Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Fadge]

PinnochiArr0w doing what he does best - lying and gaslighting.

 

[Arr0w]

PinnochiArr0w doing what he does best - lying and gaslighting.

"Projecting" or "Conceding"?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

PinnochiArr0w doing what he does best - lying and gaslighting.

Are you ready to admit Saad is better than Quaynor Fudger? Walsh better than Cox? Acres better than Sidebottom?

Or are you gonna stick to your guns looking like a fool claiming the stats don't mean anything?

 

[Carringbush2010]

And Collingwood are no good at finals.

There's merit in this, yet somehow we've won more finals than any other club, played in more finals, won the equal most flags, and played in about a third of all grand finals. 16 more than the next closest, which is the blose and the bombouts. Source afl tables.

Yep you're right, we just do it by weight of numbers, we just bust damn walls, and when we win our flags we usually don't have the best list in it, just the best team, 90 and 23 are testament to that, we win em by weight of numbers.

It will continue, as we've done throughout the history of the comp, that's never swayed, usually contending and if not, setting for our next contention. Not gonna change now. Sorry not sorry.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Greatest chokers of all time

Even in the last 14 GF season appearances, won 3 lost 11

Apparently that's the swans, regardless, weight of numbers, that's how we're top of the tree.

 

[Carringbush2010]

We were up 71 to 32 from that point forward so technically we won more of the game.

And given Brisbane won the flag, and we beat them in more of the elimiation final, its not a stretch to consider Carlton the best team in the league.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Carlton, better in 2024, better since WWII

Add salt to that lemon

Meh.

Look at the whole competition, Pies better than any other club, there's some salt and lemon for you.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

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Imagine being proud that the team you got reamed by in an elim had enough energy left over to go on and win the whole thing

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[Chronz]

R

There's merit in this, yet somehow we've won more finals than any other club, played in more finals, won the equal most flags, and played in about a third of all grand finals. 16 more than the next closest, which is the blose and the bombouts. Source afl tables.

Yep you're right, we just do it by weight of numbers, we just bust damn walls, and when we win our flags we usually don't have the best list in it, just the best team, 90 and 23 are testament to that, we win em by weight of numbers.

It will continue, as we've done throughout the history of the comp, that's never swayed, usually contending and if not, setting for our next contention. Not gonna change now. Sorry not sorry.

I've done further investigations into Richmond and they only have 13 flags. What? This cannot possibly be right, the way they bang on around here you'd think they would have at least 30.

 

[Carringbush2010]

R

I've done further investigations into Richmond and they only have 13 flags. What? This cannot possibly be right, the way they bang on around here you'd think they would have at least 30.

TBF, they did enter the comp 8 years later, none the less we're still better than every other club over their respective times in the course of the competition, including the tigs.

	Flags	GF	Finals Won	Finals played	Years in comp	Total averages
Ade	2	3	18	36	33
Averages	0.0606	0.0909	0.5454	1.0909		1.7878
Bris	4	5	20	32	37
Averages	0.108	0.1351	0.54054	0.8648		1.6484
Collingwood	16	43	84	190	127
Averages	0.1259	0.3385	0.6614	1.496		2.6218
Carlton	16	29	67	143	127
Averages	0.1259	0.2283	0.5275	1.1259		2.0076
Essendon	16	28	69	132	127
Averages	0.1259	0.2204	0.5433	1.0393		1.9289
Fremantle	0	1	7	17	29
Averages	0	0.0344	0.2413	0.5862		0.8619
Geelong	10	19	60	134	127
Averages	0.0787	0.1496	0.4274	1.0551		1.7108
GC	0	0	0	0	13
Averages	0	0	0	0		0
GWS	0	1	9	18	12
Averages	0	0.0833	0.75	1.5		2.3333
Hawthorn	13	19	54	87	99
Averages	0.1313	0.1919	0.5454	0.8787		1.7473
Melbourne	13	18	54	94	127
Averages	0.1023	0.1417	0.4251	0.7401		1.4092
North Melbourne	4	9	35	75	99
Averages	0.0404	0.0909	0.3535	0.7575		1.2423
Port Adelaide	1	2	14	30	27
Averages	0.037	0.074	0.05185	1.1111		1.2739
Ricmond	13	24	56	94	116
Averages	0.112	0.2068	0.4827	0.8534		1.6549
St Kilda	1	7	22	55	127
Averages	0.0078	0.0551	0.1732	0.433		0.6691
Syd / Sth Melb	5	19	44	97	127
Averages	0.0393	0.1496	0.3464	0.7637		1.299
West Coast	4	7	26	55	37
Averages	0.1081	0.1891	0.7027	1.4864		2.4863
WB / Footscray	2	4	21	57	99
Averages	0.0202	0.0404	0.2121	0.5757		0.8484
Fitzroy	8	13	34	59	99
	0.0808	0.1313	0.3434	0.5959		1.1514

