NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 4

[Kurve]

Here is PART 3

Donald Trump was sworn in as president of the United States on Monday 20th January, 2025 in Washington DC.

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Anti-trans commentary will be deleted and warnings issued, that includes mockery and trying to pass it off as a joke.

Play nice, please.

 

[bourbons]

Cut the pretense. The very first post after you made the unprompted gesture of dispensing with mockery (a position I then immediately adopted and haven't yet resiled from) was full of mockery in its last paragraph.

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No mate, it wasn't.

Of course they were all lying when they said no classifed info mate, like what the ****

This is another expression of disbelief that anyone could look at the objective facts and come to the conclusion they weren't lying

Was straight up proved once Goldberg released the chats the day following Gabbard and Ratcliffe's testimony

This is providing the source of confirmation that they were in fact lying, along with the confused emoji because how could anyone discussing this topic have missed that

So this appears to be a chance to alter how we interact with each other and take some verified, objective facts on board in consideration of our positions, and possibly even learn something occasionally. Considering everything I've laid out above, is it still your contention that the chat contained no classified information?

This is a re-iteration of my offer to change the tone and engage in some evidence-based discussion.

So no mate, no mocking whatsoever. I hope you enjoyed the break though coz we're back on again now lol

It's like a drug mate.

No, its a completely reasonable response to someone operating in as bad a faith as you clearly are.

1. They both clearly stated there was no classified info on the chat
2. Chat released and it has timings of future strikes
3. Timings of future strikes are designated Top Secret classification per official policy

I'm sorry mate, but if someone looks at that and just goes "nah, no classified info" there's nothing else to be done with them. You had to be dragged kicking and screaming to it over multiple posts, but you have confirmed in your own words that objective facts, undisputed, are irrelevant to your beliefs and worldview. You're in good company with the MAGA crew there, but there is simply no helping someone who operates like that, mockery is all you deserve.

I note that you completely avoided responding to my point about there being differences in the DNI and DOD definitions BTW.

And you completely avoided my point that the Senate Intelligience Committee is Republican controlled, and therefore won't be sanctioning Trump appointees for literally anything ¯\(ツ)/¯

Not to worry though - apologies, just point me to the part of the DOD policy/definition that says timings of future strikes aren't classified.

dId yOu kNoW tHaT WaTeR iSn'T aCtUaLLy wEt!!??

 

[skipper kelly]

Tim Walz doubling down on failed policies.

The more pressing issue is, who goes to a Tim Walz rally? They have to be paid.

 

[bourbons]

rofl

Nah, the Houthis don't know they are the Houthis, nor where there own forces are located do they? Dig up mate!

Bloke you quoted (you sure love your twitter randoms lol) is copping an absolute hiding in the replies, much like the one I've just given you on it.

 

[skipper kelly]

I knew an importer/exporter. I'll try and hit him up about the tariffs. From memory I think he imported potato and corn chips and exported diapers.

 

[bourbons]

Jeffrey Goldberg. I couldn't work out if this was genuine or not for 5 days. Also JG, this was top secret, immediately identifiable war plans, attack plans, classified info. The Houthis would have been able to immediately determine this was real and not a simulation/war games and rendered the incoming 2 week bombing campaign ineffective .

No one's pretending them having the info would have rendered the 2 week bombing campaign ineffective - only that it would have increased risk to US personnel, specifically during the first strike, the timing of which was clearly stated in the chat.

The pretzel you continue to twist yourself into here is simply exquisite mate

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

rofl

Nah, the Houthis don't know they are the Houthis, nor where there own forces are located do they? Dig up mate!

Bloke you quoted (you sure love your twitter randoms lol) is copping an absolute hiding in the replies, much like the one I've just given you on it.

Doesn't look like a hiding to me.



You know the US is still bombing the Houthis don't you? Two & a half weeks now - 32 strikes and counting. Very big organisation with lots of targets in different locations. If they were all huddled in the one location like you seem to be insanely suggesting this could have all been over on day 1.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

No mate, it wasn't.

OK and I'm not mocking your claim right now.

 

[bourbons]

Doesn't look like a hiding to me.



You know the US is still bombing the Houthis don't you? Two & a half weeks now - 32 strikes and counting. Very big organisation with lots of targets in different locations. If they were all huddled in the one location like you seem to be insanely suggesting this could have all been over on day 1.

No I've never suggest that. I've suggested that the bombings would be targeted on positions that were threatening shipping - ya know, the thing the US is trying to stop?

Knowing that your forces are going to be bombed is better than not knowing your forces are going to be bombed, yes? Can I at least get you within shouting distance if reality on this one?

 

[bourbons]

OK and I'm not mocking your claim right now.

Yes mate, you've made it clear over the last few posts that you are a very dishonest person, this is not news

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

No I've never suggest that. I've suggested that the bombings would be targeted on positions that were threatening shipping - ya know, the thing the US is trying to stop?

Knowing that your forces are going to be bombed is better than not knowing your forces are going to be bombed, yes? Can I at least get you within shouting distance if reality on this one?

