Michael Warners article 04/12/24. How woke and hypocritical the afl has become.

[Lavender Bushranger]

All over the world, woke is losing money. If the AFL is profitable, it isn't because they are woke, but in spite of it. Bud Light lost literally billions of dollars in the USA. There was an immediate backlash to the Pubs here in Australia not celebrating Australia day (and then many of them backflipped). The public have hated this stuff for a while now, but the institutions still cling to it, like it's 2019. I'd say everyone on the political right hates it, 90% on the moderate left hate it, but are too cowardly to call it out, and only the extreme left push it mainly to signal how "tolerant" they are.

Woke used to mean alert to social injustice, but words migrate over time. It's now used by people not to push a certain cause but to signal how good a person "they" are. How virtuous "they" are. It's about the person, rather than the cause. If you are normal you care about the issue; if you are woke, you tell everybody that you care about the issue - that's the difference

It's pretty much dying, it just depends how longer the institutions hang on to it, before they "read the room". Boeing just disbanded their D.E.I department last month and are now just focusing on merit. Lots of others are doing it too.

That's not true.

Almost all organisations are 'woke' to some degree. And almost all of them are better off financially for it.

Ironically, even FoxNews makes sure they have representation from all the demographics they're hoping to appeal to.

But for some reason, that's not them ramming their opinions down our throats and virtue signalling?

Weird.

 

[Bostonian]

Using the word "trigger" and phrases like "looney left" while talking about caricatures, think you might be projecting bud.

It aptly describes the actions and mind set of the people that push these weirdo views.

Are people who use words like "Nazi" and "Fascist" to describe anyone from the centre to the right also projecting?

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Thinking that boomers can’t show empathy, compassion or inclusion….. that’s not woke but I can think of a dozen other words that it is. But I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings and have them feeling assaulted on an internet forum.

I swear this is one the the funniest things of all time. People on the Right whining about petty stuff constantly, and in the same breath whining about the fact that people on the left whine about everything.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Now woke can refer to utterly ludicrous and caricature like people who are found on the left of the political spectrum.

Sorry man, but I still don't understand what it means.

Honestly, I don't think anyone does.

 

[Kappa]

Never, ever, ever take seriously anyone who unironically uses the word 'woke'.

So... what word do you use for a supreme court judge who cannot define what a women is?

 

[SSwans2011]

It aptly describes the actions and mind set of the people that push these weirdo views.

Are people who use words like "Nazi" and "Fascist" to describe anyone from the centre to the right also projecting?

Now you shift to the whataboutism because you managed to muster up the self-awareness to realise you're exactly what you bemoan - classic.

You're the one using the words "Nazi" and "Fascist" because you have to create a false narrative to argue against because your whole argument was birthed by hypocrisy.

Next up you'll be talking about culture wars even though you're the culture war mongerer creating labels for people you disagree with.

 

[Bostonian]

Sorry man, but I still don't understand what it means.

Honestly, I don't think anyone does.

Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain minorities in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm.

The savior complex is strong on BF.

 

[Pistol Night]

So... what word do you use for a supreme court judge who cannot define what a women is?

Married

 

[Bostonian]

Now you shift to the whataboutism because you managed to muster up the self-awareness to realise you're exactly what you bemoan - classic.

You're the one using the words "Nazi" and "Fascist" because you have to create a false narrative to argue against because your whole argument was birthed by hypocrisy.

Next up you'll be talking about culture wars even though you're the culture war mongerer creating labels for people you disagree with.

The only people who cry whataboutism are the ones whose nonsense argument gets exposed for being nonsense.

They are the creators of the hypocrisy.

I used those words to point out the absurdity of your argument.


Cultures are the most worthless bullshit thing going around. Like the clowns who don't celebrate their own "culture" but then claim we all should care and respect about other pointless "cultures".

Anyone who panders to any kind of culture is pathetic.

 

[SSwans2011]

The only people who cry whataboutism are the ones whose nonsense argument gets exposed for being nonsense.

