Discussion Prison Bars debate

[Supercheapgiants]

Simply rebrand to Port Eddies

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Peace at last for you Pies fans

Does that mean Port Adelaide can finally wear their Prison Bars strip full-time now

 

[Wydstepbro]

Does that mean Port Adelaide can finally wear their Prison Bars strip full-time now

With port power joining the VFL aren’t the port magpies along with the bars dead?

 

[Cubs2Lions]

With port power joining the VFL aren’t the port magpies along with the bars dead?

Will be interesting to see what happens to the original Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, as they have been the most successful club in the state competition and would be a massive death kneel for SANFL when that time comes IMO.

Regarding the Prison Bars, was really just trying to cause a nuclear war on here between two big clubs but there are real options that Port Adelaide could work with that style and not be a carbon-like copy of Collingwood’s strip.

One example that could really work quite well for the Power and gives me massive nostalgia vibes from the 90s/00s while paying homage to their Prison Bars style from their SANFL history is shown before:

 

[Andonis1997]

Will be interesting to see what happens to the original Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, as they have been the most successful club in the state competition and would be a massive death kneel for SANFL when that time comes IMO.

It won't be - SANFL fans don't want the AFL reserves there.

 

[seaforthswan]

Will be interesting to see what happens to the original Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, as they have been the most successful club in the state competition and would be a massive death kneel for SANFL when that time comes IMO.

Regarding the Prison Bars, was really just trying to cause a nuclear war on here between two big clubs but there are real options that Port Adelaide could work with that style and not be a carbon-like copy of Collingwood’s strip.

One example that could really work quite well for the Power and gives me massive nostalgia vibes from the 90s/00s while paying homage to their Prison Bars style from their SANFL history is shown before:

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Those teal accents on the stripes go hard.
Port ya gotta do it

 

[Zoops]

Sometime every couple of months

Non-Port fans: Since you can't wear the prison bars all the time, as a workaround, you should put teal on it.
Port fans: But we don't want teal on it, we just want Port to wear the traditional jumper, on any occasion and at our will.
Non-Port fans: Okay, but teal looks good.
Port fans: We don't want teal on it.
...

A couple of months later...
Non-Port fans: Since you can't wear the prison bars all the time, as a workaround, you should put teal on it...

 

[BigChippa52]

port fans not willing to compromise, would love to see the traditional bars but a compromise has to be made which is adding teal, in my opinion, the V's are getting stale but I'm more in the seat of them making their first clash their new home their best jumper beside the bars and fits more with their AFL identity, the bars would be great but need teal but the other option is more modern and fits with the branding and is less traditional, its a promotility black kit, then white with a little bit of teal good kit

 

[Fizzler]

With port power joining the VFL aren’t the port magpies along with the bars dead?

With the unified branding we brought in in 2020, are we even technically still the Magpies anymore?

 

[Sam Hall]

Will be interesting to see what happens to the original Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, as they have been the most successful club in the state competition and would be a massive death kneel for SANFL when that time comes IMO.

Regarding the Prison Bars, was really just trying to cause a nuclear war on here between two big clubs but there are real options that Port Adelaide could work with that style and not be a carbon-like copy of Collingwood’s strip.

One example that could really work quite well for the Power and gives me massive nostalgia vibes from the 90s/00s while paying homage to their Prison Bars style from their SANFL history is shown before:

View attachment 1901294

I personally think Port missed a golden opportunity to play around with a teal prison bar guernsey when they were given an AFLW side. Adelaide, Fremantle and GWS are three clubs I can think of that had different guernsey designs compared to their AFL counterparts so it wouldn’t have been outside the realm of possibility.


I’ve seen a lot of terrible teal prison bar designs over the years and this is easily my favourite design. I think they should use it. The vee is stale. Port and their fans want to go on about history all the time but at the end of the day they’ve killed the Magpies and they’ve worn teal for over a quarter of a century. Teal is their history now and they won a premiership with it. Look at the footyjumpers site and see how much the prison bar design has actually changed over the years. It’s not as scared as they claim. Efforts to keep teal of the prison bar is boomer mentality.


Great redesign

 

[Andonis1997]

Oh good, we've got this discussion in two threads now.

 

[Gibbsy]

Oh good, we've got this discussion in two threads now.

I’ll keep an eye on things.

New jumpers chat only please

 

[Prison bar Pete]

(Facebook)

And from an attendee:

A couple of other things I forgot to mention:

* we now have ZERO debt to the AFL and SANFL, that’s done, finished, kaput

* we’re wearing prison bars in the home Showdown, that’s settled

* there’s plans for a celebration of ten year Adelaide Oval memberships in the works

* the plans for the upgrade of the Fos Williams stand look pretty schmick, and the bowls club next door is on board, which is good

* and yes, Hinkley did a Q&A, but I didn’t pay attention

 

[Mr39]

port fans not willing to compromise, would love to see the traditional bars but a compromise has to be made which is adding teal, in my opinion, the V's are getting stale but I'm more in the seat of them making their first clash their new home their best jumper beside the bars and fits more with their AFL identity, the bars would be great but need teal but the other option is more modern and fits with the branding and is less traditional, its a promotility black kit, then white with a little bit of teal good kit

Why does a compromise need to be made when port are wearing the original design each year now in the afl?

