Need to add in that Milera hasn't delivered and nor did the picks from trading Lever and CC. In terms of furst rounders at draft, only Max is an unarguable better than par outcome. Less than a handful of arguable and too many triple bogies.
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Need to add in that Milera hasn't delivered and nor did the picks from trading Lever and CC. In terms of furst rounders at draft, only Max is an unarguable better than par outcome. Less than a handful of arguable and too many triple bogies.
He's been average whilst commanding the greatest % of entries directed to him in the comp. And it's a fair gap % wise to 2nd.
Bloke looks like he's wearing lead boots.
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Missed a trick not getting a top 15 player in last year after losing Doedee and McAdam
Lost Rahilly
Last year with minimal injuries we can see we have the making of a team. Depth is shallow though. No Rankine, Dawson or Walker - like yesterday - and we are very vulnerable
Desperately need to secure 2 walk up starts as FA this year - keep the first rounder for a mid and get a ruckman
As bad as we look we aren’t far off - but you could argue that for majority of average teams
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Just had a quick 5AA listen. Whoever was on with KG cheekily hinting at our recruiting saying we let Will Day pass as well as Serong and picked a defender in McAsey instead. Quite a few after Fish are regular players now. imo Hamish needs to go.
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They think he's a good recruiter but if the list we have now is the culmination of 12 years of work as our lead recruiter and all of his own professional development before and during that period, I can't see how he gets a pass mark.
I wrote something like that last year that I think it will be a detriment to us that he played so well. He’s been a great of our club but the time has come for him to retire, his form is well down and has lost power in his kicking. Time for Fog and Thilthorpe to take over and see who will be the man. We need to gut the list again of dead wood, I feel it’s better drafting a young player is better than having players that are over 22 that have continuity let us down. Unless a player has had a bad injury record, we surely should know if they will be good enough by the time they are 23 years old. After that they are depth, do we really need depth when we are a bottom team? I don’t think so
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I’ve backed him for years, favouring coaching/development as primary concern. But eventually, sheer weight of numbers results in your time being up.
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I disagree.
Dawson, Rankine and Soligo is a very good core three.
We really just need one or two of Berry, Rachele, Pedlar, Schoenberg, Curtin or potentially even Dowling to take the next step there and we’re set.
Of course getting one from another club who’s quality would be handy but it’s not as dire as I think we sometimes say it is.
Pedlar/Rachele is most close to the bust powerful midfielder we need to compliment them. The midfield was the biggest concern coming into this season, now it's ROB and the forward line (the quality of Fogarty and Thilthorpe are there but they need to step up post Walker and we need Welsh to develop into a top 10 pick).
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I’m expecting big things from Thilthorpe next season.
He’s been chomping at the bit to be used more often, and with Father Time seeming to be finally catching up to Tex I think he’s ready to take over in a big way. He also looks massive (in a good way), in the pictures/videos the club has shared of him in his rehab. As long as he hasn’t lost too much athleticism with the knee injury I’m very bullish about him.
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Unintentionally i think you may have got closer than you think
a few things must change for us to stop becoming the st Kilda of the AFL.
We need in the short term to better utilize the talents we have at our disposal. We need to play players who are performing well in the ressies each week eg Strauchnie and Dowling. This week would be an ideal time to give ROB a rest and play strauchnie who has been in our best for the last 3-4 weeks. Dowling should come in for Crouch who is injured. We should be playing Hammil across half back instead of Smith as Hammil was actually in good form against Collingwood. Curtin and Ryan are improving but they are being well educated by Madgen on the field in the ressies and are both learning to defend and getting in the right positions on the field. Madgens voice at Richmond on Saturday was constant, positive and at times challenging for the young boys in the back half. if Hammil fails and i think he probably will, the new boys will be ready to go and their stay in the team will be sustainable and longer term - not in one week and out the other.
In relation to this we need to try players in their final year of contract or those that are not consistently playing well in their present positions in new roles to see whether they can cut the mustard there. If not they can be released. Bond should go back to the middle and play as as a defensive run with midfielder - a role his skills and attributes seem better suited to. I cannot quite understand why Lanced Boyle is playing there given he is a top up and will not be part of the AFL side in the future. We need to see whether Gollant can be a regular AFL footballer. Lets try him on the wing where he played for Calder or in defence as his forward performance is not improving.
We also need to think carefully about what is going to happen with our backline when Murray returns. He clearly is one of our key players and performed brilliantly when he returned to play on the weekend. If he plays at CHB and Keane is at FB why not keep a well performed Borlase in the Back pocket rather than Butts who is a solid player but kills out rebound game with slow play and long kicks down the line because his short kicks are notoriously unreliable. Josh Worrell when he returns could play forward, on the wing or at half back. A back line with these players and Milera, Hinge, Ryan and Max would be one of the better ones in the league.