They are the creators of the hypocrisy.

I used those words to point out the absurdity of your argument.


Cultures are the most worthless bullshit thing going around. Like the clowns who don't celebrate their own "culture" but then claim we all should care and respect about other pointless "cultures".

Anyone who panders to any kind of culture is pathetic.

Seems we can find common ground then on Australia Day being a crock of shit. May as well trade it for another public holiday to placate people that have an issue with it. Cultures are the most worthless bullshit thing anyway, right?

 

[Bostonian]

Seems we can find common ground then on Australia Day being a crock of shit. May as well trade it for another public holiday to placate people that have an issue with it. Cultures are the most worthless bullshit thing anyway, right?

Australia day is as much of a crock of shit as welcome to country is.

Sounds like a fair trade off, get rid of both.

Deal?

 

[Pistol Night]

Australia day is as much of a crock of shit as welcome to country is.

Sounds like a fair trade off, get rid of both.

Deal?

Can we chuck in Valentines Day too

 

[Bostonian]

Can we chuck in Valentines Day too

Would save us blokes some $, I'm in!

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

So... what word do you use for a supreme court judge who cannot define what a women is?

I'd say she's smart and logical. And correct.

The bible bashers don't like to hear that Adam and Eve was bullshit - but it's true.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Umbrella term for individuals who are engrossed by social justice and thinks of themselves as saviors with a moral high ground, but remain willfully ignorant to the irrationality of their claims and the problems they create. These individuals give special treatment to certain minorities in hopes of ending racism and perpetuate mental illnesses as the norm.

The savior complex is strong on BF.

Ok. Gotcha.


So it's used incorrectly and out of context almost every time I've heard and read it used.

 

[SSwans2011]

Australia day is as much of a crock of shit as welcome to country is.

Sounds like a fair trade off, get rid of both.

Why does there need to be a trade off? Shouldn't bother you regardless if your beliefs are consistent.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Australia day is as much of a crock of shit as welcome to country is.

Sounds like a fair trade off, get rid of both.

Deal?

Maybe I'm a weirdo - but I really like both.

 

[Bostonian]

Ok. Gotcha.


So it's used incorrectly and out of context almost every time I've heard and read it used.

I'd say it sums up perfectly many on these forums.

 

[Bostonian]

Maybe I'm a weirdo - but I really like both.

And you can be as weird as you want.

Just as people can dislike you or mock you for being a weirdo.

 

[Bostonian]

Why does there need to be a trade off? Shouldn't bother you regardless if your beliefs are consistent.

Because to move forward both sides will need to relent on something.

You think if they get rid of Australia Day and then ramp up the welcome to country waffle that's going to bring people together?

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I'd say it sums up perfectly many on these forums.

I don't.

There's definitely some that fit that definition - but very few in terms of a % on the 'left'.

It seems you only need to remotely disagree with something that the Right political parties are pushing to be labelled as 'woke'.

That's a very different to what you described.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

And you can be as weird as you want.

Just as people can dislike you or mock you for being a weirdo.

I have no issue with that.

Personally I don't see a reason to mock or dislike people because they disagree with you or are different - but I'm a realist. It's how many people roll.

 

[Bostonian]

I don't.

There's definitely some that fit that definition - but very few in terms of a % on the 'left'.

It seems you only need to remotely disagree with something that the Right political parties are pushing to be labelled as 'woke'.

That's a very different to what you described.

The word doesn't need a defined definition anymore.

It's started to become toxic so in the end the right might win by corrupting the word so much it becomes poison.

 

[Bostonian]

I have no issue with that.

Personally I don't see a reason to mock or dislike people because they disagree with you or are different - but I'm a realist. It's how many people roll.

Agreed.

It's human nature. As are many things that people get worked up over.

 

[SSwans2011]

Because to move forward both sides will need to relent on something.

You think if they get rid of Australia Day and then ramp up the welcome to country waffle that's going to bring people together?

You're propagating a culture war again, splitting people into "sides".