Oppo Camp Non-Lions Discussion 2025

[Grasshopper17]

Now this is us against Melbourne in 2023. Deers in headlights.

A team who doesn't quite know how to handle the situation against a team who does.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Kamdyn McIntosh is reminding me of the Brisbane Planetarium for some reason

 

[Nathan Barley]

It's amazing how unfit these teams are

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

What a goal, wow

 

[Grasshopper17]

What an effort by Richmond. The debutant and #1 draft pick showed more composure in turning weitering inside out on the wing for the winning goal than the other 43 players on the field in the last quarter.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Looking forward to Cripps' "sh!tting on your team mates" comments during the week. Plenty of instances you can point to from quarter time onwards.

 

[Dalions]

After what we did to let Carlton back in, in opening round last year.
**** that was good to see.

 

[Tom14]

What an effort by Richmond. The debutant and #1 draft pick showed more composure in turning weitering inside out on the wing for the winning goal than the other 43 players on the field in the last quarter.

 

[Tom14]

 

[Grasshopper17]

They will absolutely win a game. At least one. If they bring to the season what they've brought tonight, they'll win games where the other team decides not to show up. Which WILL happen at some stage in the season.

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't wanna work hard"

 

[rye]

nothing can top winning the premiership, but carlton losing comes pretty damn close

 

[Elixuh]

Come. On. Down. Nick. Haynes.

I mean I knew he was cooked. But I thought he'd look serviceable against a Tiger's forward line that has only 1 player I can name. I WAS WRONG. SO WRONG.

God Carlton are dogshit. I am thankful to be here. What a start to the season.

 

[Jivlain]

One never likes to see Richmond win a game. But, on the other hand, hohoho, hnnnhnnn-uh-hnnnhnnn, haha uhahahaa

 

[briztoon]

Haynes cooked. Docherty cooked. Voss out of his depth.

 

[BRAB]

SEN is great tonight.

Guess what, Carlton have “no plan B”.

 

[KissKiss]

Yeah you completely called it and proved me wrong. Massively enjoyed that

 

[Toffee Lion]

SEN is great tonight.

Guess what, Carlton have “no plan B”.

Loving it.

"It's hard to win when you're on the back foot, Brisbane did it last year but are Carlton Brisbane? No they are not".

 

[BRAB]

Loving it.

"It's hard to win when you're on the back foot, Brisbane did it last year but are Carlton Brisbane? No they are not".

2024 still doesn’t quite feel real. When they said that it took me a second to process that I didn’t dream last year.

 

[Elixuh]

SEN is great tonight.

Guess what, Carlton have “no plan B”.

A lot of

"Hi how're you going?"

"Not good thanks"

 

[BRAB]

A lot of

"Hi how're you going?"

"Not good thanks"

A few people are saying “We are wasting a premiership list” and I’m worried that their expectations are way too high.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Yeah you completely called it and proved me wrong. Massively enjoyed that

Happened a lot earlier than I expected to be fair.

The similarities between tonight's game and our loss to Carlton last year are quite stunning. I'm not even talking about the margin and the comeback, just the nature of Carlton's defeat tonight and the very clear and distinct phases of the mindsets they went through tonight.

First quarter and a bit was sticking to the plan, looking as well-oiled a machine as a Michael Voss-coached team can look (ie still clunky).

Then you saw some players start getting a bit ahead of themselves, a bit of lairising, the odd soft effort (Motlop in particular).

Then Richmond start kicking some goals and you see some players thinking to themselves "gee I have to step up here and be the one to get the game back on our terms here". And that's when the panic sets in. That's when players move away from the game plan. And that's when you lose the trust of your team mates, because now nobody knows what their mate is gonna do.

How many times did we see Carlton players crash into each other in the second half? Dropped marks for seemingly no reason? Kicks from skillful players that didn't just miss, they missed by METRES? And as an opponent, every time you see one of those things happen, you grow an extra leg, you keep telling yourself how you're right in their heads, and it can become self-fulfilling.

This is EXACTLY what happened to us this time last year. It's remarkable that these Carlton players (the vast majority of them) lived that exact same game, but because they experienced it from the other perspective, tonight they weren't able to address that very visible (and predictable) chain reaction of emotions.

Full credit to Richmond of course, but make no mistake about it, they didn't really win the game tonight, Carlton LOST it, and they lost it almost exclusively in the upstairs department.

Psychology in sport is quite extraordinary. And, often enough, simply marvellous.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Loving it.

"It's hard to win when you're on the back foot, Brisbane did it last year but are Carlton Brisbane? No they are not".

Ah I turned off not long after the game. Who said that?

 

[Elixuh]

 

[Lace Out]

Vossy will be feathered and tarred all week poor bugger

 

[Elixuh]