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Thee's no risk in appealing.
You only lose the money.
You don't get more on appeal.

Walters wasn't concussed and apart from playing it up for a free, played on.

Try and get it lowered to low impact and then use the "good guy" defence.
I'm sure his record is better than Camerons.

Apparently Cameron has had 4 rough conduct fines. I'd be interested to know if the tribunal panel had his history handy or if they just believed the flat-out lies coming out of the lawyers mouth.
 
I don't think you do. Barrass tackled and didn't protect the head while he swung the tackle. Walters head lands on the ground by the sling motion of the tackle. It is what it is. Deal with it and move on. We can challenge but can guarantee it will be a waste of time.
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Yep, this is it. It doesnt matter that Walters was fine, the AFL wants to stamp this kind of tackle out of the game.

The onus is on the tackler to protect the tacklee's head. Barrass didnt do that and swung Walter's head into the turf. Thats a suspension every day of the week. Intent doesnt matter. Result of the impact doesnt matter. The ruling from on high is clear: dont do it.

In saying that - if the result of a failed challenge is only money, challenge anyway. Worst that can happen is the suspension is upheld.
 

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Simpson has said a few times now that continuity is important so expect minimal changes

Harry Edwards to replace Barrass as a forced like for like change but beyond that I feel the rest of the 22 deserve to hold their spots

Then there’s a question of who should be sub. Sheed again or does Luke Edwards come back in or does Ryan get his first game back

Inclined to use Sheed as the sub again
 
Yep, this is it. It doesnt matter that Walters was fine, the AFL wants to stamp this kind of tackle out of the game.

The onus is on the tackler to protect the tacklee's head. Barrass didnt do that and swung Walter's head into the turf. Thats a suspension every day of the week. Intent doesnt matter. Result of the impact doesnt matter. The ruling from on high is clear: dont do it.

In saying that - if the result of a failed challenge is only money, challenge anyway. Worst that can happen is the suspension is upheld.
Might aswell appeal as it will only cost money. But I'm not wrong in that still is exactly the reason he got done. The moment opponents head hits the ground in a sling tackle you get done. We wouldn't be here right now if Barrass didn't do it.

We can appeal though and may aswell as poster above said it doesn't give him anymore weeks and only a fine. May aswell play the good record card. But you are wrong if you think it was not a stupid tackle. That type of tackle will get a player to the tribunal every week. Barrass needs to work on he's tackling technique so he won't end up getting reported for it again.
Except his head didn't hit the ground, it hit the ball that was being held by his free arm that he could've used to break his fall with.
 
Except his head didn't hit the ground, it hit the ball that was being held by his free arm that he could've used to break his fall with.

Head didn’t hit the ground in the tackle, but did when he flopped his head back chasing a free kick.

I kind of get why it is a week, but I would be fairly certain that the rules state either head contact with the ground or potential for injury.

So it will come down to the potential for injury and duty of care. Assuming Toby challenges (and gets off) our task gets more difficult as well.


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Well ok then,

Out: Barrass, Sheed, Cripps
In: Edwards, Edwards, Ryan

We can't play with 1 tall back, especially since it would be Gov. Harry Edwards only choice we have as Barrass will be suspended. Luke Edwards concussion protocols comes straight back in, has done nothing wrong all season and amongst our hardest runners. Stiff s**t Sheed, did nothing with his 17% game time anyway. Ryan is simply a better player than Cripps. Case can be made for Brockman going out, but unless Cripps is setting the world on fire every week what is the justification he gets a game ahead of developing youth who are more talented than he is anyway? Does Noah Long or Brockman deserve to go out of the side just to get Jamie Cripps a few more match payments before he retires?

Excluding the possibility that we play finals this year and/or next [which I do not] playing Cripps over these talented youngsters, in a team where there is pressure now for almost every spot- but particularly his- is mere nostalgia and credits. He's doing nothing particularly wrong, he's just not the future and him going out of the side doesn't particularly cost us anything tangible, but does provide a space for our future players to gain much needed experience. Unpopular calls have to be made at some point in a rebuild.
Cripps had a game high 25 pressure acts.
He's going nowhere.
 
Except his head didn't hit the ground, it hit the ball that was being held by his free arm that he could've used to break his fall with.

It was both. Walters head hits both the ball and the ground in the act of the tackle.

And it doesnt matter that Walters could have used his free arm to brace - the onus is on Barrass to ensure that he protects the head during the tackle. Thats just the letter of the ruling.

Its unfortunate for us, but the tribunal has Barrass dead-to-rights here.
 
OUT
Barrass susp
Brockman
J Williams

IN
Jameson
Ryan
Culley

Using a sub for last 10 mins of every game is not ideal. If Sheed is kept in this role, he is definately done end of season. He was rumoured to be going to Freo. I wonder if this will be entertained this off season. I am bringing Culley in. A lot more utility factor than J Williams. This fwd conundrum will get interesting soon. Culley will get more ball in the AFL than at that very inconsistent WAFL side.

Add Oscar, Hewett, Culley,
Flynn to Ruck. B Williams to CHF/Fwd/Ruck.
Going from strength to strength now.
 
OUT
Barrass susp
Brockman
J Williams

IN
Jameson
Ryan
Culley

Using a sub for last 10 mins of every game is not ideal. If Sheed is kept in this role, he is definately done end of season. He was rumoured to be going to Freo. I wonder if this will be entertained this off season. I am bringing Culley in. A lot more utility factor than J Williams. This fwd conundrum will get interesting soon. Culley will get more ball in the AFL than at that very inconsistent WAFL side.

Add Oscar, Hewett, Culley,
Flynn to Ruck. B Williams to CHF/Fwd/Ruck.
Going from strength to strength now.

This has to be a troll account, right?
 
Might aswell appeal as it will only cost money. But I'm not wrong in that still is exactly the reason he got done. The moment opponents head hits the ground in a sling tackle you get done. We wouldn't be here right now if Barrass didn't do it.

We can appeal though and may aswell as poster above said it doesn't give him anymore weeks and only a fine. May aswell play the good record card. But you are wrong if you think it was not a stupid tackle. That type of tackle will get a player to the tribunal every week. Barrass needs to work on he's tackling technique so he won't end up getting reported for it again.
This isn’t the only tackle where I’ve seen a guy suspended even though the guy being tackled could have protected himself as his arms were free. Understandably they often try and hold onto the ball instead of being pinged for dropping it but it does contribute to the tackle itself. Maybe there should be some consideration on this when deciding penalties
 
This isn’t the only tackle where I’ve seen a guy suspended even though the guy being tackled could have protected himself as his arms were free. Understandably they often try and hold onto the ball instead of being pinged for dropping it but it does contribute to the tackle itself. Maybe there should be some consideration on this when deciding penalties
The only way you could counteract this would be to allow players to drop the ball in a tackle in order to protect themselves, which would be farcical.
 
The only way you could counteract this would be to allow players to drop the ball in a tackle in order to protect themselves, which would be farcical.

Well that would be holding the ball. Either you get a head injury or a free kick against and it should be on the player to choose.
 
Well that would be holding the ball. Either you get a head injury or a free kick against and it should be on the player to choose.
Nah you cant do that because there are players in the league who will absolutely choose the head injury over ceding a free kick. And then they would sue the AFL for failing in its duty of care (which is what the whole "sling tackle" business is REALLY about. The AFL is piss-scared of getting sued for head injuries like the NFL does).
 
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