Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott - Will appear on AFL360 coaches night on Monday 24th

[Yoda_]

As much as I have bashed Scott over the past year, it’s never as bad as what it seems.

I don’t agree with the idea we’ll be uncompetitive for the next few years. Situations can change very quickly.

too many square pegs in round holes is my gripe at the moment. Even if player 'x' is doing a passable job, the idea of having a top end calibre player in said position excites me more.

Looks at, Hobbs (HFF), Shiel (HBF), Jones (Wng), Draper (FF)

 

[FootyGuru]

I think we are rebuilding, and shouldn’t expect us to play finals. But people are acting like the season is over. Hawthorn lost their first 5 last season and we were second on the ladder 3qtrs through the season.

There are plenty more ups and downs on this seasons roller coaster, and who knows how high we can fly, but take everything with a grain of salt knowing we are fielding a super young side

 

[Yoda_]

Sure, but there is no excuse for lack of effort. Even if shit or young.
This team proved in the pre season game against Geelong they can get numbers to every contest.

Now if they can't, then it's either workmate or Brad Scotts gameplan/structure.

effort in a professional environment is a non negotiable. I instil that in my junior netball side I coach. You want to play, you give 110% effort. IF you don,t sit down and someone who will is on the court ahead of you.

 

[Yoda_]

I think we are rebuilding, and shouldn’t expect us to play finals. But people are acting like the season is over. Hawthorn lost their first 5 last season and we were second on the ladder 3qtrs through the season.

There are plenty more ups and downs on this seasons roller coaster, and who knows how high we can fly, but take everything with a grain of salt knowing we are fielding a super young side

People were asking about Hawthorn as a potential flag favourite andAdelaide on the form they have shown over rounds 1 & 2 could be in the conversation for top 4. Sure, we haven't acquitted ourselves greatly but the two sides who have torched us are expected to be pretty bloody good this year.


Perspective is everything

 

[Yoda_]

Dont think anyone is calling for blood per say, but when you make stupid decisions like extending the coach for utterly dumb reasons, they are entitled to be mauled for it. "stability" lol what a bunch of absolute rubbish.

if we continue to make dumb decisions like that, then we do this actually turn around? At every fork in the road, Essendon seemingly ALWAYS take the wrong turn, and the supporters are left to hope and pray it was the right one. It never is.

The club is far better IMO to look its supporters in the eye and be honest with where it's at, than attempting to move chess pieces acting like we are dumbasses who can't see it.

The decision is not a dumb one, people just need to it simplified to understand it.

 

[Runk]

In 2016 we were appreciably more experienced as a playing list than we are now.

Round 1 2016 we played 2 draftees and one was Walla, a mature aged recruit.

This side makes that side look ancient.

Would you say more experience but with less talent or more experience and same talent?

 

[Yoda_]

My take on the situation is people are so obsessed with the natural progression of coaches / clubs that they are unable to fathom any other direction or route that could happen.


Sure, Scott has been here 2 years but lets break it down this way;

Year 1; take a good look at the list despite not having any say over said list
Year 2; Have a good look at the list and see what we can do with said list

Year 3 (and this is the crucial one), list has been overstated and oversold to everybody that we need to strip back and start from zero.

Year 4; hopefully the trees are starting to bear fruit on what year 3 was. Give every opportunity to the young guys and see if they can take the keys from the mainstays

Year 5; (this is the extension he received) should be bearing fruits of the rebuild in year 3. If by midway through this and we are not moving in a forward direction then obviously blood will be wanted and Hird will be wanted again (dont go there)



I understand why they have done it, the club just needs to come out and own the decision (to extend Scott's contract). Leaving it to interpretation and the simpletons in the media to add as much hyperbole onto a story as they want and we make our own case for clown of the year.