 

[caloschwaby]

Why does a compromise need to be made when port are wearing the original design each year now in the afl?

Because they're wearing it in the very specific circumstances of the Showdown, a game that is a celebration of SA footy history with the blessing of presumably CFC who doesn't have any commercial advantage in doing so.

No one picked teal for Port, Port picked teal, they just have to use the identity they made up for themselves now. There will never be two teams at the same time in this 18-team league of a niche but heavily commercialised national sport product with black/white stripes going vertically down as their home jumper, it won't happen, never will, and Port has known that for long enough to have made something of it.

 

[Mr39]

Because they're wearing it in the very specific circumstances of the Showdown, a game that is a celebration of SA footy history with the blessing of presumably CFC who doesn't have any commercial advantage in doing so.

No one picked teal for Port, Port picked teal, they just have to use the identity they made up for themselves now. There will never be two teams at the same time in this 18-team league of a niche but heavily commercialised national sport product with black/white stripes going vertically down as their home jumper, it won't happen, never will, and Port has known that for long enough to have made something of it.

You’re stating a personal opinion as fact. Which is fine, but doesn’t mean it’s true.

 

[caloschwaby]

You’re stating a personal opinion as fact. Which is fine, but doesn’t mean it’s true.

And my personal opinion happens to align with the reality of the situation fairly closely, hence why after 25+ years we haven't seen Port "return the bars" full time.

On a side note, if Port were serious about it they would've rolled out the teal bars on a black jumper 20 years ago and normalise the design within the aesthetic of the league. At the end of the day the PBs is a design, the black and white colours only symbolise the magpie moniker which they've had to drop for the AFL anyway. Port could've returned the bars right from 1997 if they really wanted to but decided to be bold and brave, something that probably doesn't sit well with boomer mentality in the current administration if what I read in the Hinkley threads is to be believed.

 

[Tandy]

Will be interesting to see what happens to the original Port Adelaide Magpies in the SANFL, as they have been the most successful club in the state competition and would be a massive death kneel for SANFL when that time comes IMO.

Regarding the Prison Bars, was really just trying to cause a nuclear war on here between two big clubs but there are real options that Port Adelaide could work with that style and not be a carbon-like copy of Collingwood’s strip.

One example that could really work quite well for the Power and gives me massive nostalgia vibes from the 90s/00s while paying homage to their Prison Bars style from their SANFL history is shown before:

View attachment 1901294

God thats good. Would be the best guernsey port has had in the AFL or reserves

 

[BigChippa52]

Why does a compromise need to be made when port are wearing the original design each year now in the afl?

there doesn't need to be then, unless it becomes full time because Collingwood, teals apart of the afl team now and would have to be present in the kit if its made full time as not to confuse fans into thinking its Collingwood and the ofc the pies would have a sook

 

[bomberclifford]

a compromise has to be made

No. It doesn't.

 

[BigChippa52]

No. It doesn't.

simple if you want to wear the PBs full time you have to add teal that is the compromise, if you don't wear it full time black and white is just fine, too stubborn to understand

 

[bomberclifford]

simple if you want to wear the PBs full time you have to add teal that is the compromise, if you don't wear it full time black and white is just fine, too stubborn to understand

We'll wear it more as the years go on and then you'll understand what the deal is.

If it has teal in it, it isn't the traditional guernsey. It's as simple as that.

 

[BigChippa52]

We'll wear it more as the years go on and then you'll understand what the deal is.

If it has teal in it, it isn't the traditional guernsey. It's as simple as that.

only against Adelaide for now, it doesn't matter a contract was signed you can't wear it gotta have teal I hope for the reserves this is different, hell Port Magpies and Collingwood power for the reserves, pies deserve that, I still think that your first clash should be the home kit, and you can have the PB's to wear when ever within reason, it doesn't have a history in this league or with any of these teams really, keen to see it be worn more, this should probably be in the ideas chat

 

[bomberclifford]

only against Adelaide for now, it doesn't matter a contract was signed you can't wear it gotta have teal I hope for the reserves this is different, hell Port Magpies and Collingwood power for the reserves, pies deserve that, I still think that your first clash should be the home kit, and you can have the PB's to wear when ever within reason, it doesn't have a history in this league or with any of these teams really, keen to see it be worn more, this should probably be in the ideas chat

"it doesn't have a history in this league" - as long as we're in this league, then it does. It's attached to our club's history.

 

[Zoops]

"it doesn't have a history in this league" - as long as we're in this league, then it does. It's attached to our club's history.

The success and traditions it represents is the very reason why Port Adelaide are part of the national competition today.