West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[Rich01]

Bizarre game to necro this thread.

Last issue Eagles had today was young talent.

I feel far more positive about our future than I did to be honest

Yep. Some good young talent on the list.

West Coast are too big and proud a club to go begging cap in hand for draft picks. They will most likely manufacture a top one through the Allen compo anyway.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Yep. Some good young talent on the list.

West Coast are too big and proud a club to go begging cap in hand for draft picks. They will most likely manufacture a top one through the Allen compo anyway.

And after watching Archer Reid go about it, not that fussed to lose Oscar for a too 3 pick (it appears the club are of the same view)

 

[Rich01]

And after watching Archer Reid go about it, not that fussed to lose Oscar for a too 3 pick (it appears the club are of the same view)

Yep, he can clunk his marks.
Shame about his set shot kicking.
Personally reckon he could be a gun CHB. And on the flip side I reckon the club would be more hopeful on Sdwards down back compared to what he’s shown this season.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Yep, he can clunk his marks.
Shame about his set shot kicking.
Personally reckon he could be a gun CHB. And on the flip side I reckon the club would be more hopeful on Sdwards down back compared to what he’s shown this season.

spot on about the goal kicking.

I can live with it, but in terms of everything else gives serious Thilthorpe vibes.

Thilthorpe will be the best forward if not best player in the comp in 1 or 2 years. Archer won’t be that, but has the ability to be a great player for us.

 

[big_e]

i haven’t said about academies, we are talking about priority picks here and you said they are needed for competition fairness which in my opinion priority picks are the total opposite of fairness.

Priority picks are fairer than academies and father son picks. The whole point of the draft is to get the best kids to the worst teams, and if you're really bad, you get some extra picks.

Whereas academies and father son picks see some of the best kids go to the best teams. Sam Darcy went at pick two to a side that had just played in a grand final - remind me how fair that is?

 

[Blackas87]

Priority picks are fairer than academies and father son picks. The whole point of the draft is to get the best kids to the worst teams, and if you're really bad, you get some extra picks.

Whereas academies and father son picks see some of the best kids go to the best teams. Sam Darcy went at pick two to a side that had just played in a grand final - remind me how fair that is?

I haven’t said anything about academies, the topic is priority picks.

I know what the point of the draft is, but the draft in itself isn’t fair.

The most successful team of the last 10 years gets exclusive rights to Sam Lalor who is a potential career long star just because they finished last one season? People think this system is fair?

Now you want to give extra exclusive rights to clubs for career long players?

Priority picks are like if Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world but the guy that keeps running 20th fastest in the world is allowed to take performance enhancing drugs to give himself a chance and call it equalisation and fairness.

 

[Bald]

The competition is set up in a way that should allow a team to win a premiership once every 18 years. They’ve been in 4 grand finals and won 2 premierships in 21 years, so I’m a bit unsure. I’m certainly against first round priority picks in that regard. In saying that..

I wouldn’t be opposed to West Coast having some assistance similar to what North received when trading for Griffin Logue, give the Eagles a pick that would allow them to trade in some leadership and experience without them needing to sacrifice their second round picks. With McGovern coming to the end, Yeo not getting on the park and uncertain futures around Reid, Kelly and Allen they’re probably not even at their worst yet and they’ve been historically bad for a while now.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

From an individual team's footballing perspective nobody needs a priority pick.

From a competition fairness and appearance perspective, absolutely they do.

Funny how it’s only WC supporters on this side.

Why didn’t Simpson trade Gaff, Shuey, Nic Nat etc for picks and get games into younger players? Couldn’t make the tough decisions, put his friendships before the club, and now WC is going to pay for it.

It’s almost like they didn’t understand the concept of a rebuild at all. It boggles one’s mind.

 

[Shueygod]

Funny how it’s only WC supporters on this side.

Why didn’t Simpson trade Gaff, Shuey, Nic Nat etc for picks and get games into younger players? Couldn’t make the tough decisions, put his friendships before the club, and now WC is going to pay for it.

It’s almost like they didn’t understand the concept of a rebuild at all. It boggles one’s mind.

Not even a believer is n priority picks but this it very clearly isn’t just west coast fans that believe in them.

When do you suggest they have traded those players? This is revision history, the team went from in the window to out very suddenly, largely to continual injuries. At which point the players had little value regardless. Also how many high value trades have been made against the players will throughout history? None.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Not even a believer is n priority picks but this it very clearly isn’t just west coast fans that believe in them.

When do you suggest they have traded those players? This is revision history, the team went from in the window to out very suddenly, largely to continual injuries. At which point the players had little value regardless. Also how many high value trades have been made against the players will throughout history? None.

It’s not revision history everyone knew they shouldn’t be playing guys that wouldn’t be part of the next push.

Forget the draft picks. Look what Sam Mitchell did with Hawthorn. Simmo would still have Tom Mitchell and Omeara running in the midfield.

 

[Cam Payne]

Given the AFL is run by the sort of people who think corporate welfare is the only true welfare, West Coast will get whatever they ask for.

 

[bzparkes]

Funny how it’s only WC supporters on this side.

Why didn’t Simpson trade Gaff, Shuey, Nic Nat etc for picks and get games into younger players? Couldn’t make the tough decisions, put his friendships before the club, and now WC is going to pay for it.

It’s almost like they didn’t understand the concept of a rebuild at all. It boggles one’s mind.

You've really gotten jaded about WCE after jumping ship to GC, eh?

 

[kranky al]

No chance of getting a PP.

You shouldn’t get rewarded for stupidity.
If you make idiotic decisions like trading pick 14 for Liam Baker, then you don’t deserve one.

You haven’t watched any west coast games this year have you?

Be pretty much a shoe in for f and b so far. You can’t just throw kids to the wolves in the midfield or they get melbourned.