 

[jmoo wan]

effort in a professional environment is a non negotiable. I instil that in my junior netball side I coach. You want to play, you give 110% effort. IF you don,t sit down and someone who will is on the court ahead of you.

sometimes it’s just about showing up

 

[Yoda_]

sometimes it’s just about showing up

yep, agreed. Unfortunately even in professional sport they are still people who have personal issues going on

 

[andleanback]

Thought it was a pretty good presser from brad, called a spade a spade. Was pretty funny what he said about caddy

 

[Agronomus]

That is why I find those calling for Hobbs to be dropped a little amusing. Yes it is a longer term issue but he is a competitor and we lack competitors. Not saying you are calling for it

Just let Shiel, Menzie, Prior, Parish, Redman, Hobbs even Tsatas now cop all the shit and save our precious young future from the mental scars coming

 

[ghostdog]

No one's asking Scott to turn shit into gold. No one's suggesting Scotts measure of success is winning a grand final

he just needs to show some type of improvement; 2 years is enough IMO to do that. That improvement can be as little as not losing games in the same fashion every week by something like a lack of effort.

We have regressed under him, and we are doing it in the same repeatable ways we have seen for going on 3 years now.

Why is Scott saying our training standards are shit 3 years into him being the head coach? He's talking like this is his first year? What has he been doing the last 2 years?

Clubs we were better than last year, have leap frogged us. I shit you not, we will lose to North Melbourne at this rate.

Are not improved training standards "some type of improvement?" If he's saying they haven't improved, that to me indicates high expectations, but there are plenty of track watchers in these parts who are saying it's been as intense as it's ever been.

I would prefer we didn't lose games either, but I would have thought that mostly over the last year our endeavour has looked different. Yes we've had some blow outs, but as many have said previously, improvement is not linear.

 

[Petrify]

Actually a great presser from Scott. Gave a lot of the right responses.

 

[dank420_]

sometimes it’s just about showing up

And returning the van

 

[Lore]

In 2016 we were appreciably more experienced as a playing list than we are now.

Round 1 2016 we played 2 draftees and one was Walla, a mature aged recruit.

This side makes that side look ancient.

Imagine the squad we have now and then take out the twelve blokes who happened to still be on the list from 4 years ago (if we even have 12 left…) This year is not far off 2016 without top ups, particularly with the injuries we’ve started with (Ridley, Parish, Langford).

 

[emblurr]

Sorry for the intrusion, but the year North sacked 4 veterans (Boomer, Spud Firrito, Petrie, Nick Dal Santo) he explicitly said one reason he had to do it was because otherwise he would keep playing them. He really should write an essay on his selection philosophies, as perverse as they are.

You're referring to Scott dropping oldies like Dylan Shiel. He got dropped to the VFL last year for 9 games. He's very droppable. Even Goldstein is playing VFL.

 

[ant555]

I think we are rebuilding, and shouldn’t expect us to play finals. But people are acting like the season is over. Hawthorn lost their first 5 last season and we were second on the ladder 3qtrs through the season.

There are plenty more ups and downs on this seasons roller coaster, and who knows how high we can fly, but take everything with a grain of salt knowing we are fielding a super young side

Agree.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Are not improved training standards "some type of improvement?" If he's saying they haven't improved, that to me indicates high expectations, but there are plenty of track watchers in these parts who are saying it's been as intense as it's ever been.

I would prefer we didn't lose games either, but I would have thought that mostly over the last year our endeavour has looked different. Yes we've had some blow outs, but as many have said previously, improvement is not linear.

Improved training standards after 2 full years?

might need a bit more than that....

 

[HirdsTheWord]

The decision is not a dumb one, people just need to it simplified to understand it.

Nah. it is very dumb.

 

[Zach Package]

Sorry for the intrusion, but the year North sacked 4 veterans (Boomer, Spud Firrito, Petrie, Nick Dal Santo) he explicitly said one reason he had to do it was because otherwise he would keep playing them. He really should write an essay on his selection philosophies, as perverse as they are.

Reckon that is about our 300th biggest issue with him my dude.

 

[ghostdog]

Improved training standards after 2 full years?

might need a bit more than that....

So by "Some type of improvement", what you mean is more Ws. Okay.

 

[Andronicus]

sometimes it’s just about showing up

Covid taught me that every job can be done remotely.

 

[jmoo wan]

Covid taught me that every job can be done remotely.

or not at all!

 

[Old Campaigner]

Covid taught me that every job can be done remotely.

#vanlife

 

[DERO]

Look, we are getting way off topic here! I’d hate for any of you to cop a van.