Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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Yeh I get that, but where do they go? Georgia, China; They're not getting Ukrainian language schools anywhere tbh.

We gave Vietnamese kids english language school, a war crime? probably, but here we are
WTF they go back to Ukraine.
They will get Ukrainian language school in Kiev in Lviv. They even get Ukrainian school
in Adelaide .
 

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They're from an area of Ukraine that has been in a civil war for more than a decade. Yeh just throw them into Lviv, nothing bad could happen
They are Ukrainian children, just because Russia sent separatists into the Donbas etc and niw has invaded and stolen the land and killed civilians.
Stop making excuses for stealing children which are war crimes.
I get the feeling you are susceptible to Russian propaganda. Are you Russian. Perhaps who supports the invasion.
Pathetic.
Stop making excuses.
 
They are Ukrainian children, just because Russia sent separatists into the Donbas etc and niw has invaded and stolen the land and killed civilians.
Stop making excuses for stealing children which are war crimes.
I get the feeling you are susceptible to Russian propaganda. Are you Russian. Perhaps who supports the invasion.
Pathetic.
Stop making excuses.
So yeh they've been under separatist rule for a decade. Would they be ok in Lviv?
 
Trying to sane wash Putin are you?
My mother in law told us tales about Russian soldiers . Barbarians thieves rapists.
No, I don't care for Putin. The USSR defeating the nazi's was a good thing for the world though

Where was your mum from?*

*The soviets were barbaric in there re take of eastern Europe, they had some motive tbf
 
They're from an area of Ukraine that has been in a civil war for more than a decade. Yeh just throw them into Lviv, nothing bad could happen
You’re trying hard to justify kidnapping children. These children will be Ukraine’s stolen/lost generation.
They would be ok in Lviv because “russia is not targeting civilians”.

In areas under Russian occupation, the Kremlin is imposing an openly imperialistic school curriculum that denies the legitimacy of Ukrainian statehood and underlines the Russian government’s commitment to erasing Ukrainian identity altogether. The same, if not worse, is being done to Ukrainian children in russia.
 
A Russian investigation into the Crocus Music Hall terrorist attack has found that it was indeed an ISIS attack and not connected to Ukraine.

Putin had originally suggested that was evidence of a Ukrainian involvement.

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Sticking with the Russia/Putin line i note
Again you keep forgetting that Russia illegally invaded Ukraine
Amazing the deflection isn’t it when they’re ambivalent towards Russian war crimes.

Apparently it’s all a beat up!
 
They're from an area of Ukraine that has been in a civil war for more than a decade. Yeh just throw them into Lviv, nothing bad could happen

False statement. There's no civil war in Donbass. Only fascist Russian occupiers since 2014.

There's a reason the place had to be occupied with mass Russian troops. Can't have the local Ukranian population dating to speak Ukrainian pr display a Ukrainian flag in Ukraine.

The place is a lawless cesspit of human rights abuses, torture & war crimes.

All to satisfy a fascist dictator who can't handle Ukrainians rejecting his fascist dream of a new Russian Empire.

Either you're forced to post nonsense defending this or you have serious issues. Only way to explain your posts.
 

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No, I don't care for Putin. The USSR defeating the nazi's was a good thing for the world though

Where was your mum from?*

*The soviets were barbaric in there re take of eastern Europe, they had some motive tbf
Do you know how many basis there are in Russia, in Europe, in the US even in Australia. Should Putin invade all those countries too. The AZOV stuff was a big con, an excuse to invade. He has shown he wants to destroy Ukrainians, their culture , the whole of Ukraine and undercut for Russia’s needs.
Look at the Ukrainian ekection results to see how many voted for the nazi party. Of course in the US we actually have the Nazi party in power, yet Putin wants to be a ‘friend’ to America.
Your argument falls apart in every way. Stop being conned by psyops.

No, I don't care for Putin. The USSR defeating the nazi's was a good thing for the world though

Where was your mum from?*

*The soviets were barbaric in there re take of eastern Europe, they had some motive tbf
Perehinsk
And no, barbarism against women and children there is zero excuse zero.
 
Ukraine has 1000 Russian soldiers encircled in the Independent People's Republic of Belgorod:


Wonder if Orange Mussolini will call Zelensky and ask him to spare their lives like he asked Putin to spare the lives of those poor encircled Ukrainian troops (that never was)…
 

Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated


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