Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

[Grahame]

Baker for 3? It was Baker for 14? i haven’t seen anyone say it was Baker for 3.

Yep there was Baker for 3. And in particular one also simultaneously directed abuse at Clarke. I pulled him up on it.

Anyway, Baker for 14 is still incorrect.

But my point was I’d be interested to know if there was a story behind it. However, we might never know.

The way some people frothed and moaned about Baker it was like the BB punters had more information to base decisions on than those on the inside.
Meaning - Us Right! Them Wrong!

 

[eaglevision]

Anyway, Baker for 14 is still incorrect.

No it’s not.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Vlahos is a Temu Tim Gossage

Don’t listen to him and take most of what I see he’s saying with a giant grain of salt

Temu is Wish from Wish?

 

[Hook461123]

Yep there was Baker for 3. And in particular one also simultaneously directed abuse at Clarke. I pulled him up on it.

Anyway, Baker for 14 is still incorrect.

But my point was I’d be interested to know if there was a story behind it. However, we might never know.

The way some people frothed and moaned about Baker it was like the BB punters had more information to base decisions on than those on the inside.
Meaning - Us Right! Them Wrong!

We did well in the draft but we did pay pick 14 for Baker, which is overs. We should've got one of the Tigers picks back in the trade. At the time they had quite a few picks that they then bundled up.

The Baker trade should never have been included in the pick 3 trade in the first place. We should've negotiated it seperately but by the sounds of it we had already agreed to pick 14 even though we didn't have it at the time.

Anyway its done and it worked out ok in the end, either by luck or design. The ironic thing being we probably would've taken Allen and Shanahan in the picks if we had split 3 anyway. We came out of it ahead but I don't think anyone could deny we overpaid for an out of contract Baker to start with.

 

[Grahame]

No it’s not.

Okay. Not going to argue. Baker did cost 14.

You win.

 

[The Gtrain]

Training reports from the club:

Training report: Setting the tone

Young Eagles put in the work during a solid session on Friday

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

and The West:

https://archive.md/34xQQ#selection-1363.0-1240.2

Not too much to note, other than Jack Graham making his first appearance, as well as Matt Flynn returning early.

Ahead of Monday's return date for 5th+ year players, it leaves Dom Sheed, Tim Kelly and Jack Petruccelle as the only players who haven't returned to training earlier than required.

Thanks for that!

The most exciting part for me is that, with a new coach, new recruits and losing some of our stalwarts, the pressure for spots has to be high, pushing each other to be better, its basically a new side, we're going to have a very different B23

Looking at Baker, Graham, Owies
They probably come in as roughly our 5th,10th.20th in player ranks so a nice mix

7 Major changes
OUT: Barrass, Darling, Witherden
IN: Owies, Baker, Graham, Hewett

8 Minor changes (probably more)
OUT: Gaff, Rotham, JJ, Edwards, Trew
IN: games by draftees, O.Allen (full season), Flynn

New coach
New game plan based on running and pressure, something we have completely lacked in the last 4 years

Feels like we should improve offensively, just whether our D can stand up, probably should of drafted Viagra as the key post.

 

[The Gtrain]

All 3 have injury queries, I believe.

Didn't Petch go to Qatar?

From drums?

 

[WCErevival]

Gary Stocks gone? Best trade and draft period ever.

 

[Slash136]

Oscar could do an Ashley McIntosh

Ashley Mcintosh

Age

52

Ht

192cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.0

1star

and move down back?

 

[WCEswift]

Thanks for that!

The most exciting part for me is that, with a new coach, new recruits and losing some of our stalwarts, the pressure for spots has to be high, pushing each other to be better, its basically a new side, we're going to have a very different B23

Looking at Baker, Graham, Owies
They probably come in as roughly our 5th,10th.20th in player ranks so a nice mix

7 Major changes
OUT: Barrass, Darling, Witherden
IN: Owies, Baker, Graham, Hewett

8 Minor changes (probably more)
OUT: Gaff, Rotham, JJ, Edwards, Trew
IN: games by draftees, O.Allen (full season), Flynn

New coach
New game plan based on running and pressure, something we have completely lacked in the last 4 years

Feels like we should improve offensively, just whether our D can stand up, probably should of drafted Viagra as the key post.

