Opinion Non-Crows AFL 11

[GROTTO]

Knew the magic number had to be in there somewhere

 

[Apsaalooke]

 

[spenze]

Like Bailey Smith? Geelong get what they want

Oh JFC, imagine that board if Port fold for pick 15 for Butters

 

[MarcusP2]

Henry, Bruhn, Bowes and pick 6, Stengle

They get players out of contract so they don't have to pay high draft picks.

They won't trade for Butters next year I think but he'd be in their FA radar.

 

[George Kramer]

They get players out of contract so they don't have to pay high draft picks.

They won't trade for Butters next year I think but he'd be in their FA radar.

If they think Butters is the difference between a flag in 26 or not I reckon they’ll trade for him

 

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If they think Butters is the difference between a flag in [emoji6] or not I reckon they’ll trade for him

I think he is overrated but I have been wrong before.

 

[MarcusP2]

So now it turns out Mr NDIS fraud was offering high interest rates to Cats players on money they loaned him.

 

[Mostyn]

So now it turns out Mr NDIS fraud was offering high interest rates to Cats players on money they loaned him.

Great - Geelong benefiting from the profits of crime.

Rules don't apply down there.

 

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Who have they brought in though? Danger a decade ago for a mid first and second, Jezza effectively for Kelly lost and now Smith off a knee reco. Am is missing a bunch of top talent acquisitions?

Let's say they hypothetically land Butters.

That would mean that over a period of 10 years they've managed to bring in Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, Bailey Smith and then Butters.

That's 4 high end players that they've brought in, I can't think of another team that has managed to do that.

That's not even including guys like Tuohy, Oliver Henry, Jack Bowes.

They've had a stellar record being able to attract talent, whether it's all completely above board or not is the million dollar question.

The deal between Cotton On and Bailey Smith, while technically legal, has raised a few eyebrows and would definitely be something that the AFL would flag to investigate had it been an interstate side IMO.

 

[ams4crows]

So now it turns out Mr NDIS fraud was offering high interest rates to Cats players on money they loaned him.

So I'm assuming the AFL will look the other way on this case too?

 

[DJ75]

Great - Geelong benefiting from the profits of crime.

Rules don't apply down there.

Might explain why the senior players are always willing to sign contracts on reduced wages.
Love of the club my arse.

 

[jenny61_99]

You can't say "facts are facts" and then back it up with an opinion. I mean you can but it devalues what you are trying to say.

No different to everyone else. We ALL have opinions on the matter.

 

[WeeBlake]

Let's say they hypothetically land Butters.

That would mean that over a period of 10 years they've managed to bring in Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, Bailey Smith and then Butters.

That's 4 high end players that they've brought in, I can't think of another team that has managed to do that.

That's not even including guys like Tuohy, Oliver Henry, Jack Bowes.

They've had a stellar record being able to attract talent, whether it's all completely above board or not is the million dollar question.

The deal between Cotton On and Bailey Smith, while technically legal, has raised a few eyebrows and would definitely be something that the AFL would flag to investigate had it been an interstate side IMO.

I think people underestimate how big an advantage it is to get a Cameron or Dangerfield type player.

These are the actually, genuinely rare elite-level players. You’d need three or four top 5 picks to be remotely confident of getting a player that good.

And also, you get their best years, you don’t have to waste time developing them, you don’t waste games developing other players who don’t turn out. You don’t waste a pile of picks trying to find a genuinely elite player. They just come straight in and perform at the absolute highest level.

The shitty return we got for Danger and that GWS got for Cameron shows the problem with the system. Clubs who can convince an elite player to come make out like bandits.

 

[GROTTO]

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter​

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter

www.foxsports.com.au

 

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I think people underestimate how big an advantage it is to get a Cameron or Dangerfield type player.

These are the actually, genuinely rare elite-level players. You’d need three or four top 5 picks to be remotely confident of getting a player that good.

And also, you get their best years, you don’t have to waste time developing them, you don’t waste games developing other players who don’t turn out. You don’t waste a pile of picks trying to find a genuinely elite player. They just come straight in and perform at the absolute highest level.

The shitty return we got for Danger and that GWS got for Cameron shows the problem with the system. Clubs who can convince an elite player to come make out like bandits.

You've hit the nail on the head.

That's why if they do happen to land Butters that it will be ridiculous because they would have landed 3 of the best players in the comp in the prime of their careers and a 4th (Smith) who has the potential to be one of the best mids in the comp, in a 10 year period.

No other team can boast multiple recruits of that type of caliber over a similar period.

The system is definitely not working if certain teams are continually getting their hands on the cream of the crop while others are struggling to even attract average players.

