Review Winners and losers - trade week 2024

[The Nostradamus]

did anyone else bring in 3 all Australian premiership players?

 

[Hamingja]

did anyone else bring in 3 all Australian premiership players?

Good trade period if it was still 2019

 

[THE_GUN]

Im all for cap trading

Teams like Richmond , North , Eagles will have or have surplus cap space that would be used to pay young kids stupid amounts of money before they achieve anything and that just drives the salaries higher for the new recruits

That cap space would be better utilized to gain more talent in the early stages of a rebuild then also used to bring in free agents that fit the side rather that blow the cash at players that will only be depth just because they are free agents

In the next 2 years Richmond would have 8-10 miliion surplus cap space and could trade 2-3 mil for 2 1st rounders and continue the rebuild which accelerates the process and teams like Fremantle & Sydney could trade in cap space to keep kids like Gulden , Treacy with the extra cap space rather that use it on a kid that will struggle to get games at these clubs with their depth and youth.

Its a Win Win imo provided their are strict guide lines on the amounts that clubs could trade in or out
e.g $3,000,000 over any 3 year period

 

[Dr Tigris]

Cap trading is a horrendous idea tho. Yes, floor could be lower. But the afl is riddled with advantages where teams rig the system for mutual benefit - free agent compensation for instance. Adding another one where a good team just buys an advantage is an awful idea

If a team is smart when they are down the bottom, they don't overpay their young guys and get extra/better picks, and so can build a more sustainable and 'better' squad.
At the top they trade out getting in young talent for paying more for the here and now.

Both win.

It's the teams that overpay for mediocrity that lose with cap trading. And, I guess, teams at the bottom that simply don't rebuild well.

Right now a team like Richmond would have to overpay to meet the cap floor. That doesn't help player development.

Cap trading is a good idea, if you can manage it all well. If you can't then it is just another thing that will screw you. Across the board good management is the key to long term performance. This just allows teams to manage their situation better. And also to do it worse. I can see teams buying some measure of success and then finding themselves without young talent, then a long period of rebuilding. And I can see some teams buying picks and never developing.

 

[Profop]

I think I’d personally prefer the max you have to spend be lowered and the ability to bank that unspent cap for use in future years extended

Just sits a bit better with me then teams actively helping opponents with increased cap space

 

[LukeParkerno1]

No thanks to that sort of trading just benefits top sides with resources it’s asking for manipulation.

Much rather an ability to lower your cap floor (say 5 years max) which can be banked in the future.

 

[FB19]

There’s a lot of people who want the AFL to control everything that’s the current problem why everything is so convoluted they are power junkies. Just give the clubs all the tools and let them have at it and if they screw up so be it. Forcing clubs to hold certain picks and pay most of the cap like the tigers who have no one to pay is ludicrous.
The loser of trade week was West Coast. The winner of draft week also West Coast through some incredible luck.

 

[eaglevision]

The loser of trade week was West Coast. The winner of draft week also West Coast through some incredible luck.

Couldn’t have put it better. Port and Saints also had a very, very good draft. Richmond then Crows had the best trade week, although I think the later will regret not keeping a list spot open for Dodson after sliding to pick 53.

 

[THE_GUN]

I think I’d personally prefer the max you have to spend be lowered and the ability to bank that unspent cap for use in future years extended

Just sits a bit better with me then teams actively helping opponents with increased cap space

No thanks to that sort of trading just benefits top sides with resources it’s asking for manipulation.

Much rather an ability to lower your cap floor (say 5 years max) which can be banked in the future.

Thats an option but kind of doesnt really work

North have been banking cap space for years and struggle to get quality players to come to the club even offering massive coin so they have to rebuild via the draft and go begging for PP.

With cap trading they have the ability to buy the picks and after being down for 6-7 years they could of had an extra 3 1st rounders on their list which would be very handy if they got the selections right

North have had a war chest since 2015 but no great free agents have taken the offers and were forced to pay average players star salaries

 

[Profop]

Thats an option but kind of doesnt really work

North have been banking cap space for years and struggle to get quality players to come to the club even offering massive coin so they have to rebuild via the draft and go begging for PP.

With cap trading they have the ability to buy the picks and after being down for 6-7 years they could of had an extra 3 1st rounders on their list which would be very handy if they got the selections right

North have had a war chest since 2015 but no great free agents have taken the offers and were forced to pay average players star salaries

Eh that sounds like a problem for North to fix internally rather than a league wide issue that needs a drastic rule change to address

 

[FB19]

Couldn’t have put it better. Port and Saints also had a very, very good draft. Richmond then Crows had the best trade week, although I think the later will regret not keeping a list spot open for Dodson after sliding to pick 53.

Yes Adelaide in some circles got an A for their draft it was horrendous. Take the player at 4 everyone said then miss out on the #1 ruck which is a dire need because you can’t or don’t trade in for a 40s pick. Then take your father son with your other pick. AI could have drafted for them and saved the salary and travel costs!

 

[eaglevision]

Yes Adelaide in some circles got an A for their draft it was horrendous. Take the player at 4 everyone said then miss out on the #1 ruck which is a dire need because you can’t or don’t trade in for a 40s pick. Then take your father son with your other pick. AI could have drafted for them and saved the salary and travel costs!

Especially when they had 3 x F3s to work with and seeing Brisbane traded 48 for WCE F3 and 51 for Dogs F3, both of which could have secured Dodson. Their list management was atrocious, allowing Brodie Smith to hit his games clause for an extension then promising to re-rookie both Schoenberg and Burgess.

The could have walked away with Draper, Dodson, Welsh, Knobel and one of Rhys Unwin or Evan Bradley, giving them two young rucks (one with two years under his belt) to develop under ROB and addressed their small forward issue hopefully freeing up Rachelle and Rankine to spend more time in the middle.

 

[THE_GUN]

Eh that sounds like a problem for North to fix internally rather than a league wide issue that needs a drastic rule change to address

Not for North but for all teams
Its a no brainer with the evolution of the game and its desire to get teams to be more competitive quicker
Helps bottom teams improve quicker and helps top team have another tool to retain players

 

[My_Username]

It's really not. It will widen the gap between the top and bottom teams and only incentivize bottom sides to go full scorched earth rebuild which then means 7+ year rebuilds and uncompetitive games.

But more worrying than anything it will widen the gap between the destination teams and the non destination teams.

Why would Geelong or Collingwood ever need an early draft pick if they can buy an extra 700k cap and a player every year? They'll just keep topping up year on year whilst teams down the bottom fool themselves in to thinking an extra pick 18 is going to help them get better whilst they're getting done by 10 goals each week.

And the teams in the middle who can't attract players as easily for on and mostly off field reasons will be squeezed

A cap is a cap. You can't muck around with it.

Yup.

The only variation I'd allow is within clubs (you can 'save' up cap space and use it in later years).

Even then, I'd have penalties (e.g. you can use 75% in later years), but I think the AFLPA would get upset at that.

 

[TradeDraft]

did anyone else bring in 3 all Australian premiership players?

Sadly there past there Best

 

[FB19]

Sadly there past there Best

The hawks brought Rodney Eade and Gary Ayres back does that count?