Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

[Pack Specialist]

“His value has increased enormously and it’s going to have to be an exceptional deal for us to even consider it,” Wells said.

“He’s worth a top 10 pick I would have thought and perhaps more.

“Our intention at the moment is that unless we’re totally satisfied, he’ll be playing with us in 2019.”

Meanwhile Kelly's manager says that Kelly will be at WC or Geelong in 2019 and will join WC at the end of 2019 if not this year and you lot go and start a whole thread about him...

You mean a list manager was talking about a potential trade on AFL trade radio?!?!?!?!?

Stop the presses!

What carry on!

How dare he!

He wants what's best for Geelong?!!?!?!?!

Lock him up!

 

[Smithy06]

Wow comparing Geelong Football Club to a serial rapist.

Stay classy you pathetic fool.

Nope, he’s comparing Gold Coast to Bill Cosby if we’re going to analyse the joke.

 

[Obeanie1]

People have these same issues in day to day life.

Most working class people deal with these issues on a daily basis with next to no assistance.

People work away from their families all the time, it is a sacrifice that people make to provide for their families.

If Kelly is not willing to make that sacrifice for his family's financial wellbeing then how is it Geelong's fault?

Most employers do not cater to their employees personal lives at all, there is no legal requirement to do so.

People acting as if Geelong is doing Kelly a disservice to his family are delusional IMO.

The support networks in place for him, provided by the Geelong Football Club would be vast compared to just about any other form of employment.

If Kelly stayed as an electrician instead of being drafted, would his family still be his employers responsibility?

If Kelly wasn't good enough for AFL would WC still want him?

Kelly has already shown to be lying about WA being about his family.

If that was the case, Freo would be in the picture.

Mental illness is a serious issue and if Kelly lies about that too then it just shows his lack of character and integrity.

How is Kelly lying?

Has asked for a trade to a preferred club due to his family situation.

Obviously that is not desperate enough to work for someone he doesnt want to and will wait 12 months if he needs to.

If he waits 12 months who knows where his wife and kids will live. Could well be back in Perth or partly both locations.

Just because he wants to return to Perth does not mean both clubs can offer the same job conditions or benefits. Hence way he has a preference.

Just like Lobb has just nominated Freo ahead of the Eagles.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Is kelly a million dollar player? Is that what Geelong are proposing to pay him or wce? Welller apparently got 750k.

If he is getting 400k a year - that’s a 12-18 pick sorry for someone who is 24.

Otherwise offer him a pay rise worthy of how u rate him.

West Coast offer is 500k and up for five years. First few years being a less amount with ballon payment in final two years.

Geelong were looking to pay him a similar 500k amount but would have been 500 each year

 

[Pack Specialist]

Nope, he’s comparing Gold Coast to Bill Cosby if we’re going to analyse the joke.

How respectful to all the victims of his crimes.

The relationship of GC and the GFC has nothing to do with a convicted serial rapist.

This thread like West Coast fans is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

[Smithy06]

How respectful to all the victims of his crimes.

The relationship of GC and the GFC has nothing to do with a convicted serial rapist.

This thread like West Coast fans is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Haha go have a nap. You’re all worked up

 

[Pack Specialist]

How is Kelly lying?

Has asked for a trade to a preferred club due to his family situation.

Obviously that is not desperate enough to work for someone he doesnt want to and will wait 12 months if he needs to.

If he waits 12 months who knows where his wife and kids will live. Could well be back in Perth or partly both locations.

Just because he wants to return to Perth does not mean both clubs can offer the same job conditions or benefits. Hence way he has a preference.

Just like Lobb has just nominated Freo ahead of the Eagles.

If home was the driving factor, does it matter which club?

If it does then Kelly was lying all year.

 

[Pack Specialist]

Haha go have a nap. You’re all worked up

Yeah rape is such a hilarious topic.

Grow up.

 

[Smithy06]

Yeah rape is such a hilarious topic.

Grow up.

Maybe you’re hungry. Have you eaten anything today?

 

[Max zero]

Maybe you’re hungry. Have you eaten anything today?

 

[Scotland]

There's got to be some kind of Scott brothers link.

North fans: Gaff is ours, no wait what no he isn't, he's lying coward punching scum we don't want him
Geelong fans: Kelly is ours, we're not trading him for anything less than a top 10 pick and then some, he's lying scum who isn't homesick at all for nominating WC we do(?) want him

 

[Wojcinski]

Huh?

Gold Coast respect your football club about as much as Bill Cosby respects women id say

Ah yes, Geelong are degenerate rapists because they won't give Tim Kelly away for free. Good one dopey.

 

[Pack Specialist]

Maybe you’re hungry. Have you eaten anything today?

Yeah, who would be offended by comparing a sport to one of the most inhumane crimes that exist.

Your mother would be proud.

 

[Pack Specialist]

Ah yes, Geelong are degenerate rapists because they won't give Tim Kelly away for free. Good one dopey.

What an absolute piece of shit human being.

Bill Cosby too.

