Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion Part 2

[sr36]

Well you know that the WA football commission is only a branch in a certain tree.

WAFC is basically part of the WA government.

So the WA govt is part of the AFL vicbias conspiracy?

 

[Freomaniac]

So the WA govt is part of the AFL vicbias conspiracy?

Nah.... Part of the North bias one

 

[Freomaniac]

And if he had of played, Port would now be training for the Grand Final.

The AFL hate Port.

The AFL hate Port but the AFL loves Ken Hinkley. Work that one out. Lol

 

[Outtatym]

Funny that. Yet not many Victorians want a 3rd WA or 4th WA club in the AFL.

There is 7 million people in Victoria for 10 clubs. So 700,000 on average per club.

WA has 2.8 million. That will hit 3 million easily by the end of this decade

Anyone says it's not viable or can't get new fans or win over some eagles or dockers fans is bull sh**

It would if been perfect to bring this 3rd WA club in 2014ish with Subiaco oval being used.

Not many West Australian's want one either.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So the WA govt is part of the AFL vicbias conspiracy?

 

[The 747]

Funny that. Yet not many Victorians want a 3rd WA or 4th WA club in the AFL.

I highly doubt any Victorians would care if there was a 3rd or 4th WA club.

Here, we care about the club we support instead of waving pom poms for our state.

 

[Freomaniac]

Not many West Australian's want one either.

I do if that means dockers face them twice and eagles twice. That means 13 home state games each season, just like the SA clubs.

You don't hear North Melbourne fans complaining about having 9 other teams based in their home state of Victoria

 

[Freomaniac]

Adelaide and Port get the biggest HGA of all clubs
13 games at home. 11 against interstate sides.
Unarguable fact = SABias.

Going by that fact.... Geelong is the only club to play home games on Kardinia.

 

[Freomaniac]

The WA whinging and SA sooking really should be directed at the teams who get the leg up from the AFL.

Not sure how anybody can think the AFL is looking after StK, North, Melbourne or WBulldogs?


Geelong's advantage is that the VIC Govt built them a new stadium, so they get a much better stadium deal than ALL Melbourne based teams.

They also have the geographical benefit from the one team, one town (well really entire surf coast) which is attractive to many players from that area.

Hawthorn properly embraced Tassie, North never really did. It provided them a unique advantage...despite travelling and playing away from Melbourne 10 times per season.

Once Tassie are introduced, they may find themselves dudded back at Marvel.

Yep, Eddie getting us the good commercial deal that locked in 14 MCG home games. It was a brilliant move.

Back in the 2000s, Richmond had some years where they only had 9 MCG games...the good old VICBias coming through again.


Yes.

Adelaide and Port both play 13 games at AO, only the Saints get similar volume of games at Marvel.

Adelaide and Port both play "home" finals at AO, no Marvel tenant gets "home" finals at Marvel.

Adelaide and Port both play 10 games outside of Adelaide, in 2024 North played 11 games outside of Melbourne.

Thur/Fri night games - Adelaide had 7 and Port had 6, WB had 6, StK had 4, North just 1

How are Marvel clubs getting better treatment?

So magpies get 14 home games at the MCG every year.... That is considered a genius move and fair.

SA clubs get a 13th home state game because of gather round it's an injustice and unfair. LoL

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I highly doubt any Victorians would care if there was a 3rd or 4th WA club.

Here, we care about the club we support instead of waving pom poms for our state.

Have a read of the third WA club thread. It's primarily Victorians who want it.

Apart from our Freo friend here, most WA people don't want one, and if you look back to media reports from 2006ish and 2015ish, years both Eagles and Dockers were doing well, that's when it raises its head in the mainstream (Victorian) media.

I do want a Tassie team, but generally speaking there should be fewer clubs all round.

 

[Outtatym]

I do if that means dockers face them twice and eagles twice. That means 13 home state games each season, just like the SA clubs.

You don't hear North Melbourne fans complaining about having 9 other teams based in their home state of Victoria

Because it's always been that way. It was the VFL comp. I would love for North to be one of 2 sides in a population of 7 million.
The WA sides have a monopoly when 50% of the football public in the state goes for one side or the other. Can charge what they want if they have a waiting list for seats.
As someone already mentioned, the WA footy suits are against it for this reason.

If it's about home games they have already started buying them off North - if they are smart they will use their coin on another gather round.

 

[doppleganger]

So magpies get 14 home games at the MCG every year.... That is considered a genius move and fair.

SA clubs get a 13th home state game because of gather round it's an injustice and unfair. LoL

Pies normally only 4-5 home games with an actual advantage against a non-vic team.

Pies normally get 4 "home" and 5 "away" games at the G against other Vic teams. These are the neutral showdowns. The Pies playing Melbourne, Carlton or Richmond at the G isn't an advantage to either side.