 

[GreyCrow]

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter​

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter

‘If I catch you, I’ll fix you up’: AFL goalkicking champ chases down and stops shoplifter

www.foxsports.com.au

And a picture of LDU

 

[GreyCrow]

Player contracts need to be in an open forum and up for scrutiny

The only people who dont want it are football industry people because it would expose the whole rotten fetid corpse of the business

 

[119others]

Nothing to see here

Cats donors accused of $14.5m fraud against NDIS provider have assets frozen

A former IT manager is accused in court papers of helping orchestrate a huge fraud. Two days after his arrest, he was tossing the coin before an AFL game.

www.theage.com.au

Despite earning a base salary of $140,000 at genU, Nguyen showered associates with lavish gifts, including overseas holidays, domestic flights, sporting memorabilia and tickets to major events, according to court documents.

A surveillance report included in court documents also revealed Nguyen “attending Kardinia Park (Geelong Football Club) soon after the grand final (2022) and attending a meeting with a recently retired Geelong player”.

How in the **** isn’t the AFL all over this inc the latest revelations? Complete and absolute fn joke.

We would get 5 years of draft sanctions (if we were LUCKY)

 

[spenze]

No different to everyone else. We ALL have opinions on the matter.

Don't try to rain on my parade because I want higher standards

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

How in the **** isn’t the AFL all over this inc the latest revelations? Complete and absolute fn joke.

We would get 5 years of draft sanctions (if we were LUCKY)

Different rules apply to the Cats.

They have got away with far, far, far more than what we did with Tippet-gate.

 

[Brasher]

Different rules apply to the Cats.

They have got away with far, far, far more than what we did with Tippet-gate.

That's what happens when your club is run by an AFL crony like Trigg whilst Geelong plant their favorite sons in AFL House.

 

[119others]

That's what happens when your club is run by an AFL crony like Trigg whilst Geelong plant their favorite sons in AFL House.

Yup. And the media holding clubs fully accountable?….imagine if WE were on the wrong end of this.

I am not normally a conspiracy sort of guy but surely there appears strong evidence that this needs to be a massive story in AFL

Fraudster visits club and players in the hours after GF victory. Fraudster paying non commercial (arms length) interest rate is a massive red flag in itself from everyone from the tax office to mainly the AFL.

Imagine Clipsal corporate bonds offered to Crows players - personally guarantee by Gerald (Rob wasn’t it?) at 10% cash (10-20x the Term Deposit rate at the time) paid monthly. Yup, nothing to see here.

The $100,000 loan contract between Cats legend Joel Selwood and an accused fraudster

Loan documents reveal a man now under police investigation proposed to borrow $100,000 from Selwood, who would be repaid the principal and interest of $10,000 after eight months.

www.theage.com.au

The draft contract between Selwood and Nguyen raises further questions about the relationship between some Cats players and sponsors, and whether such financial relationships should be declared to the club and the AFL.

 

[GreyCrow]

Yeah well Firepower was , wait umm ok they tried

 

[Gtowncrow]

Let's say they hypothetically land Butters.

That would mean that over a period of 10 years they've managed to bring in Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, Bailey Smith and then Butters.

That's 4 high end players that they've brought in, I can't think of another team that has managed to do that.

That's not even including guys like Tuohy, Oliver Henry, Jack Bowes.

They've had a stellar record being able to attract talent, whether it's all completely above board or not is the million dollar question.

The deal between Cotton On and Bailey Smith, while technically legal, has raised a few eyebrows and would definitely be something that the AFL would flag to investigate had it been an interstate side IMO.

I'm not to worried about Bailey Smith and Cotton On connection. It's a very big firm and having a local player probably doesn't change anything. As significant sponsors, they can access all the players they want to satisfy promotion into the local market. IMO, the firm would be better off with their AFL brand ambassador at a higher profile club and a larger market. Think Sydney for example. Geelong is a small place compared to all other AFL club environments.

 

[Mutineer]

MSN

‘Bit crazy’: Bonkers AFL contract signed until 2033​

Young, 23, was already locked in until the end of 2027 after inking a four-year deal in the middle of 2022 but has signed a six-year extension.

He goes past five players who are all contracted until 2032, including GWS star defender Sam Taylor, St Kilda’s Max King and the Western Bulldogs’ Aaron Naughton.


It also makes 22 AFL players contracted to 2030 or beyond.

Gold Coast young gun Mac Andrew signed a deal until 2030 but has a trigger that could take him to 2034, one year beyond Young.

Young was drafted from Victoria as an 18-year-old and said he’d “fallen in love” with the Dockers and Perth.

“It’s super special. When I arrived at the football club, I was welcomed in really well,” he said.

“They obviously took a punt on me at pick 7 as an 18-year-old who had never travelled to Fremantle and didn’t know much about the club.

“In the five years that I’ve been here, I’ve really fallen in love, and I’m super excited that this is where I’m going to be staying for the rest of my career.