)
Mitch Hannan (assumed as 2016 draftee) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Dion Johnstone (assumed as 2016 draftee) (Re-contract for 2 years)
Mitch King (Re-contract for 1 year)
Lachlan Filipovic (R) (Re-Rookie - 1 year extension)

Agree with most of this, but after seeing how quickly the cliff can approach big men with Goldsteins last couple of years would only offer Gawn 2 if we could get away with it, had a bad history with injury as well. Would also only give Harmes and Dion one if they hadn't cemented a spot in the 22.