Mega Thread Trade/Draft SuperMegaUltraThread - 2015 trade period edition

[Prem87]

If he doesn't break lines on the outside is he simply an inside midfielder?

 

[avishka5]

If he doesn't break lines on the outside is he simply an inside midfielder?

Not necessarily , he could play outside if he has a tank. He lools to be faster than both gaff and masten.

 

[wraglesweb]

Yeah lets just go outright speed and agility. 1st and 2nd pick: Cunningham and Rioli, 3rd pick: Mountford, 4th or rookie list: Markov

Redden Priddis Sheed Waterman dishing the ball out then why not have some speed ?

 

[mattyc75]

If he doesn't break lines on the outside is he simply an inside midfielder?

Or is he Brandt colledge?

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[2006_Eagles]

I can't see much wrong with Cuningham although I get the sense he didn't test that well (other than the 20m sprint). There were certainly a lot of other mids around an expected 20-40 draft range that seemed to do much better with the skills tests. Well that and he is missing an 'n' from his surname - maybe nobody can find him on their recruitment list because they can't spell his name correctly?

Bradd Dalziel stole the 'n' coz he likes unnecessary extra letters in his name

 

[Obeanie1]

Highlights are on http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

Expected to go 25+

Hopefully he's still around at 31. Looks the goods.

From those highlights it looks like he really knows how to burst free using his pace and then compose himself and weight his kicks nicely. He doesn't drill the kick he puts it out in front with just enough on it to let / make the leading forward hit the ball low and in front. That is a very nice skill / trait to have at such an early age.

Certainly wouldn't be disappointed with our second pick.

 

[swingdog]

Inside speed is as much about seeing space and running the right lines as it about pure pace. That's what I liked about the Cuningham vid.

It's what Judd used to do so well.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Too short IMO. As a contending team I can't see us picking him up, for his sake I hope someone else does but will most likely be a rookie selection.

I really don't see his height as being an issue.
Would you like Prestia in our side (different I know but height is not always an issue, good mark for size too)?...I think this guy is going to be one of the best from this draft.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Any love the man I picked up late in the mock draft for the dockers, Lachlan Tiziani.

Good size - 189cm, 79kgs
Great kick
Poise under pressure
Reasonable speed

Looks like a real goer too me.

Check out his video - http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

 

[wraglesweb]

Any love the man I picked up late in the mock draft for the dockers, Lachlan Tiziani.

Good size - 189cm, 79kgs
Great kick
Poise under pressure
Reasonable speed

Looks like a real goer too me.

Check out his video - http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

Looks good nice size !

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

for the Lovell fans what are your opinions on Melb refusing a F/S nomination and telling him they haven`t even got a rookie spot available .

Wasn't that Jake Lovett?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-...-by-demons-snub-but-wont-give-up-on-afl-dream

 

[eagles rule]

Dammit , my bad carry on haha

 

[avishka5]

Im fairly new to big footy but can u run a poll within this thread? would like to see who everyone wants to select with pick 23 (whatever it ends up being) and pick 31.

 

[iLikeIt]

Im fairly new to big footy but can u run a poll within this thread? would like to see who everyone wants to select with pick 23 (whatever it ends up being) and pick 31.

Not sure they can do more than one poll per thread. Like most people I've gone around in circles a bit over the past few weeks but yesterday I felt really comfortable with these preferences -

• pick 23 (ie ~28) - David Cuningham

  18yo Midfielder 184cm 80kg VIC
  Strengths: great pace, good composure under pressure, great leap, strong in traffic, good explosiveness, good shot for goal, clean hands, good decision maker, can kick off both feet
  Weaknesses: not quite AFL build/strength yet, contested marking could provide flexibility
  Will Need To: improve endurance, strengthen/bulk up
  Verdict: would likely develop quickly at WC, has the potential to become Shuey like, possible go home factor but will likely have built plenty of trade currency by then

• pick 31 (ie ~36) - Alex Morgan

  19yo Small Defender 181cm 79kg VIC
  Strengths: excellent pace and agility (topped the draft combine for speed), is deceptively fast on field, very composed under pressure (no doubt because of his speed but almost looks too relaxed), uses his fast change of direction continuously to give himself space (although that approach probably won't work as well for him under AFL pressure), seems to choose good outlets out of defence, willing to run and carry with the confidence he will beat his opponent, clean hands
  Weaknesses: not sure his endurance is AFL standard yet, only 181cm so slightly short for an AFL defender but might grow a bit more, doesn't have an AFL build/strength yet
  Will Need To: bulk up a bit whilst retaining speed, sharpen up kicking and get more penetration
  Verdict: if he were to get stronger and add explosive acceleration off a standing start he would be a gun off half back and as an outside mid

• pick 62 (ie ~56) - Declan Mountford

  18yo Midfielder 182cm 72kg WA
  Strengths: excellent endurance and pace (killed it at the draft combine), reliable hard working midfielder, clean hands, strong overhead, good decision maker, good kick, good shot for goal
  Weaknesses: not AFL build/strength yet
  Will Need To: strengthen/bulk up a lot, needs more explosiveness with running
  Verdict: underrated local boy who would be extremely passionate about joining WC, who we could take a year to develop most likely as an outside mid or possibly running inside mid

• pick 75 (ie ~65) - PASS

Yes I know, 3 midfielder types and they are all speedsters but looking at the draft I think a lot of other clubs will be looking at KPPs and there are pretty low stocks of those at our picks. It looks like the 2016 draft will likely have far more options for us, especially out of WA. We are definitely looking for premierships in the coming years and I think any of these guys could be close to an AFL debut the year after next with a good couple of pre-seasons and the experience of training in a premiership contending environment. And mids are also great trade currency, so if it gets too crowded on our list (which you would think it must) and they want out then I am sure we can get suitable compensation for them.

