Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Sentinel]

OUT: O'Driscoll, Bedendo, Smith, Macrae, Daniel, Clarke, Keath, Rypstra (rookie)
IN: M.Kennedy, Hynes, Jaques, Dolan, Davidson, L.Kennedy

Our list balance is currently 36 main list + 5 Cat A rookies (Duryea, Baker, Bramble, Poulter, McNeil) + 1 Cat B rookie (O'Donnell). The list rules are 36-38 main list, 4-6 Cat A rookies (to a combined 42 players), and 0-2 Cat B rookies.

Based on that, we have a single Cat A rookie spot to fill as well as a Cat B rookie position open. That Cat A spot can be filled at tomorrow's rookie draft, the SSP, or next season's mid-season draft.

 

[doggiesin08]

When do we start doing 2025 Best 23s and end of year delisting candidates?

 

[Mojorisin]

OUT: O'Driscoll, Bedendo, Smith, Macrae, Daniel, Clarke, Keath, Rypstra (rookie)
IN: M.Kennedy, Hynes, Jaques, Dolan, Davidson, L.Kennedy

Our list balance is currently 36 main list + 5 Cat A rookies (Duryea, Baker, Bramble, Poulter, McNeil) + 1 Cat B rookie (O'Donnell). The list rules are 36-38 main list, 4-6 Cat A rookies (to a combined 42 players), and 0-2 Cat B rookies.

Based on that, we have a single Cat A rookie spot to fill as well as a Cat B rookie position open. That Cat A spot can be filled at tomorrow's rookie draft, the SSP, or next season's mid-season draft.

Can't count both O'driscoll and Rypstra as Rypstra took his place.

 

[dergert]

Next year we need to address midfield zip and small forwards

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Next year we need to address midfield zip and small forwards

Would’ve loved that North future first to try and get Callaghan..

 

[Doggy]

Next year we need to address midfield zip and small forwards

I think a few of our draftees have that scope.

And ivisic does if we select him in the Rookie Draft

 

[Doggies7]

Would’ve loved that North future first to try and get Callaghan..

Yeah it's hard to be too critical and probably annoying to keep harping on it, but take away Hynes and add North's top 5 pick next year to chase a Finn or Butters etc (or take to the draft), and then add another guy in this draft late like Leidler, Ivisic, Stumpf etc with that list spot and it would have been amazing work.

I think list managers and the draft team just get so infatuated with their 1st round talents they have watched and tracked all year and are so keen to nab them, that it's too hard to give up that pick and push it back 12 months.

 

[Doggy]

Yeah it's hard to be too critical and probably annoying to keep harping on it, but take away Hynes and add North's top 5 pick next year to chase a Finn or Butters etc (or take to the draft), and then add another guy in this draft late like Leidler, Ivisic, Stumpf etc with that list spot and it would have been amazing work.

I think list managers and the draft team just get so infatuated with their 1st round talents they have watched and tracked all year and are so keen to nab them, that it's too hard to give up that pick and push it back 12 months.

Chance we get one of those guys tomorrow

 

[Pugz89]

Would’ve loved that North future first to try and get Callaghan..

Hottest of hot takes, but I expect North to push up a bit next year. Their first might be somewhere around pick 7 or 8 or so in a compromised draft. Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[Doggies7]

Chance we get one of those guys tomorrow

Can get two then I mean. As in end of draft we have the extra list spot for trading out Hynes pick so one of those fallers we liked and then a rookie still tomorrow

 

[Distinctive_]

OUT: O'Driscoll, Bedendo, Smith, Macrae, Daniel, Clarke, Keath, Rypstra (rookie)
IN: M.Kennedy, Hynes, Jaques, Dolan, Davidson, L.Kennedy

Our list balance is currently 36 main list + 5 Cat A rookies (Duryea, Baker, Bramble, Poulter, McNeil) + 1 Cat B rookie (O'Donnell). The list rules are 36-38 main list, 4-6 Cat A rookies (to a combined 42 players), and 0-2 Cat B rookies.

Based on that, we have a single Cat A rookie spot to fill as well as a Cat B rookie position open. That Cat A spot can be filled at tomorrow's rookie draft, the SSP, or next season's mid-season draft.

OUT: O'Driscoll, Bedendo, Smith, Macrae, Daniel, Clarke, Keath, Rypstra (rookie)
IN: M.Kennedy, Hynes, Jaques, Dolan, Davidson, L.Kennedy

Our list balance is currently 36 main list + 5 Cat A rookies (Duryea, Baker, Bramble, Poulter, McNeil) + 1 Cat B rookie (O'Donnell). The list rules are 36-38 main list, 4-6 Cat A rookies (to a combined 42 players), and 0-2 Cat B rookies.

Based on that, we have a single Cat A rookie spot to fill as well as a Cat B rookie position open. That Cat A spot can be filled at tomorrow's rookie draft, the SSP, or next season's mid-season draft.

So we have 2 list spots (42/44 total players) left but only 1 Category A rookie spot left?