We need in the short term to better utilize the talents we have at our disposal. We need to play players who are performing well in the ressies each week eg Strauchnie and Dowling. This week would be an ideal time to give ROB a rest and play strauchnie who has been in our best for the last 3-4 weeks. Dowling should come in for Crouch who is injured. We should be playing Hammil across half back instead of Smith as Hammil was actually in good form against Collingwood. Curtin and Ryan are improving but they are being well educated by Madgen on the field in the ressies and are both learning to defend and getting in the right positions on the field. Madgens voice at Richmond on Saturday was constant, positive and at times challenging for the young boys in the back half. if Hammil fails and i think he probably will, the new boys will be ready to go and their stay in the team will be sustainable and longer term - not in one week and out the other.
In relation to this we need to try players in their final year of contract or those that are not consistently playing well in their present positions in new roles to see whether they can cut the mustard there. If not they can be released. Bond should go back to the middle and play as as a defensive run with midfielder - a role his skills and attributes seem better suited to. I cannot quite understand why Lanced Boyle is playing there given he is a top up and will not be part of the AFL side in the future. We need to see whether Gollant can be a regular AFL footballer. Lets try him on the wing where he played for Calder or in defence as his forward performance is not improving.
We also need to think carefully about what is going to happen with our backline when Murray returns. He clearly is one of our key players and performed brilliantly when he returned to play on the weekend. If he plays at CHB and Keane is at FB why not keep a well performed Borlase in the Back pocket rather than Butts who is a solid player but kills out rebound game with slow play and long kicks down the line because his short kicks are notoriously unreliable. Josh Worrell when he returns could play forward, on the wing or at half back. A back line with these players and Milera, Hinge, Ryan and Max would be one of the better ones in the league.
Milera has had two patella ruptures, right at the wrong times for his career.
Right in his prime, and that's a problem.
He looked pretty good last year, especially in the back half. He was becoming what we wanted. I was looking forward to his upward trajectory from there, and then it happened again.
Bit gutted about it, TBH.
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I just posted that the next 2 weeks will be a real gulp moment for the club
Do we bit the bullet and sack Nicks and start the search for a new coach and assistants or do we hold on for dear life
Scorpus posted a list of players that he thinks should go over the next 2 years and its not pretty ( I agree with most)
Yet I think we have some quality on our list - yes some list cloggers and 20-23rdpicked but the core is there
Dawson , Rankine, Fogarty RT , MM and others to build something with a different approach
I think Godden has to go. I think his approach backed by Nicks is the wrong developmental approach . You dont stifle players natural talent - you enhance it you let it free. Waiting for a playerto lose the sharp edges means a Dusty Martin doesnt play in the 2017 GF
I'm not sure if Olsens speech was holding back the tide or he truly believes it
The hardest thing an individual can do is hide amongst a group
I just feel we are going to have another press conference backing the coach in
Do we bit the bullet and sack Nicks and start the search for a new coach and assistants or do we hold on for dear life
Scorpus posted a list of players that he thinks should go over the next 2 years and its not pretty ( I agree with most)
Yet I think we have some quality on our list - yes some list cloggers and 20-23rdpicked but the core is there
Dawson , Rankine, Fogarty RT , MM and others to build something with a different approach
I think Godden has to go. I think his approach backed by Nicks is the wrong developmental approach . You dont stifle players natural talent - you enhance it you let it free. Waiting for a playerto lose the sharp edges means a Dusty Martin doesnt play in the 2017 GF
I'm not sure if Olsens speech was holding back the tide or he truly believes it
The hardest thing an individual can do is hide amongst a group
I just feel we are going to have another press conference backing the coach in
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They'll "sack" Nicks and it will be like the Craig one, where the blame gets placed on the scrutiny from outside the club having a negative effect on the playing group. Coach doing the selfless thing by stepping away, pressure release on the group, was becoming untenable blah blah blah.
If we do decide that the rebuild is a failure and Nicks and others have to go, then the sooner we pull the trigger the better.
It allows us time to look for the right replacement, and also what they need in regard to assistants. Being the first could well be an advantage, and it's not something we can do while Nicks is still being actively employed as coach. It also gives players some advance notice (hope?) as to what's ahead.
Part of the reason we ended up with Nicks and the Cheap as Chips assistants was because the previous process was delayed by the two (internal and external) reviews. We had to pay out staff who were moved on from because of that process, and were literally scrambling to find replacements - it was so bad we had Chappy as a part time CEO as well as President!
If there is going to be bloodletting, we don't want to repeat that or else we are still going nowhere.
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