Moved Thread Poll added: If you were setting up a new team; Weitering or Hogan?

[hench]

I pick Boomer Harvey!

He and Waite have a lot of potential. Is Brad Scott the right man to lead them forward?

 

[juss]

Hogan for me because I reckon he is the next "best forward in the league" once he matures mentally and physically. Weitering will be a gun but its too early for him yet, need to see him against the oppositions best forwards consistantly. Hogan already gets the best key backs.

 

[LittleG]

Weitering.
Is a professional footballer, in preparation, body language and composure. Has more versatility than Hogan.
Also, less likely to be playing for Freo within 2 years.

 

[captain cotch 9]

I'd take Weitering.
I compared it to having to choose out of Jack and Rance.
IMO Rance is more crucial to our side.

 

[lmach]

Weitering. You can't teach the poise he has.

 

[themuldohyeh]

Hogan is a crybaby.

But he can cry all he wants when he bangs them home for my new team. Come on down!

 

[Sando22]

Hogan for me.
Weitering a star and may be a captain someday. Hogan will never be captain, he'll leave that for Viney.

 

[Dogsman16]

Hogan by distance only due to the trend that you can find good defenders with later picks far more easily than a key forward.

Take the dogs for example. Our KPD setup consisted of a rookie, delisted free agent and a mature age mid to late draft pick. Yet our tall forward setup is a pick 1 and pick 5. Yet our Kpds are performing far better than our forwards currently.

 

[adammania9]

Plenty of talented young KPFs in the league. Weitering is one of few KPDs. I'll take Weitering.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Hogan by distance only due to the trend that you can find good defenders with later picks far more easily than a key forward.

It's a prevailing thought around the boards but does it assume that Weitering will be a good defender and no more? I'm guessing he has to show he is a once in a generation defender to shift that thought process. I wonder what stock Geelong fans put in Taylor or Scarlett before him or Eagles fans in Glass or Jakovich back in the day compared to key forwards.

I was also interested in the Rance over Riewoldt suggestion earlier.

Once they start out their draft pick shouls be redundant and their performance and value to their side the most important factors.

You can get good defenders later in the draft, can you get a Weitering later in the draft? Depends on how good he gets I guess.

Take the dogs for example. Our KPD setup consisted of a rookie, delisted free agent and a mature age mid to late draft pick. Yet our tall forward setup is a pick 1 and pick 5. Yet our Kpds are performing far better than our forwards currently.

Could this simply suggest that key forwards draw a premium and it is not necessarily reflective of how good they are? So people are choosing based on availability factors rather than talent. Choose the forward because there are less around.

Carlton have rarely done it so it's not something I've experienced.

Fev was something like #39. Kreuzer was a ruck/forward supposedly but we got him for the ruck. Nabbed Kennedy at #4 and traded him. Livingston at #4 to replace a forward in Hamill and tried to turn him into a defender.

McKay and Charlie Curnow in the first round is a novelty but even then they were taken for their versatility rather than to be our goal scoring focal point.

'Tis a curious thing.

 

[RainMachine]

Purely based on a new team, you'd have to go Weitering. Just seems a perfect professional

 

[Ricmel]

Weitering for me. What tips me is his character - I think he will come to represent Carlton the way Riewoldt represents StKilda, he will set the standards his teammates aspire too for the next 10 years. Jesse I think at this stage is not showing the same leadership qualities.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Weitering

But only so Hogan can still go to freo (if that's a possibility)

 

[Benny78]

Both are too unproven to warrant my selection.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Weitering for me
A bit old school but I like to shore up the defense first and he looks like he's been playing for 3+ years already

Good question though!

 

[Mister Carlton]

Weitering because he doesn't have attitude problems.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Wow, 56 votes each of two. TBH I thought Hogan would win this easy....

 

[OniAu]

Weitering.

Forwards are great , however they can be flakey in terms of output. Maybe my view is tarnished by Cloke

 

[NaturalDisaster]

neither, I'm Ross Lyon, i don't play damn kids....

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Substitute Hogan for Tom Lynch (GC) and the poll would be different

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Substitute Hogan for Tom Lynch (GC) and the poll would be different

Can't compare a 24yo with a 21yo, that's ludicrous

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Hogan, and genuinely surprised there are so many Weitering votes

 

[Malifice]

Weitering a star and may be a captain someday. Hogan will never be captain, he'll leave for Freo.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Bic]

Always a good sign when an 18 year old (turned 18 in November!) who has played 3 games is compared to a 21 year old.

If this is Weitering now, it's a scary thought what he can develop into.

I take Weitering, but I am bias.

 

[DangerSloane]

Wow closer than I expected.

I picked Hogan, by a hair. Really love hte look of Jacob though.