The only other mature body mid we have is yeo and he’s hardly on the park.

 

[Forward Press]

Worse than Fitzroy.

Gimme gimme gimme.

 

[Obeanie1]

I haven’t said anything about academies, the topic is priority picks.

I know what the point of the draft is, but the draft in itself isn’t fair.

The most successful team of the last 10 years gets exclusive rights to Sam Lalor who is a potential career long star just because they finished last one season? People think this system is fair?

Now you want to give extra exclusive rights to clubs for career long players?

Priority picks are like if Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world but the guy that keeps running 20th fastest in the world is allowed to take performance enhancing drugs to give himself a chance and call it equalisation and fairness.

That is a really dumb example.

How about the fastest bloke in world and current world champion is allowed to take performance enhancing drugs because the organisation running the comp wants more African Americans watching the sport on TV

But the Aussie runner who no one cares about isn't allowed the same performance enhancing help. Because no-one cares about fast runners from Australia finishing last and the small TV audience.

What a great competition.

 

[Forward Press]

In all seriousness though, no.

We have the talent coming through now, it took probably a bit too long but we've finally acknowledged we are in a full rebuild and importantly it was the young players on the weekend that were our best and showed plenty.

 

[Blackas87]

That is a really dumb example.

How about the fastest bloke in world and current world champion is allowed to take performance enhancing drugs because the organisation running the comp wants more African Americans watching the sport on TV

But the Aussie runner who no one cares about isn't allowed the same performance enhancing help. Because no-one cares about fast runners from Australia finishing last and the small TV audience.

What a great competition.

I don’t understand this comparison, who are the African Americans in the AFL getting a priority pick and who are the Australians no one cares about in the AFL?

 

[Obeanie1]

Funny how it’s only WC supporters on this side.

Why didn’t Simpson trade Gaff, Shuey, Nic Nat etc for picks and get games into younger players? Couldn’t make the tough decisions, put his friendships before the club, and now WC is going to pay for it.

It’s almost like they didn’t understand the concept of a rebuild at all. It boggles one’s mind.

Are sides with unrestricted academies forced to push out good players to rebuild?

No they don't.

Barrass got a shove.

Looks like Allen is as well.

As did Darling.

Expect similar with Kelly as well.

So no we didn't gut the list when we believed we were contending.

Now the tough calls are being made. Shame all clubs aren't equal because lucky clubs with unrestricted academies aren't forced to cut quality veterans very often.

 

[madjoe]

2021 draft was awful for them, chesser at 14 must still hurt so much WA talent around at that pick. missing soligo or johnston at 21. ouchhhh

 

[Obeanie1]

I don’t understand this comparison, who are the African Americans in the AFL getting a priority pick and who are the Australians no one cares about in the AFL?

Are you acting dumb?

It's pretty obvious if you use a couple of brain cells.

The Lions are the current world champs. Reigning premiers. You got that?

The academies are the performance enhancing drugs they are allowed to take to keep improving. Not a hard concept.


Queenslander's are the fans who the comp organisers want more of to watch the TV.

So the Qld team and current champion gets access to performance enhancing advantages (academies) other teams are not allowed to access.

Pretty simple analogy to follow.

 

[Purple Suit]

Are sides with unrestricted academies forced to push out good players to rebuild?

No they don't.

Barrass got a shove.

Looks like Allen is as well.

As did Darling.

Expect similar with Kelly as well.

So no we didn't gut the list when we believed we were contending.

Now the tough calls are being made. Shame all clubs aren't equal because lucky clubs with unrestricted academies aren't forced to cut quality veterans very often.

You waited too long to do this though and signed them up for too long. Had you identified that you lacked mid age talent you would have seen the cliff approaching or pulled a Richmond in 2022 when you had confirmed you were terrible. Instead you tried to do it other ways which have failed or are not looking good.

I’m not sure you have hit rock bottom yet and you are 4 years into the rebuild.

 

[WeaponX]

Are sides with unrestricted academies forced to push out good players to rebuild?

No they don't.

Barrass got a shove.

Looks like Allen is as well.

As did Darling.

Expect similar with Kelly as well.

So no we didn't gut the list when we believed we were contending.

Now the tough calls are being made. Shame all clubs aren't equal because lucky clubs with unrestricted academies aren't forced to cut quality veterans very often.

100% this, Barrass was an incredible Intercept mark but just dump kicked it back down the line and it would always come straight back whereas McGovern would place kick to a team mate after a big mark. Oscar is shot mentally and physically, Darling just lost his way back in about 2019 and well Kelly he never found his way.

 

[Obeanie1]

You waited too long to do this though and signed them up for too long. Had you identified that you lacked mid age talent you would have seen the cliff approaching or pulled a Richmond in 2022 when you had confirmed you were terrible. Instead you tried to do it other ways which have failed or are not looking good.

I’m not sure you have hit rock bottom yet and you are 4 years into the rebuild.

Maybe so.

But what has that got to do with the current premiers getting a leg up and that's all fine.

But clubs struggling get SFA assistance and are actually hampered by successful clubs getting leg ups?

And as soon as a priority pick is mentioned to even the ledger posters attack the teams at the bottom who don't get any special assistance. Unlike the premiers.

 

[JackOutback]

I wish there were no priority picks for anyone, but when we finished last, we ended up with picks 1 and 30, while teams that made the top four nabbed first round picks using academies and father-sons. Other teams that have been poor have been given priority picks. West Coast are making their way out of this, priority picks or not, but it would hasten the rebuild. The point of the draft was fairness but it is so compromised now that I would have no qualms taking a priority pick.

 

[lmach]

You've really gotten jaded about WCE after jumping ship to GC, eh?

He's a weak individual.