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Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion Part 2
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Well last time freo beat Collingwood at the MCG was in 2019.beating Cwood at the G is not a problem
Last time freo beat Collingwood outside of Victoria was in 2021 at Docklands.
I think the best analogy is to ask the Vic team supporters how the feel about the India playing at the one ground all through out the champions trophy.
I would have said India = Victoria or at least the big Victorian sides.
I would have said India = Victoria or at least the big Victorian sides.
Do you think this is a big gotcha moment for you?
Most Vics think the GF at the G is an advantage and would rather it moved.
So it's not really your gotcha moment, is it?
To tell you the truth, I would say reading all the threads like this, there are more non-Vics who would rather it stay at the G.
jannissary
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i don't really see the comparison. historic political issues making the venues in pakistan unsafe for indians is the same as collingwood playing in melbourne often. australia similarly avoided games in pakistan throughout the early - mid 2000s, does that mean australia as a team has a vic bias too
i don't really see the comparison. historic political issues making the venues in pakistan unsafe for indians is the same as collingwood playing in melbourne often. australia similarly avoided games in pakistan throughout the early - mid 2000s, does that mean australia as a team has a vic bias too
Would any other country have got away with no playing in Pakistan?
When did Australia go into a major tournament, and demand that they only play at one venue.
jannissary
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i think upon request, they likely would've. it's not surprising given the hostility held between the two countries, read a book about the history of pakistan and india and come back and tell me if you think it's a request that is worth accomodating. i don't agree with it but it's a fairly reasonable request to make.
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I don't recall a cyclone hitting Victoria. LoL
Cyclones have hit Darwin and Queensland.
Cyclone Tracy hit the Northern territory on Christmas Day in 1974
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Even the weather is outrageously biased towards the Vics.
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To be fair they didn't canvass all views. Darcy Moore declined to be interviewed for this segment unless they travelled to the MCG to film him
That's pretty conclusive evidence. Hard to argue against the blokes that are actually living it and are openly telling you it's real. Nice to see high profile players based in Victoria like Crippa and Danger being honest about it and admitting Vic bias is real.
So is Vic Bias an intended conspiracy by all Vics collectively? Do we all go to secret meetings to ensure non Vics don't succeed?
These are the questions that you really want answered.
Because if this conspiracy really is intended and not a theory then we may as well not have an A/Vfl. End thread
If it is unintended by way of market share etc. Etc. as has been explained eleventy billion times on this thread.
Then yes end thread
If non vics wanna carry on about, then carry on.
No, it's just that basically 2 Collingwood supporters in this thread think they're smarter than anyone else, despite your own coach and nearly all the AFL captains collectively admitting their is a bias for certain team.
So we all collectively agree that yes, there is Vic bias, so it's time you lot ferociously pretending there isn't one admitted there is and we all move on
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Question is so simple and there's so many layers to the belief or question that an answer says whatever you want it to say.
Is there Vicbias: yes (the national media is incredibly biased.)
See I told you that there's an incredible AFL conspiracy to rig all games and premierships for the Vic's - the captains agree about Vicbias.
There's no record of a cyclone ever hitting Victoria, but the records only go back to 1978 when the hall of records was mysteriously blown away.
Clip from: Hurricane Neddy
Oh, Lisa! There's no record of a hurricane ever hitting Springfield. Yes, but the records only go back to 1978, when the hall of records was mysteriously blown away.
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I see what you're saying. The term 'VICBias' probably has many different interpretations based on the individual's own experiences e.g. Danger was drawing on his experiences as a player for the Crows and Cats, whereas it sounded like Crippa was drawing on his experiences back in WA when he was younger and probably comparing them to his experiences at Carlton.
Generally speaking, it would appear that VICBias is real according to the vast majority of AFL captains in that video. I do think the players are the best source of information for this debate so their opinions shouldn't be overlooked in this debate. Beyond the general understanding amongst the players that VICBias does exist, it's probably a case by case basis in terms of what is specifically advantageous for Victorian teams/players.
Although what the players said in that video does seem like a bit of a breakthrough for this debate to have the overwhleming majority of captains acknowledge that it's a real thing. So now it's not so much a question of whether it exists, but rather how advantageous is it for the Victorian teams/players.
Some will argue even a 1% advantage could be the difference between winning a flag vs missing the top 4 OR finishing top 6 to secure a home final vs missing the top 8 altogether. We know last season was the tighest we've seen in a very long time (ever?) so we're only talking about small margins of difference between teams winning and losing.
sr36
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To know what captains think you need to drill down to what the captains mean by Vicbias.
To me there's undoubtedly a media bias towards vic, so giving a yes no to that question, I'd say yes.
But that's different to a competition bias, outside of the natural advantage of size, which to me the AFL rules are fighting against with salary cap, soft cap and draft rules.
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Sad thing is the Blues have been awful for nearly 30 years yet share the Pies big Vic club biases.
jannissary
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big fart i reckon
So two supporters (don't know who they are) out of how many vics to the rest of us who all agree the comp is lopsided in some ways to big vic clubs, for reasons that have been explained eleventy billion times already, and you and all the other non vics in here still can't move on.No, it's just that basically 2 Collingwood supporters in this thread think they're smarter than anyone else, despite your own coach and nearly all the AFL captains collectively admitting their is a bias for certain team.
So we all collectively agree that yes, there is Vic bias, so it's time you lot ferociously pretending there isn't one admitted there is and we all move on
So you've conceded that there's no secret deliberate conspiracy, talk about moving on, and here you are.
So two supporters (don't know who they are) out of how many vics to the rest of us who all agree the comp is lopsided in some ways to big vic clubs, for reasons that have been explained eleventy billion times already, and you and all the other non vics in here still can't move on.
So you've conceded that there's no secret deliberate conspiracy, talk about moving on, and here you are.
Huh? If most senior figures at clubland acknowledge there's a clear bias, we can all move on and the AFL can actually do something about it.
Going off 4 of the top 5 thread contributors however, indicates there's supporters from one big Vic club who are all too happy to keep the status quo.
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