I think all three of these guys have enormous potential as they have the basic ingredients to make it a AFL level but need a fair bit more development and polish. Working in a balanced team environment with hard working mentors/role-models like Priddis and Shuey will have them developing quickly and having three speedsters from the same draft competing for attention can only be a good thing (thinking of the result of EMac, Schofield and Brown all from the 2006 draft).

 

[wraglesweb]

Yep we are interested !

 

[wraglesweb]

Not sure they can do more than one poll per thread. Like most people I've gone around in circles a bit over the past few weeks but yesterday I felt really comfortable with these preferences -

• pick 23 (ie ~28) - David Cuningham
• pick 31 (ie ~36) - Alex Morgan
• pick 62 (ie ~56) - Declan Mountford
• pick 75 (ie ~65) - PASS

Yes I know, 3 midfielder types and they are all speedsters but looking at the draft I think a lot of other clubs will be looking at KPPs and there are pretty low stocks of those at our picks. It looks like the 2016 draft will likely have far more options for us, especially out of WA. We are definitely looking for premierships in the coming years and I think any of these guys could be close to an AFL debut the year after next with a good couple of pre-seasons and the experience of training in a premiership contending environment. And mids are also great trade currency, so if it gets too crowded on our list (which you would think it must) and they want out then I am sure we can get suitable compensation for them.

I think all three of these guys have enormous potential as they have the basic ingredients to make it a AFL level but need a fair bit more development and polish. Working in a balanced team environment with hard working mentors/role-models like Priddis and Shuey will have them developing quickly and having three speedsters from the same draft competing for attention can only be a good thing (thinking of the result of EMac, Schofield and Brown all from the 2006 draft).

If somehow we managed to get Cole and Cunningham would be a huge win wouldn't mind in what order

 

[amazingjoshy]

Names Twomey has WC linked with in his top 30 article on AFL.com

Darcy Tucker
Ryan Clarke
Daniel Rioli
David Cunningham
Tom Cole

 

[Masto]

Names Twomey has WC linked with in his top 30 article on AFL.com

Darcy Tucker
Ryan Clarke
Daniel Rioli
David Cunningham
Tom Cole

Yep we should get a talent - just have to see which player slides to us. I think we are right at that sweet spot after which the players become very speculative.

 

[eagles rule]

Hope WCE will go Rioli at pick 23 he's a playing type that we lack since Fido .
Rioli is in the Newman ,Weedon Low 20's pick range that has failed so we are due to hit the jackpot soon .

 

[iLikeIt]

Names Twomey has WC linked with in his top 30 article on AFL.com

Darcy Tucker
Ryan Clarke
Daniel Rioli
David Cunningham
Tom Cole

Not sure Tucker and Clarke will make it to our pick but am still leaning toward Cuningham over all of them personally. Although if Tucker did slide it'd be hard not to consider him. Partington and Lovell are the other two I'd add to that list.

If somehow we managed to get Cole and Cunningham would be a huge win wouldn't mind in what order

That would be awesome but almost no chance we'd be able to pick up both surely? We'll be lucky to get Cuningham with our first, and be very surprised if Cole is around at our 2nd. I'd most likely pick Cole if Cuningham wasn't available at our first.

 

[iLikeIt]

Hope WCE will go Rioli at pick 23 he's a playing type that we lack since Fido .
Rioli is in the Newman ,Weedon Low 20's pick range that has failed so we are due to hit the jackpot soon .

I like the idea of what Rioli could become but think he is still a fair way off atm. There are other options this draft that are just as fast/agile but also more solid and consistent. Also be warned that the videos on the new Draft Machine only show the good stuff - for a more accurate analysis of each player you need to check out footage (and things like stats etc) from other sources.

 

[bUCKET__]

Hope WCE will go Rioli at pick 23 he's a playing type that we lack since Fido .
Rioli is in the Newman ,Weedon Low 20's pick range that has failed so we are due to hit the jackpot soon .

Please don't ever get heavily into gambling.

 

[INSANE]

Any more info on Cunningham? Where' he expected to range in the draft?

Since I posted that there has been a fair bit of info posted on him here.
He was always going to be rated more highly by recruiters than Bigfooty posters. They look more at what a player could be if all their attributes (physical and skills) consistently come together working in a full-time elite organisation, and how driven they are to make that happen.

 

[eagles rule]

I like the idea of what Rioli could become but think he is still a fair way off atm. There are other options this draft that are just as fast/agile but also more solid and consistent. Also be warned that the videos on the new Draft Machine only show the good stuff - for a more accurate analysis of each player you need to check out footage (and things like stats etc) from other sources.

He's raw , I know that"s what appeals at this stage and his performance at Afl combine .So he's ahead of Newman and Weedon already who we took with pickes in the 20's .He's speed is elite and has great decision making .
WCE should look to get a gun mid in next years draft ,this years lot are not very appealing .

Pick 23 Rioli
Pick 31 Menagola ,Cunningham, Glass McCasker
Pick 61 Snadden ,Tahana ,Mountford or Thomas Glen

 

[SpaceClef]

hard to base it from the 3 minute video posted by the AFL but comparing his speed from that to shuey, it looks like shuey has him covered for speed. However, thats only off this 3 minute clips. I would say shuey would be one of the fastest inside mids atm in the comp.

I reckon Shuey's pace comes from his attacking sensibility and willingness to back himself through traffic more than necessarily being the fastest runner who happens to be an inside mid.

But you're right, it's almost impossible to tell based on one video. His 20m sprint was 2.91 (very similar to Shuey's 2.92), but his repeat sprints time was more than 1 second quicker than Shuey's.