Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[weltschmerz]

My theory is that his personality change started out in the hubs in 2020. I don't think 2019 Smith would have responded to a grand final loss by going out and getting on the bags. Being 19 and spending a good chunk of time living with teammates (with some loose units around, Lachie Hunter definitely comes to mind but there's always party boys) several states away from family, while being cashed up, seems like the kind of environment that can get a very intense type like Smith on a new path.

 

[ab_83]

If a player goes to the PSD they can put a contract value on their head that the recruiting team will pay. Is it the same with the national draft?

 

[doggiesin08]

If a player goes to the PSD they can put a contract value on their head that the recruiting team will pay. Is it the same with the national draft?

Yes

 

[Mofra]

If a player goes to the PSD they can put a contract value on their head that the recruiting team will pay. Is it the same with the national draft?

Yep - Luke Ball did it. Played for $500k in his first season and base salary in his second at the Pies

 

[glenashley]

I can't see Smith getting through to the cats even in the national draft.

Teams like tigers and saints will have the picks and the cap space.

 

[The Inbetweener]

I can't see Smith getting through to the cats even in the national draft.

Teams like tigers and saints will have the picks and the cap space.

PSD for sure but I think it’s unlikely anyone would use a first rounder on him if he says he doesn’t want to play with them.

 

[maddog37]

I think our list management team is employing the thanatosis method in this years trade period!!

 

[TiAn_]

PSD for sure but I think it’s unlikely anyone would use a first rounder on him if he says he doesn’t want to play with them.

If we manage to turn our F1 into a first before 15 this year it’ll put us in a stronger position with Smith. We could say to Connors he’s not getting to them through either draft, so get to work on the Cats.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

If we manage to turn our F1 into a first before 15 this year it’ll put us in a stronger position with Smith. We could say to Connors he’s not getting to them through either draft, so get to work on the Cats.

It's a pretty empty threat though, there's no way we'd spend a first round pick redrafting him

 

[dergert]

Apparently CD will weigh up over the weekend if he will stay or not.

 

[grassman75]

Apparently CD will weigh up over the weekend if he will stay or not.

Keep Jacko if he’s happy to play sub and VFL….set CD free

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Keep Jacko if he’s happy to play sub and VFL….set CD free

Honestly blows my mind that St Kilda are playing hardball with us on Macrae, getting him for pick 43 is such a gift

 

[The Inbetweener]

It's a pretty empty threat though, there's no way we'd spend a first round pick redrafting him

Spot on unfortunately. Similar to Dunkley, we are dealing with a top 4 team with multiple priorities which means we aren’t getting full return for quality players. The best hope is that it goes to mediation and a 3rd party influences the compensation.

 

[yebach]

Re Jacko.
If we aren't going to play him. Which we probably aren't.
Then we let him go for whatever the Saints offer. We owe him that much for his years of service.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Spot on unfortunately. Similar to Dunkley, we are dealing with a top 4 team with multiple priorities which means we aren’t getting full return for quality players. The best hope is that it goes to mediation and a 3rd party influences the compensation.

Yeah, I think we have to get used to the idea that we're not getting back what he's worth. There's no chance their F1 will be included. Absolute best case scenario is 17 + F2.

 

[Pencil case]

Yeah, I think we have to get used to the idea that we're not getting back what he's worth. There's no chance their F1 will be included. Absolute best case scenario is 17 + F2.

Best cast scenario is they trade up for us.

 

[BrisDog]

Apparently CD will weigh up over the weekend if he will stay or not.

Any idea what other options he has open to him other than staying?

 

[weltschmerz]

Any idea what other options he has open to him other than staying?

North's keen.

 

[Doggy]

Re Jacko.
If we aren't going to play him. Which we probably aren't.
Then we let him go for whatever the Saints offer. We owe him that much for his years of service.

There is no world where we should accept getting reamed by St Kilda

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Richmond have salary cap space to burn without Bolton, Lynch's contract finishing up, Baker, Graham.

They could draft him, have him play for a year as they rebuild, then look to trade him for a bigger trade haul if they can't convince him to stick around

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Re Jacko.
If we aren't going to play him. Which we probably aren't.
Then we let him go for whatever the Saints offer. We owe him that much for his years of service.

Or alternatively he could be important if we have injuries in the midfield
Or his could arrest his decline as a player and find something that made him the All-Australian in the first place
Or he still could offer some value if in a slight out of position play (like this year 12 games with 19 touches this year) when selected, which is clearly a likely chance.

He wasn't some dud player that we had to sign and give games to because we were a dud team. He was still a good player that good teams, like we were, often have more then 22/23 good fit players.

 

[yebach]

There is no world where we should accept getting reamed by St Kilda

The Hawks showed some class years ago when they let Mitchell and Hodge go for a pack of chips.
We should do the same. He's been a great servant of the club.

 

[yebach]

Or alternatively he could be important if we have injuries in the midfield
Or his could arrest his decline as a player and find something that made him the All-Australian in the first place
Or he still could offer some value if in a slight out of position play (like this year 12 games with 19 touches this year) when selected, which is clearly a likely chance.

He wasn't some dud player that we had to sign and give games to because we were a dud team. He was still a good player that good teams, like we were, often have more then 22/23 good fit players.

Or we play Harmes in the guts and Jacko in the VFL.

 

[cherrypie]

Honestly blows my mind that St Kilda are playing hardball with us on Macrae, getting him for pick 43 is such a gift

He’s a 30 year old that didn’t finish Top 20 in our BnF. I can fully understand why they wouldn’t want to pay more than Pick 43

 

[Doggy]

The Hawks showed some class years ago when they let Mitchell and Hodge go for a pack of chips.
We should do the same. He's been a great servant of the club.

Yeah... who we also need with all that we seem to be losing.

And the club has said they're not letting him go for scraps.

We aren't asking for a pick in the 20s here ... jesus, it's a pick in the 40s.

Saints are being w***ers