Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

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Not to be a kent, but i'd hardly call Schlong brilliant in 2024. His debut season was much better.

He kicked 2 goals from 7 games and didn't lay a tackle either of his final 2 games before eventually getting subbed off late vs the Bombers (the game Cripps ruined for everyone by overturning Watermans clutch mark).

I get everyone loves him, he's a solid player and exceeding expectations for a pick 58, but the carry on makes it seem like he's the craftiest player since Boomer Harvey. Bloke is realistically coming from a long way back now he's had an ACL, i'd be well and truly tempering expectations and just hoping he can return safely through the WAFL.

Don't worry, you're....

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Yeah, people keep thinking McQualter is going to make us play 'chaos' ball, when he's never actually indicated that to be the case.

Obviously he'll introduce elements of the style Richmond played but most teams are playing similar styles these days anyway and it needs to be a style that can eventually hold up in finals.
I think he will bring quite a bit of melb defensive structures too, often overlooked that was his most recent experience.
 

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I will be there tomorrow was there today.
I asked about the NGA boys today they said Jake Caton went up in there opinion
was very impressive with his kicking and situation awareness in the training drills
So he maybe another to watch next year, as this training is a good learning point
going into his draft year.
Said Koby Evans is now 187cm going through a growth spurt
 
I will be there tomorrow was there today.
I asked about the NGA boys today they said Jake Caton went up in there opinion
was very impressive with his kicking and situation awareness in the training drills
So he maybe another to watch next year, as this training is a good learning point
going into his draft year.
Said Koby Evans is now 187cm going through a growth spurt
What's Jake Caton's go? Role/Position/Potential? Take it he is NGA so we get rights to match?
 
Agree and I hope we have learnt our lesson with playing Oscar way too early in the ruck and damaging his body.
Was such a stupid idea and made worse because we actually had Tom Hickey on the list to play that role.

Poor decision by all concerned that has had serious consequences for not only Oscars footballing future but also for our list balance.

Hopefully such foolhardy decision making is behind us as the new management team forge their own style.

His knee is the main issue, I don’t see how him playing in the ruck damaged that?

I know he has his shoulders strapped, but not sure I remember an injury.
 
Freo prob the other one?
Yeah that’s what I thought and makes sense to fill the gap between their other two games.

Just interesting they didn’t announce it in their games, while some others did.

It looks like Brissy, GC and Pies are going a 3 team setup. Wasn’t sure if that meant Freo weren’t involved in the ‘first week’ of pre season games
 

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Later on in that segment, Shuey talks about not doing any stoppage work this side of Christmas as they’ll get into that after the break

Interestingly he also said that they weren’t likely to be a team chasing a 15+ clearance differential each week as that wasn’t part of McQualter’s philosophy. Unsure if that’s a good or bad thing

It's straight out of the Richmond counterattack gameplan.


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The Tigers would often allow opponents to gain spares around stoppage, focussing instead upon setup to force a post-stoppage turnover and resulting scoring opportunity.


Due to Richmond's success, much has been covered and dissected in terms of its function.

Two articles that explain it better than most in easy to understand terms are from C.Atkinson, S.Lawson and J.Coventry at ABC.



(Ironically, counter to both the articles, Richmond obviously lost against Collingwood in the Preliminary Final in 2018 and then went on to win again in 2020 after an average start.)
A post-mortem on the legacy and impact of Richmond's successful tactical approach on the competition by J.Niall was written in 2022.




Perhaps the biggest query on implementing a Richmond-style gameplan is in maintaining its defensive integrity in light of recent rule changes, particularly 6-6-6 and the stand rule.

The stand rule came in during 2021, has been anecdotally quoted in some parts that it was brought in deliberately to undo tactics that Richmond were exploiting, and coincides with the end of their period of success.

However, their demise is arguably due to the lack of pace in their defence being exposed by the resultant quicker ball movement, rather than the foundation of turnover-ball being undone.

I suspect this is one of the main reasons why A.McQualter appears fixated upon stacking the defence with pace and mobility, in an attempt to avoid this outcome.



In the aftermath of their Round 3 upset over Richmond in 2021, On the Couch dedicated a good amount of time into how Sydney had made the transition from a back-half defensive team into a forward-half turnover exponent.


(Some quality burns on new recruit L.Baker here as well)


Many of the key points raised in the above video will apply for West Coast this coming season.
 
I'd like to keep Archer Reid forward and get Lecras or similar to teach him goal kicking fundamentals and Kennedy forward craft.

I think Jobe Shanahan ends up the Gov heir apparent.... He's got stickier hands than Dark Sharks, front row of a Dua Lipa concert!
Haven’t paid too much attention to the draft but watching Jobe’s highlights it feels like he’d be such a waste if he wasn’t a forward. Seems like such an Eagles type forward with his smarts/running patterns as a lead up forward. Also looks awesome flying for marks too.
 
Haven’t paid too much attention to the draft but watching Jobe’s highlights it feels like he’d be such a waste if he wasn’t a forward. Seems like such an Eagles type forward with his smarts/running patterns as a lead up forward. Also looks awesome flying for marks too.
Long term I’d love to see Shanahan at FF and Archer at CHF. If there’s a spot down back in the meantime that gets them out of the Beagles I’m all for it, provided we don’t ask Archer to ruck.
 
Long term I’d love to see Shanahan at FF and Archer at CHF. If there’s a spot down back in the meantime that gets them out of the Beagles I’m all for it, provided we don’t ask Archer to ruck.
You’re forgetting Jack Williams who is a few years older than them and is looking like a ripper too.
 
You’re forgetting Jack Williams who is a few years older than them and is looking like a ripper too.
Agreed. I mentioned a few posts earlier that long term I wonder if JWilliams and AReid can develop their craft enough to both play ruck/fwd in the same team which would free up a spot by not having a specialist ruck.
 

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