Assuming one player is picked tomorrow does that mean we are capped? The only extra player we can potentially bring in after is a Cat B rookie

 

[Doggy]

So we have 2 list spots (42/44 total players) left but only 1 Category A rookie spot left?

Assuming one player is picked tomorrow does that mean we are capped? The only extra player we can potentially bring in after is a Cat B rookie

I think so.

Just one Cat A rookie spot left.

Few good players still on the board so hopefully we do pick

 

[Sentinel]

Can't count both O'driscoll and Rypstra as Rypstra took his place.

That's correct - combined they only open up a single list spot (as per my post we have 8 players out, 6 players in, but only 1 Cat A rookie spot available)

 

[Sentinel]

So we have 2 list spots (42/44 total players) left but only 1 Category A rookie spot left?

Assuming one player is picked tomorrow does that mean we are capped? The only extra player we can potentially bring in after is a Cat B rookie

I'd be surprised if we used the pick in the rookie draft. Think we're more likely to hold the spot open for the SSP.

 

[bobs head soup]

For those who understand the system better than me, Craig Cooper Peters was on our NGA list a while back. Is he still eligible to be taken as a Cat B rookie?

 

[VitalDread]

For those who understand the system better than me, Craig Cooper Peters was on our NGA list a while back. Is he still eligible to be taken as a Cat B rookie?

Only eligible within two years of his draft class

He's been in our VFL system for 4 years now so we need to draft him normally

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Yeah it's hard to be too critical and probably annoying to keep harping on it, but take away Hynes and add North's top 5 pick next year to chase a Finn or Butters etc (or take to the draft), and then add another guy in this draft late like Leidler, Ivisic, Stumpf etc with that list spot and it would have been amazing work.

I think list managers and the draft team just get so infatuated with their 1st round talents they have watched and tracked all year and are so keen to nab them, that it's too hard to give up that pick and push it back 12 months.

Can't forget we had give up a F2 in that offer too. So whilst we'd have North's F1 and our F1 we would have no other picks. No 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick (and no Hynes).

 

[bobs head soup]

Only eligible within two years of his draft class

He's been in our VFL system for 4 years now so we need to draft him normally

Thanks for that, shame though. He's shown real persistence, it'd be good if the system would give him more of a chance to get a spot.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Yeah it's hard to be too critical and probably annoying to keep harping on it, but take away Hynes and add North's top 5 pick next year to chase a Finn or Butters etc (or take to the draft), and then add another guy in this draft late like Leidler, Ivisic, Stumpf etc with that list spot and it would have been amazing work.

I think list managers and the draft team just get so infatuated with their 1st round talents they have watched and tracked all year and are so keen to nab them, that it's too hard to give up that pick and push it back 12 months.

Infatuation or good list management?

Our list is desperate for young mids. It would be a strange decision delaying improving that area for another year considering the age demographic of our current midfield group.

Would be borderline negligent.

 

[TiAn_]

Yeah it's hard to be too critical and probably annoying to keep harping on it, but take away Hynes and add North's top 5 pick next year to chase a Finn or Butters etc (or take to the draft), and then add another guy in this draft late like Leidler, Ivisic, Stumpf etc with that list spot and it would have been amazing work.

I think list managers and the draft team just get so infatuated with their 1st round talents they have watched and tracked all year and are so keen to nab them, that it's too hard to give up that pick and push it back 12 months.

All depends on how Hynes pans out and what that North pick could get next year. Will be an interesting watch.

 

[Foxman98]

All depends on how Hynes pans out and what that North pick could get next year. Will be an interesting watch.

Also depends what the offer was if it was with F2 going back I wouldn't have done it

 

[Dogs Rule]

The general commentary was that we got reamed on the Baz deal and there is an argument that can be made.

The net result though is Baz and pick 45 out, Matthew Kennedy, Cooper Hynes and a chunk of cap in.

MK and CH come across as solid citizens who love a scrap and have their teammates back.

I'll bet very few in our dressing room are feeling like we are worse off.

I suspect in a few years time we will be looking back fondly.

There are some things you can't measure as well.

Narcissists tend to suck the life out of any environment they're in. Work, group of friends having a drink at a pub, a footy club.

Solid, selfless, team (and club) first citizens will do me.

 

[TiAn_]

Also depends what the offer was if it was with F2 going back I wouldn't have done it

Hard to say one way or the other unless you’re across the 2025 draft crop, I’m not.

 

[Mojorisin]

Also depends what the offer was if it was with F2 going back I wouldn't have done it

It was.

Hard to say one way or the other unless you’re across the 2025 draft crop, I’m not.

The draft next year is extremely compromised (more so then usual) probably another reason we had a few more picks last night on previous years. I think next year we will see quiet a few overagers/late developers being taken.

 

[Mofra]

It was.


The draft next year is extremely compromised (more so then usual) probably another reason we had a few more picks last night on previous years. I think next year we will see quiet a few overagers/late developers being taken.

Every year things change though. A lot of quality talls and flankers available this year, despite people touting this one as mid-heavy a long way out.