Gary Stocks gone? Best trade and draft period ever.

Good news is Owies has great slinky skills according to this

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

The way some people frothed and moaned about Baker it was like the BB punters had more information to base decisions on than those on the inside.
Meaning - Us Right! Them Wrong!

Surely you can understand though. And it's not like it was just the average pundit thought the deal didn't make sense. To put this in context Geelong paid 17 for Bailey Smith and wouldn't budge.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Oscar could do an Ashley McIntosh and move down back?

Like this idea

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Something I really like about Baker is his positivity. Every time I see a pic of him or a video he always looks or sounds upbeat.

Yep you need these guys. Harvey seems like one and Masto seemed like one in the previous gen before.

I know in my amateur career I love having more of these guys around and we’ve definitely been lacking positive vibes at the club since Willie put Gatorade in a cup

 

[06Premiers]

Good news is Owies has great slinky skills according to this

 

[Cuzz09]

CAN YOU BELIIIIIIEVE IT!!!!

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[Elite Pete]

Training on Monday will be different. 9 new faces (3 have been there in part this off season already). Plus Mini, Marco Bello and the development coach

I assume some of the train on will be there too. Plus when do the 2025 father son/NGA kids start joining in on sessions?

Fair chance we get some WAFL signings now that the drafts are done, some would join in on training as well like Ruscoe and Gilbee did.

 

[Cuzz09]

Beagles games are even going to be interesting to watch now!

Prob still get beaten most weeks but hopefully green shoots

ye olde green shoots ay

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[We_The_West]

Beagles games are even going to be interesting to watch now!

Prob still get beaten most weeks but hopefully green shoots

ye olde green shoots ay

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Agreed! Imagine if the younger players actually got to develop properly in the WAFL and weren't thrown AFL debuts due to necessity.

I want to see Chesser and Johnston and the young blokes getting 20+ touches in the WAFL and impacting games before they get called up to the AFL to man the gimp wing...

 

[Eaglemaniac]

We might not have a gimp wing anymore under the new coach.

 

[WCE_Phill]

The unknown of next year is very exciting, new positions, no more favourites

Really hoping for Hewett and JWilliam having big seasons

 

[RookiePick]

Thanks for that!

The most exciting part for me is that, with a new coach, new recruits and losing some of our stalwarts, the pressure for spots has to be high, pushing each other to be better, its basically a new side, we're going to have a very different B23

Looking at Baker, Graham, Owies
They probably come in as roughly our 5th,10th.20th in player ranks so a nice mix

7 Major changes
OUT: Barrass, Darling, Witherden
IN: Owies, Baker, Graham, Hewett

8 Minor changes (probably more)
OUT: Gaff, Rotham, JJ, Edwards, Trew
IN: games by draftees, O.Allen (full season), Flynn

New coach
New game plan based on running and pressure, something we have completely lacked in the last 4 years

Feels like we should improve offensively, just whether our D can stand up, probably should of drafted Viagra as the key post.

Our defence wasn't holding up anyway.
Can't be worse and at least if we look aggressive and dangerous when we have the footy we won't be so painful to watch.

 

[Brolga]

Good news is Owies has great slinky skills according to this

 

[Alesana]

So do we still have a spot on the list for Burgiel?

 

[Godfather32]

So do we still have a spot on the list for Burgiel?

Yes, one spot left

 

[Grahame]

Surely you can understand though. And it's not like it was just the average pundit thought the deal didn't make sense. To put this in context Geelong paid 17 for Bailey Smith and wouldn't budge.

Agree they paid overs. Well over. And it seemed unnecessarily early. Just makes me wonder if there’s a back story.

Many punters claimed - on the basis of absolutely no knowledge - that the club aka Clarke was a fool (or much worse). And it might be true.

All I’m wondering if there wasn’t something else at play. It just seemed toooo ridiculous if there wasn’t some other reason (given the club had knowledge we didn’t).