Opinion Non-Crows AFL 11

[El Doederino]

Thanks, this is the only thing that makes sense with this whole situation.

Otherwise I can't recall a player stating they are happy to go to any Vic club.

I can imagine that Houston would be fine with going to either Carlton or Collingwood.

It's in his interests to play nice if Port are firm about having no issue in holding him to his contract.

The whole concept of a player choosing the club they wish to be traded to is bizarre if they do genuinely just want to head "home". It looks as though Port have called out Houston and his management on this, which is a good thing.

 

[Scorpus]

Richmond fans screaming corruption that Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

only got them and end of 2nd round pick

Sounds like fair value to me. Had very little interest and Richmond didn't want to keep him

Cumming who has played 81 games and played 6 games this year gets GWS pick 21...

AFL is so corrupt, but hey we knew it was going to happen.

This is from the Richmond board. I mean yeah, it's probably because Cumming had multiple suitors, got a six year deal on good money. While Graham got a 4 year mid-range deal at the only club interested.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

In a fair world, whatever compo they get for Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

would be less than what we got for Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

.

 

[GROTTO]

He'll end up at Collingwood

My understanding is that the Pies are on the box seat to land him, according to Fox Footy.

 

[50BC]

Some of their football opinions are so dumb that you can't help but laugh.

It's generally accepted that Butters, JHF and Rozee are better than Houston therefore if Houston is a Top 10 player, then they must all be in there.

So according to that logic that means that Port have four of the top 10 players in the league

Peak #portlogic

I don't know about that order being generally agreed. I'd probably have Houston no2 on their list and he will leave a big hole if he goes, I'd have JHF about 4th right now but I'm sure in a couple years he will go past them all. Personally I'd rate only Butters at Port as a "top 10 player". But I would have Houston in the top 20.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I was hoping for Jack Graham in his draft year. He has proven a good AFL player. None of our 2016 draftee with us anymore. All duds.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Pick 42 for Graham sounds about right.

 

[BRL121]

I was hoping for Jack Graham in his draft year. He has proven a good AFL player. None of our 2016 draftee with us anymore. All duds.

Are you Marty?

 

[BunjiMC]

I don't know about that order being generally agreed. I'd probably have Houston no2 on their list and he will leave a big hole if he goes, I'd have JHF about 4th right now but I'm sure in a couple years he will go past them all. Personally I'd rate only Butters at Port as a "top 10 player". But I would have Houston in the top 20.

I think Horne-Francis is comfortably better.

 

[MarcusP2]

Are you Marty?

Need to ask his opinion on Ryan Burton.

 

[50BC]

You forgot Alex Neil Bullen. A few on here have him rated top 10.

Seriously though, Houstons value is his long bomb goal kicking. Thats the only reason he is rated as highly as he is.

ANB may be in the top 10 at our club, no where near that across the league

 

[baldandbroke]

I haven’t been keeping tabs, who looks like winning the trade period?

Surely Geelong are a tough incumbent to dislodge?

Are the Paer finding the missing piece - playing hard ball - dominating the room?

Adelaide playing nice has finally not hurt us in a post season? We actually will get what we wanted?

Someone please update me, I need to know the current ladder leaders!!

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

I was hoping for Jack Graham in his draft year. He has proven a good AFL player. None of our 2016 draftee with us anymore. All duds.

So Marty, are you still spruiking that Graham is so much better than Doedee?

 

[50BC]

I think Horne-Francis is comfortably better.
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They play different positions mate, so stats comparisons are next to useless. I think JHF is the greater talent, and will go past everyone currently at Port in time, but he ain't there yet. Houston is already at his peak

 

[BunjiMC]

They play different positions mate, so stats comparisons are next to useless. I think JHF is the greater talent, and will go past everyone currently at Port in time, but he ain't there yet. Houston is already at his peak

I agree that Houston is at his peak right now. But if I was picking a player to win a game tomorrow I'm taking Horne Francis every single time.

 

[jackster83]

I haven’t been keeping tabs, who looks like winning the trade period?

Surely Geelong are a tough incumbent to dislodge?

Are the Paer finding the missing piece - playing hard ball - dominating the room?

Adelaide playing nice has finally not hurt us in a post season? We actually will get what we wanted?

Someone please update me, I need to know the current ladder leaders!!

They've done **** all so far, but Essendon are the big winners, just like every year for the last 20 years.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

So Marty, are you still spruiking that Graham is so much better than Doedee?

Who is Marty and what does it have to do with 2016 draft? We chose Gooch,Poholke, Berg, Signorello and Davis. All Gonski.

 

[baldandbroke]

Who is Marty and what does it have to do with 2016 draft? We chose Gooch,Poholke, Berg, Signorello and Davis. All Gonski.

That’s a classic Marty response.

 

[DJ75]

Who is Marty and what does it have to do with 2016 draft? We chose Gooch,Poholke, Berg, Signorello and Davis. All Gonski.

God that’s horrible to look at. Could have picked the names from a hat on draft night and not done any worse

 

[Scorpus]

God that’s horrible to look at. Could have picked the names from a hat on draft night and not done any worse

That's actually a funny exercise

I did a random redraft and got the following results

Pick 16 (Jordan Gallucci) -> Pick 48 -> Darcy Cameron
Pick 44 (Myles Poholke) -> Pick 57 -> Matt De Boer
Pick 51 (Elliott Himmelberg) -> Pick 68 -> Timm House
Pick 62 (Matt Signorello) -> Rookie Pick 24 -> Henry Schade
Pick 75 (Ben Davis) -> Rookie Pick 33 -> Zach Guthrie

Ten random results for the Gallucci pick that were available to us
Darcy Cameron
Zac Fisher
Mitch Lewis
Ollie Hanrahan
Mitch Hinge
Dion Johnstone
Jarrod Berry
Matthew Taylor
Robbie Fox
Kym Lebois

 

[DJ75]

That's actually a funny exercise

I did a random redraft and got the following results

Pick 16 (Jordan Gallucci) -> Pick 48 -> Darcy Cameron
Pick 44 (Myles Poholke) -> Pick 57 -> Matt De Boer
Pick 51 (Elliott Himmelberg) -> Pick 68 -> Timm House
Pick 62 (Matt Signorello) -> Rookie Pick 24 -> Henry Schade
Pick 75 (Ben Davis) -> Rookie Pick 33 -> Zach Guthrie

 

[Mutineer]

I think Horne-Francis is comfortably better.
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You're comparing apples with oranges.

At this point in their career Houston is the better player by position, that's indisputable.

 

[BunjiMC]

You're comparing apples with oranges.

At this point in their career Houston is the better player by position, that's indisputable.
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So you think Houston is better than Horne-Francis?

 

[Mutineer]

So you think Houston is better than Horne-Francis?

At this point in their career he has a lot more runs on the board, he's made 2 All Australian teams and he was considered in the top 2 medium small/medium defenders in the competition.

 

[BunjiMC]

At this point in their career he has a lot more runs on the board, he's made 2 All Australian teams and he was considered in the top 2 medium small/medium defenders in the competition.

He is a better small/medium defender, sure. But not a better player overall.