SA teams have two neutral games against the other SA team. But then 11 games with an advantage against a travelling opponent.

Getting 11 games with a genuine home ground advantage is a huge advantage. They don't play 11 away games at opponents preferred home ground.

WA sides now in same boat thanks to the North deal.

 

[peetoo]

I do if that means dockers face them twice and eagles twice. That means 13 home state games each season, just like the SA clubs.

You don't hear North Melbourne fans complaining about having 9 other teams based in their home state of Victoria

The more teams in the AFL, the more chance they only play each other once

 

[Freomaniac]

The more teams in the AFL, the more chance they only play each other once

Well I don't mind if the regular season increases to 24 or even 26 games

 

[Freomaniac]

Pies normally only 4-5 home games with an actual advantage against a non-vic team.

Pies normally get 4 "home" and 5 "away" games at the G against other Vic teams. These are the neutral showdowns. The Pies playing Melbourne, Carlton or Richmond at the G isn't an advantage to either side.

SA teams have two neutral games against the other SA team. But then 11 games with an advantage against a travelling opponent.

Getting 11 games with a genuine home ground advantage is a huge advantage. They don't play 11 away games at opponents preferred home ground.

WA sides now in same boat thanks to the North deal.

Look if you want a home ground advantage, move to outside of Victoria like Tassie or Cairns or Darwin. You get 11 home games every season and have a city for yourself

 

[sr36]

Pies normally only 4-5 home games with an actual advantage against a non-vic team.

Pies normally get 4 "home" and 5 "away" games at the G against other Vic teams. These are the neutral showdowns. The Pies playing Melbourne, Carlton or Richmond at the G isn't an advantage to either side.

SA teams have two neutral games against the other SA team. But then 11 games with an advantage against a travelling opponent.

Getting 11 games with a genuine home ground advantage is a huge advantage. They don't play 11 away games at opponents preferred home ground.

WA sides now in same boat thanks to the North deal.

One of them is in Bunbury, so less travel, but only one WA team gets the extra home ground advantage game.

 

[doppleganger]

Look if you want a home ground advantage, move to outside of Victoria like Tassie or Cairns or Darwin. You get 11 home games every season and have a city for yourself

If wanting to finish top 2 on H&A ladder, you do want the home ground advantage and less games in Melbourne.

 

[Freomaniac]

If wanting to finish top 2 on H&A ladder, you do want the home ground advantage and less games in Melbourne.

And if you are Collingwood, you want a non Victorian side in the grand final.

 

[doppleganger]

And if you are Collingwood, you want a non Victorian side in the grand final.

???
AFL era in GFs

Pies are 1-4 against non Melbourne teams
Pies are 2-0 against Melbourne teams

Pies want to play a Melbourne based team in a GF

 

[Freomaniac]

???
AFL era in GFs

Pies are 1-4 against non Melbourne teams
Pies are 2-0 against Melbourne teams

Pies want to play a Melbourne based team in a GF

Magpies have won 15 or 16 VFL or AFL Grand finals.

How many has Freo won?

 

[Freomaniac]

Pies normally only 4-5 home games with an actual advantage against a non-vic team.

Pies normally get 4 "home" and 5 "away" games at the G against other Vic teams. These are the neutral showdowns. The Pies playing Melbourne, Carlton or Richmond at the G isn't an advantage to either side.

SA teams have two neutral games against the other SA team. But then 11 games with an advantage against a travelling opponent.

Getting 11 games with a genuine home ground advantage is a huge advantage. They don't play 11 away games at opponents preferred home ground.

WA sides now in same boat thanks to the North deal.

So magpies getting 14 MCG games is fine and fair .

But crows and port hosting the gathering of the drunks at gather round is unfair

 

[doppleganger]

So magpies getting 14 MCG games is fine and fair .

But crows and port hosting the gathering of the drunks at gather round is unfair

Of the 14 MCG games 9-10 are neutral showdowns v other Vic teams.

Pies only host 4-5 non-vic teams each year in Melb
Pies travel to play a non-vic side on their home deck 5 times
Pies travel to play a neutral gather game in AO

We almost always travel more than we get to host a travelling team.

SA teams it is opposite, they always host more at home than they travel to play away

 

[peetoo]

So magpies getting 14 MCG games is fine and fair .

But crows and port hosting the gathering of the drunks at gather round is unfair

It’s an extra trip for WA teams

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Ah yes it must be tough to be the Pies.

It’s extremely harsh having them leaving vic twice over the last 3 months of the season. Must be really taxing on them.

Perhaps we can find some more advantages for them to even this out.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The only people in AFLdom that don't consider travel a burden are a couple of Collingwood fans in this thread