News Welcome to Hawthorn : Arryn Siposs

[cryptor]

My only issue is that on face value we have another inexperienced coach joining the ranks. Simpson was a first timer and our backline went from a strength to a weakness.

However Siposs is a development coach and we don't even know what areas he will be helping with developing, so it's too early to whine about it. Especially when we don't know what other candidates may have been available.

I see your point and I don't disagree. But also the club has in parallel made the move to address this (ie. the inherent weakness of an inexperienced coach) by bringing in Ratten to help develop the coaches themselves.

 

[Colloquy]

I see your point and I don't disagree. But also the club has in parallel made the move to address this (ie. the inherent weakness of an inexperienced coach) by bringing in Ratten to help develop the coaches themselves.

Feel we should have got another coach from a successful club so we could have new intel from a winning club.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Does a development coach sit in the box on game day?

 

[cryptor]

Feel we should have got another coach from a successful club so we could have new intel from a winning club.

Easier said than done though.

An experienced assistant coach at a successful club is already working with and learning from a successful senior coach within an established high performing program.

From a coaching career perspective their chances of moving into a senior coaching role themselves one day are better if they remain where they are and continue to be associated with success.

 

[HawthornHawk]

If Siposs is ‘pretty disappointing’ then give me a list of who we should have appointed.

We have lost an 8 year line coach, replaced by a guy who has been overseas kicking a pointy ball for the past few years.

It's great to have Ratts back, but he wasn't brought in to be a line coach.

I would hope that we had a red hot crack at Xavier Clarke for example.

 

[HawthornHawk]

Dude, Ratten is a huge get.

As can be seen in the footage on Social Media, he is going to be quite hands on and still do a lot of coaching. We have a great balanced team of younger heads (Mitchell, Hale, Simpson, Littlejohn) and experience (Ratten, McCartney, Collins, Hickmott).

Agree, but he's not Newman's replacement

 

[KermitJagger]

We have lost an 8 year line coach, replaced by a guy who has been overseas kicking a pointy ball for the past few years.

It's great to have Ratts back, but he wasn't brought in to be a line coach.

I would hope that we had a red hot crack at Xavier Clarke for example.

Newman wasn't replaced by Siposs. We've restructured the coaching team, removed the dedicated contest coach role and put the very experienced Hickmott in with the forwards.

Siposs is a development coach, probably because of his experience in other elite environments in other sports. There's knowledge to be gained there.

 

[KermitJagger]

Poaching current assistants for IP is useful if you're trying to emulate another club, but it's pretty obvious that Sammy is prioritising doing things his way for now. It's probably better for him to work with blank slates, so to speak - or at least guys like Hickmott who would be on the same page already.

I'm sure if it gets to the point where we're playing Sam's way and it's still not working he'll look for IP elsewhere.

 

[crazywildhorse]

Hope he can bring back the torp!

 

[wahawk]

So I take it we weren't able to secure a replacement for Newman? Pretty disappointing

Head to Hawthorn in the Media thread.
Sam Mitchell interview & he mentions Siposs at the end

 

[brad sue well]

Arryn Siposs, Hawthorn Development Coach (06.12.23) - SEN Breakfast

The benchmark when it comes to football: Garry Lyon, Nathan Buckley, Tim Watson, Kane Cornes and David King's expertise and insight sets the agenda each morning as they bring Melbourne the biggest names in both the AFL and sporting landscape. Catch SEN Breakfast broadcast every morning on 1116...

pca.st

 

[HedgeFund]

My only issue is that on face value we have another inexperienced coach joining the ranks. Simpson was a first timer and our backline went from a strength to a weakness.

However Siposs is a development coach and we don't even know what areas he will be helping with developing, so it's too early to whine about it. Especially when we don't know what other candidates may have been available.

Two clicks and you will find Siposs has spent the past 6 years studying teaching, whilst also playing AFL, college football and NFL.

2016 - 2020 Bachelor of Teaching and Exercise Science with ACU crossing over to a Bachelor of Education from Auburn University between 2018 - 2022 whilst punting at college and then professionally.

That level of tertiary education is a huge standout compared to most AFL coaches, many of whom never studied beyond finishing high school, and then transitioned to coaching purely on the basis of the football CV and doing the level 1 course (which can be done in a couple of days). As a bonus, it's in teaching.

How many other AFL coaches have 2 tertiary degrees in teaching / education? Answer: probably none, but maybe one or two at most

Not only has Arryn spent years in the US college / professional football system, he has contemporary qualifications in education, teaching and exercise science. This always requires practical experience as a classroom teacher in order to get the qualifications.

I think it's a very shrewd move and he will be able to assist our "non-teaching" coaches, which is basically everyone except Collins, in refining their method of delivery of message and educating what we all agree is a very young list in need of clear messaging and communication.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Two clicks and you will find Siposs has spent the past 6 years studying teaching, whilst also playing AFL, college football and NFL.

2016 - 2020 Bachelor of Teaching and Exercise Science with ACU crossing over to a Bachelor of Education from Auburn University between 2018 - 2022 whilst punting at college and then professionally.

That level of tertiary education is a huge standout compared to most AFL coaches, many of whom never studied beyond finishing high school, and then transitioned to coaching purely on the basis of the football CV and doing the level 1 course (which can be done in a couple of days). As a bonus, it's in teaching.