 

[Seeds]

Your anger is misdirected like most Geelong fans in here..he is not the 1st player in contract in nominate a club

If the cats won’t trade fairly keep him.. WC will use the picks in the draft
WC are not doing anything wrong and have had a history of dealing fairly

And you ignore the points again. Is it some sort of pyschological blindness?

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

The AFL system inspires a funny sense of entitlement in fans. Player movement is so restricted that every time a player doesn't want to play for a club, everyone loses their shit. There are plenty of players just as good as Kelly running around, but Geelong know they can't just go out and sign another one. The system is way too rigid for that.

If you look at the NRL which doesn't have a draft or a trade period, players come and go all the time. Kieran Foran was a $1m recruit for Parramatta, his life fell apart and he was releaseed from his contract after 9 games. Played one year in NZ and is now with the Bulldogs. The idea that any AFL team would release a marquee player from a contract and allow them to just play for another team the next year is so at odds with what people are conditioned to.

I still don't believe first year draftees should be tradeable, but every kid that is drafted by a club and wants to leave is immediately seen as some kind of turncoat who is letting down the club that raised them from a pup. Weird.

I don't really see it that way. It's just that he's contracted, he's obviously a valuable commodity, Geelong's within its rights to get what it can for him and to use Fremantle as leverage to pressure West Coast for a better deal.

No ill will, there's just no reason why this should end with either a miserable Kelly sitting out for a year, or stuck on the other side of the country to where he needs to be, or Geelong being held to ransom and accepting a crappy offer for a player who looks like he'll become an All Australian in the very near future.

 

[Seeds]

How is Kelly lying?

Has asked for a trade to a preferred club due to his family situation.

Obviously that is not desperate enough to work for someone he doesnt want to and will wait 12 months if he needs to.

If he waits 12 months who knows where his wife and kids will live. Could well be back in Perth or partly both locations.

Just because he wants to return to Perth does not mean both clubs can offer the same job conditions or benefits. Hence way he has a preference.

Just like Lobb has just nominated Freo ahead of the Eagles.

He doesnt really want to return to perth. You cant use this argument after yesterday. He simply wants to play for the eagles.

 

[ghostbat12]

I like it how article is “Essendon WON the race for Shiel”. Nothing about what’s best deal for GWS.

Wce WON the race for Kelly.

 

[Seeds]

Geelong fans can respond to all points made by eagles.

Eagles fans simply ignore a number of points made by geelong fans and pretend they dont exist cos they have no response to those points that doesnt make geelong fans look right.

Thus circle work continues

 

[Seeds]

I like it how article is “Essendon WON the race for Shiel”. Nothing about what’s best deal for GWS.

Wce WON the race for Kelly.

You didnt win a race when kellys manager hasnt even considered anyone else.

 

[pantskyle]

Geelong fans can respond to all points made by eagles.

Eagles fans simply ignore a number of points made by geelong fans and pretend they dont exist cos they have no response to those points that doesnt make geelong fans look right.

Thus circle work continues

Congrats on winning the thread.

 

[Wojcinski]

Geelong fans can respond to all points made by eagles.

Eagles fans simply ignore a number of points made by geelong fans and pretend they dont exist cos they have no response to those points that doesnt make geelong fans look right.

Thus circle work continues

The ridiculous thing is everyone knows Tim will go to WCE for a fair price for both clubs.

 

[Pack Specialist]

I like it how article is “Essendon WON the race for Shiel”. Nothing about what’s best deal for GWS.

Wce WON the race for Kelly.

It's hard to lose a one horse race.

 

[Scotland]

I don't really see it that way. It's just that he's contracted, he's obviously a valuable commodity, Geelong's within its rights to get what it can for him and to use Fremantle as leverage to pressure West Coast for a better deal.

No ill will, there's just no reason why this should end with either a miserable Kelly sitting out for a year, or stuck on the other side of the country to where he needs to be, or Geelong being held to ransom and accepting a crappy offer for a player who looks like he'll become an All Australian in the very near future.

It won't get to Kelly sitting out a year, that's fantasy stuff.

Geelong are free to do whatever, but they're not free from criticism. They have a pretty good standing in trade relations built up over a number of years. They won't want to sacrifice that.

People keep bringing up Freo like they have a bag of riches on offer. They have one good pick they aren't interested in swapping for Kelly and two much bigger priorities. By all means they should be in the conversation but if all they are going to offer is pick 22 they're not helping Geelong's position.

 

[ghostbat12]

Geelong fans can respond to all points made by eagles.

Eagles fans simply ignore a number of points made by geelong fans and pretend they dont exist cos they have no response to those points that doesnt make geelong fans look right.

Thus circle work continues

It’s easy to ignore responses that are really twisting what’s going on.

Eg. Eagles ignored him
He will go to freo
He should just accept playing at Geelong
He should shut his “bitch” up
His manager is evil
Eagles ignored him

Followed by:

Eagles ignored him
Eagles ignored him.


Think that about covers Geelong fans’ responses.