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Kostecki is literally here just to cause chaos, he doesn't GAF anymore. Cracking race so far
 

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The race stewards stated that they were looking at multiple incidents from yesterday's race, but that any penalties would not change the final classification. There are still no announcements on speedcafe or the Supercars website, announcing what the final penalties will be.

The incidents under investigation include...
  • Red Bull losing a wheel nut, which went flying into the fast lane.
  • Chaz Mostert losing a wheel on the track (due to cross-threading of the wheel nut).
  • The unholy mess in when (almost) the entire field tried to pit at the same time, resulting in cars being double stacked, and at least 3x slow speed collisions in pit lane.
Interestingly, there is still no mention - anywhere - of Richie Stanaway jumping the start by about 1-2 seconds. I guess it's being ignored because he was right at the very back of the grid, but surely someone else noticed it?
 
Black_White said:
Foxtel.
It has now fixed itself.
As it had been poor for about 2 hours I thought it was just the way it was coming out of NZ.
I couldn’t even read the “tree” at one stage.
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Strange, i didn't notice any issues and was on a projector so blown up pretty big.

HD is now included with the new pricing structure, like it should always have been.
 

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Jatz said:
Doesn't seem like there's much interest in the category anymore...
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It's dying... both from a spectator and driver perspective. The drivers now see it as a stepping stone, on their way to NASCAR or Indycar. The spectators have lost interest since the end of the Commodore/Falcon era, given that they can't relate to the cars being raced on the track.

Supercars management have NFI what they're going to do with the category either, given that they're still insisting that Gen4 won't be hybrid (let alone fully electric). They're making decisions which lead to the category more irrelevant with every passing year.
 
Vader said:
It's dying... both from a spectator and driver perspective. The drivers now see it as a stepping stone, on their way to NASCAR or Indycar. The spectators have lost interest since the end of the Commodore/Falcon era, given that they can't relate to the cars being raced on the track.

Supercars management have NFI what they're going to do with the category either, given that they're still insisting that Gen4 won't be hybrid (let alone fully electric). They're making decisions which lead to the category more irrelevant with every passing year.
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Going hybrid/electric would absolutely kill off the category - although as you say, it's going that way anyway.

It's been mismanaged for well over a decade and the decline really shouldn't surprise many.
 
Jatz said:
Going hybrid/electric would absolutely kill off the category - although as you say, it's going that way anyway.

It's been mismanaged for well over a decade and the decline really shouldn't surprise many.
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At least with Hybrid they still have a big engine roar. F1 is a hybrid category...

I don't think the technology is there yet to go fully electric, particularly when it comes to the enduro races. Current battery technology for running that long would be prohibitively heavy. They would need to look at drop in/out replacement batteries. Yes, Formula E exists, but those cars are much lighter than a Supercar, and their races are similar in length to the Supercars' sprint rounds.

How the audience would react to racing without the V8 roar is another unknown. I watched a Formula E race a couple of years ago, and it was boring as batshit, with almost no overtaking.
 
Vader said:
At least with Hybrid they still have a big engine roar. F1 is a hybrid category...

I don't think the technology is there yet to go fully electric, particularly when it comes to the enduro races. Current battery technology for running that long would be prohibitively heavy. They would need to look at drop in/out replacement batteries. Yes, Formula E exists, but those cars are much lighter than a Supercar, and their races are similar in length to the Supercars' sprint rounds.

How the audience would react to racing without the V8 roar is another unknown. I watched a Formula E race a couple of years ago, and it was boring as batshit, with almost no overtaking.
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Yes it is and yet everyone that follows the F1 pines for the days of the V8/V12 engine. Sounded a million times better.

I'd be staggered if electric racing ever took off over here, even if they could do it. I just don't think there's the interest in it to make it genuinely viable.
 
Jatz said:
Yes it is and yet everyone that follows the F1 pines for the days of the V8/V12 engine. Sounded a million times better.
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They definitely sounded better in the V8/V12 era, but they're still a very attractive proposition in the current hybrid era. Thanks to Drive to Survive, and Liberty Media's management of the category, F1 is now more popular than it has ever been before.
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I'd be staggered if electric racing ever took off over here, even if they could do it. I just don't think there's the interest in it to make it genuinely viable.
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Which begs the question what future any category of motorsport has in Australia? Like it or not, the days of the Internal Combustion Engine are rapidly coming to an end.
 
Vader said:
They definitely sounded better in the V8/V12 era, but they're still a very attractive proposition in the current hybrid era. Thanks to Drive to Survive, and Liberty Media's management of the category, F1 is now more popular than it has ever been before.

Which begs the question what future any category of motorsport has in Australia? Like it or not, the days of the Internal Combustion Engine are rapidly coming to an end.
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It is but I think a lot of interest from Drive to Survive has died off with how uncompetitive it's been in recent seasons. Add to this the knocking back of Andretti and no American driver worth following and I think it's lost a lot of the interest it drummed up.

I don't think there is any future for a meaningful category of motorsport in this country, certainly not one that is as big as what Supercars has been over the years.
 
Just cancel the rest of the season and future championships, there would not be one person upset by this. There is not 1 fan left of the idiocy that is left of a once former great championship
 
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