The Liberal Party - How long? - Part 2

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this extreme rightist has been is the classic example of what's wrong with the liberals today.




Well I count about 8 Teal seats.

For Dutton to win he needs 19 seats, I’ll give him Katter and two of the rural independents in minority, then 16 in total.

With the teal seats (I count 7) he needs a swing of 3.2% to get enough middle class marginals from Labor.

Without the Teals he almost needs to double the swing to 5.9%. The last time that happened was Fraser over Whitlam in 1975. Rudd over Howard in 2007 was the next closet with about 5.4% in 2007.

So Dutton need to really do something very incredible to win 16 middle class suburban marginals off Labor without regaining any Teal seats.

Albo may have played a 4D chess move to protect his right flank from the Libs in this referendum.
 

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this extreme rightist has been is the classic example of what's wrong with the liberals today.



Imagine inviting Jacinta price into all the teal seats so she can tell them that colonisation did not have a negative affect on aboriginal people.

Dutton will be doing this to the "inner city elites" soon if we stay on this path

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Imagine inviting Jacinta price into all the teal seats so she can tell them that colonisation did not have a negative affect on aboriginal people.

Dutton will be doing this to the "inner city elites" soon if we stay on this path

Not just Teal seats

Looks like a few of the remaining Liberal urban marginals like Deakin, Bradfield and Berowra (Julian Lesser’s seat) when slightly for Yes. That could be a battleground for more Teal candidates or strong ALP candidates.
 
Well I count about 8 Teal seats.

For Dutton to win he needs 19 seats, I’ll give him Katter and two of the rural independents in minority, then 16 in total.

With the teal seats (I count 7) he needs a swing of 3.2% to get enough middle class marginals from Labor.

Without the Teals he almost needs to double the swing to 5.9%. The last time that happened was Fraser over Whitlam in 1975. Rudd over Howard in 2007 was the next closet with about 5.4% in 2007.

So Dutton need to really do something very incredible to win 16 middle class suburban marginals off Labor without regaining any Teal seats.

Albo may have played a 4D chess move to protect his right flank from the Libs in this referendum.
Yes Albo lost but he also won.
Where the teal voters have another reason not to like Dr No where Dutton is not a vote winner outside of Queensland.
 
Not just Teal seats

Looks like a few of the remaining Liberal urban marginals like Deakin, Bradfield and Berowra (Julian Lesser’s seat) when slightly for Yes. That could be a battleground for more Teal candidates or strong ALP candidates.

"NO" majority in Deakin and Berowra. Bradfield had a "YES" majority.
 
Every teal seat voted yes. The Coalition clearly has no pull with them.

It’s borderline impossible to see how they ever win government without a major change.
The No result will no doubt lead to a lot of back-slapping at Liberal HQ, and be taken as a cue that the shift to the right is resonating with the public. I think it's the most dead of dead cat bounces. They're idiots if they think reaching to the arse end of the far right is going to actually win government.
 
Well I count about 8 Teal seats.

For Dutton to win he needs 19 seats, I’ll give him Katter and two of the rural independents in minority, then 16 in total.

With the teal seats (I count 7) he needs a swing of 3.2% to get enough middle class marginals from Labor.

Without the Teals he almost needs to double the swing to 5.9%. The last time that happened was Fraser over Whitlam in 1975. Rudd over Howard in 2007 was the next closet with about 5.4% in 2007.

So Dutton need to really do something very incredible to win 16 middle class suburban marginals off Labor without regaining any Teal seats.

Albo may have played a 4D chess move to protect his right flank from the Libs in this referendum.

Wondering if Dutton realise the teal sets are into tactical voting big time. It’s pretty clear
 
Wondering if Dutton realise the teal sets are into tactical voting big time. It’s pretty clear
The key for other electorates is to also get into tactical voting.
 
Also think the teals are best placed to look after retirees.

Much was made of chalmers delayed hit in super concessions but Morrison went at them far more, ironically after solemnly promising not to do so (v shorten)

It could be they are occupying the space left by the democrats?
 

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Also think the teals are best placed to look after retirees.

Much was made of chalmers delayed hit in super concessions but Morrison went at them far more, ironically after solemnly promising not to do so (v shorten)

A super tax that affects 0.2% of the population. Opposition to the tax was dropped after even a majority of Liberal voters supported it.
 
The No result will no doubt lead to a lot of back-slapping at Liberal HQ, and be taken as a cue that the shift to the right is resonating with the public. I think it's the most dead of dead cat bounces. They're idiots if they think reaching to the arse end of the far right is going to actually win government.

They’re not reaching - they are the arse end of the far right.

Well perhaps not the far end… but the party has moved to the right. Howard started it because he understood the prejudices that sat barely below the surface for many of the voting public.

Except that was 25-30 years ago and things have changed.
 
They will not own the cities for a very long time.

The Greens have stolen more of Labor's left and Labor have stolen more of the liberals centre to replace them.
The Outer suburbs is there big chance. Labor held seats as well. Nobody is more vocal about cost of living than the majority of those electorates. It will make or break the chances of both parties IMO. Even seats in the outer north West of Melbourne as an example which Labor has held by miles for god knows how long could easily have huge swings against the government if what happened at the state election continues. This is where the money needs to go from now until the next election to appease the locals.
 
They’re not reaching - they are the arse end of the far right.

Well perhaps not the far end… but the party has moved to the right. Howard started it because he understood the prejudices that sat barely below the surface for many of the voting public.

Except that was 25-30 years ago and things have changed.
I wouldn't underestimate the ability of political parties to go further to the fringes - look at the Republicans, which the LNP so deeply admires.
 

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