How many other AFL coaches have 2 tertiary degrees in teaching / education? Answer: probably none, but maybe one or two at most

Not only has Arryn spent years in the US college / professional football system, he has contemporary qualifications in education, teaching and exercise science. This always requires practical experience as a classroom teacher in order to get the qualifications.

I think it's a very shrewd move and he will be able to assist our "non-teaching" coaches, which is basically everyone except Collins, in refining their method of delivery of message and educating what we all agree is a very young list in need of clear messaging and communication.

wont stop the drop kicks from jumping to conclusions
Instead of giving someone the benefit of doubt one might may have since they are not as close to the action nor have all the details, it is easier to just be critical.

I almost drove off the road early this morning when some numpty called into SEN and said Hawthorn has lost its way because of the Siposs appointment. The SEN hosts assumed it was a Hawthorn supporter but I didnt think such a dullard could exist amongst us.

The hosts were somewhat stunned, but when they queried why, the response was linked to Siposs's lack of mental strength and how could he possibly teach others because when he miskicked under pressure.

 

[lyger]

Arryn Siposs, Hawthorn Development Coach (06.12.23) - SEN Breakfast

The benchmark when it comes to football: Garry Lyon, Nathan Buckley, Tim Watson, Kane Cornes and David King's expertise and insight sets the agenda each morning as they bring Melbourne the biggest names in both the AFL and sporting landscape. Catch SEN Breakfast broadcast every morning on 1116...

pca.st

Thank you for sharing, that was a good listen.

Hopefully he will do another interview next year.

 

[Yardie]

because when he miskicked under pressure.

I hate Philly, but his "miskick" was returned for 62 yards after a missed tackle.

 

[HedgeFund]

…..The hosts were somewhat stunned, but when they queried why, the response was linked to Siposs's lack of mental strength and how could he possibly teach others because when he miskicked under pressure.

How could Clarkson possibly coach flags when he never played in one?

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

I hate Philly, but his "miskick" was returned for 62 yards after a missed tackle.

I don’t know what actually happened as I have no interest in NFL, I was repeating what the SEN host said.

so basically his teammates were also useless in making any tackles

 

[arupist]

I hate Philly, but his "miskick" was returned for 62 yards after a missed tackle.

Should have played Vince Papale.

 

[play2win]

How could Clarkson possibly coach flags when he never played in one?

That’s simple, but you need to understand that clarko has not coached a flag without Sam Mitchell’s involvement, it’s like an epiphany from the clouds.

 

[OsakaHawk]

Two clicks and you will find Siposs has spent the past 6 years studying teaching, whilst also playing AFL, college football and NFL.

2016 - 2020 Bachelor of Teaching and Exercise Science with ACU crossing over to a Bachelor of Education from Auburn University between 2018 - 2022 whilst punting at college and then professionally.

That level of tertiary education is a huge standout compared to most AFL coaches, many of whom never studied beyond finishing high school, and then transitioned to coaching purely on the basis of the football CV and doing the level 1 course (which can be done in a couple of days). As a bonus, it's in teaching.

How many other AFL coaches have 2 tertiary degrees in teaching / education? Answer: probably none, but maybe one or two at most

Not only has Arryn spent years in the US college / professional football system, he has contemporary qualifications in education, teaching and exercise science. This always requires practical experience as a classroom teacher in order to get the qualifications.

I think it's a very shrewd move and he will be able to assist our "non-teaching" coaches, which is basically everyone except Collins, in refining their method of delivery of message and educating what we all agree is a very young list in need of clear messaging and communication.

Hi Arryn

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Two clicks and you will find Siposs has spent the past 6 years studying teaching, whilst also playing AFL, college football and NFL.

2016 - 2020 Bachelor of Teaching and Exercise Science with ACU crossing over to a Bachelor of Education from Auburn University between 2018 - 2022 whilst punting at college and then professionally.

That level of tertiary education is a huge standout compared to most AFL coaches, many of whom never studied beyond finishing high school, and then transitioned to coaching purely on the basis of the football CV and doing the level 1 course (which can be done in a couple of days). As a bonus, it's in teaching.

How many other AFL coaches have 2 tertiary degrees in teaching / education? Answer: probably none, but maybe one or two at most

Not only has Arryn spent years in the US college / professional football system, he has contemporary qualifications in education, teaching and exercise science. This always requires practical experience as a classroom teacher in order to get the qualifications.

I think it's a very shrewd move and he will be able to assist our "non-teaching" coaches, which is basically everyone except Collins, in refining their method of delivery of message and educating what we all agree is a very young list in need of clear messaging and communication.

Every coach needs to start somewhere. Sounds like he's done all the ground work outside of coaching, he just needs to make the most of his chance.

 

[peetoo]

Hi Arryn

Smart enough to realise he’d work as hfc in 10 years time when he created his bigfooty account in 2012?

 

[cryptor]

Smart enough to realise he’d work as hfc in 10 years time when he created his bigfooty account in 2012?

Strategic genius

 

[Topiary]

We have lost an 8 year line coach, replaced by a guy who has been overseas kicking a pointy ball for the past few years.

It's great to have Ratts back, but he wasn't brought in to be a line coach.

I would hope that we had a red hot crack at Xavier Clarke for example.

Ratten was not bought in to be a line coach.

 

[Tony3163]

Hi Arryn