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can't see a Grand Finals choked column... How peculiar...

 

[Worm4]

Because I was definitely tossing

That's your problem, always got your hand on it

 

[Carringbush2010]

When was the last time you beat us in a grand final again? Anyone still alive from back then?

Meh, who cares, we're top of the tree.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Can't see a Grand Finals choked column... How peculiar...

Meh, who cares, we're top of the tree.

 

[Carringbush2010]

 

[Carringbush2010]

List of years since each team's most recent wooden spoon not possibly effected by the draft:

49 Collingwood
65 Richmond
never happened: Carlton

Yet again the pastries well off the pace.

Meh, who cares, we're top of the tree.

 

[Fadge]

Can't see a Grand Finals choked column... How peculiar...

Yeah, it's probably beyond you to perform a simple calculation of Grand Finals played - Grand Finals won, given in the simple world of Carlton supporters it is a 'choke' if you make a Grand Final and not win the flag.

Lucky Carlton haven't had the opportunity to 'choke' in a quarter of a century, isn't it?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Yeah, it's probably beyond you to perform a simple calculation of Grand Finals played - Grand Finals won, given in the simple world of Carlton supporters it is a 'choke' if you make a Grand Final and not win the flag.

Lucky Carlton haven't had the opportunity to 'choke' in a quarter of a century, isn't it?

Not sure where they get this idea that they're good in GFs anyway, certainly not in the AFL era

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[Cyclops]

Lot of bickering, let's compromise.

Pies will concede Carlton has a better list on paper. We promise we won't change thus even when the Pies beat them twice in the H&A.

Pies will also express support for the Blues making the 8 (so the Pies can make it 3 or even 4-0 for the year).

In return the Blues concede Curnow is a curly headed small game specialist, and when the Pies win the 2025 premiership they all get a Magpie tattooed on their arses.

We're reaching out the hand of friendship here.

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, it's probably beyond you to perform a simple calculation of Grand Finals played - Grand Finals won, given in the simple world of Carlton supporters it is a 'choke' if you make a Grand Final and not win the flag.

Lucky Carlton haven't had the opportunity to 'choke' in a quarter of a century, isn't it?

Carlton better in 2024, better over the last 80 years

Minnow

 

[Fadge]

Look at poor PinnochiArr0w, responding to my same post twice, craving for attention...

 

[Cyclops]

Carlton better in 2024, better over the last 80 years

Minnow

No need for maths on the main board nerd, Hawthorn board is thattaway

Pies better all time. Pies better right now.

 

[Arr0w]

No need for maths on the main board nerd, Hawthorn board is thattaway

Pies better all time. Pies better right now.

Another broken abacus

 

[Worm4]

Pies better right now.

 

[jakson68]

When was the last time you beat us in a grand final again? Anyone still alive from back then?

To be fair, you haven't even been in a GF since before the turn of the century.
It is hard for us to beat you in a GF, when we are still waiting for you to get there.