Let's try and see if you can get there. You do know that the US had CNN pre-positioned to stream the Shock and Awe strikes well before they fell don't you? That required more way information than this Signal group chat had in it. On the day these strikes were initiated Hegseth was involved in other discussions with other people on devices so secure that Signal can't even be installed on them. It's those discussions the Joint Chief was in on too and would have involved classified info rather than than this Signal chat that he didn't get involved in.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Yes mate, you've made it clear over the last few posts that you are a very dishonest person, this is not news

interesting. Looks to me like you're suggesting adding these emojis makes my post mockery while a few posts ago you were claiming the opposite was the case when it came to your own posts. So exactly who is the liar here?:

 

[bourbons]

Let's try and see if you can get there. You do know that the US had CNN pre-positioned to stream the Shock and Awe strikes well before they fell don't you? That required more way information than this Signal group chat had in it. On the day these strikes were initiated Hegseth was involved in other discussions with other people on devices so secure that Signal can't even be installed on them. Those discussions would involve classified info but the Signal group chat didn't.

Haha, you just. can't. do it

Not even a tacit acknowledgement that yes, obviously having some advance warning would be better than having no warning, no matter how your various forces are positioned and distributed. Not even this little sliver of objective reality can penetrate the mind palace, such is your ideological, partisan thrall. Legit incredible dude

And no, I don't think CNN had any cameras on the ground in near the Houthis in Yemen

 

[bourbons]

interesting. Looks to me like you're suggesting adding these emojis makes my post mockery while a few posts ago you were claiming the opposite was the case when it came to your own posts. So exactly who is the liar here?:

Wut

Errr no mate, the emojis have nothing to do with it. As I've very clearly explained in the post you've quoted here, its your approach and statements over your last handful of posts that confirm you're a dishonest operator

1. They both clearly stated there was no classified info on the chat
2. Chat released and it has timings of future strikes
3. Timings of future strikes are designated Top Secret classification per official policy

There is simply no way anyone operating in good faith can look at this and come to the conclusion you have, sorry mate its simply not possible.

You're a partisan hack and shill, you know you are. Just embrace it, go full Easty.

How are those DOD guidelines confirming that strike timings don't = classified coming along by the way?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

And no, I don't think CNN had any cameras on the ground in near the Houthis in Yemen

You don't realise that when I used the phrase Shock and Awe I was referring to the strikes against Iraq?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Yes mate, you've made it clear over the last few posts that you are a very dishonest person, this is not news

Fk me. You're admitted you've lied TODAY mate. TODAY.

 

[Mofra]

Outstanding stupidity

 

[bourbons]

You don't realise that when I used the phrase Shock and Awe I was referring to the strikes against Iraq?

Jeeeesus christ

Psychologically incapable of sticking to the actual topic, does that tell you anything about your argument at all? Just a never ending stream of tangents, deflections and whataboutsim, "hey look over there"

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Jeeeesus christ

Psychologically incapable of sticking to the actual topic, does that tell you anything about your argument at all? Just a never ending stream of tangents, deflections and whataboutsim, "hey look over there"

You want to stay on topic? It might help if you don't make ridiculous statements like this.

And no, I don't think CNN had any cameras on the ground in near the Houthis in Yemen

 

[Satan]

Outstanding stupidity

Cant wait for Caz to try to explain it at next press conference

 

[Mofra]

Cant wait for Caz to try to explain it at next press conference

Those Marshall Island penguins started it!

 

[faible]

No one's pretending them having the info would have rendered the 2 week bombing campaign ineffective - only that it would have increased risk to US personnel, specifically during the first strike, the timing of which was clearly stated in the chat.

The pretzel you continue to twist yourself into here is simply exquisite mate

If this was Hillary they'd have already demanded she be executed for treason.

 

[faible]

Cant wait for Caz to try to explain it at next press conference

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE WISDOM OF THE PRESIDENT

AND HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY ECONOMIC EXPERTISE

 

[bourbons]

Fk me. You're admitted you've lied TODAY mate. TODAY.

"Lied", rofl

I assume this fever dream is about Goldberg's claim re: the CIA chief of staff being an undercover agent? The thing I acknowledged I got wrong when you provided sourcing?

There's flailing then there's whatever this is, embarrassing stuff

 

[bourbons]

You want to stay on topic? It might help if you don't make ridiculous statements like this.

To be fair its hard to stay on target when your whataboutism stretches back the the ****ing Iraq war

Oh there were cameras there for the Iraq war, therefore Hegseth didn't just chat classified info regarding the Houthis. Rock solid through line and debate technique there knackers

Who the **** could work out what you're on about mate, you're all over the shop.

 

[Jbudds04v2]

Let's try and see if you can get there. You do know that the US had CNN pre-positioned to stream the Shock and Awe strikes well before they fell don't you? That required more way information than this Signal group chat had in it. On the day these strikes were initiated Hegseth was involved in other discussions with other people on devices so secure that Signal can't even be installed on them. It's those discussions the Joint Chief was in on too and would have involved classified info rather than than this Signal chat that he didn't get involved in.

I'll point out that Iraq were pretty well aware that there were a lot of troops, aircraft and carriers in the area. They didn't really need CNN or Signal for that....