News Matthew Clarke - Man of Mystery
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Moppey 3 votes BOG on this thread.
In 2016 he had our recruiters having failed for years beforehand wanted a royal enquiry, everyone sacked all positions spilled, heads to roll.....cue dominant Tiger dynasty winning 3 flags in next 4 years.
probably one of these muppets
on that note, feel like FJ was a bit hard done by - copped all the flak until the reigns were handed over to Clarke end of 2016, then little credit after for our dynastyMoppey 3 votes BOG on this thread.
In 2016 he had our recruiters having failed for years beforehand wanted a royal enquiry, everyone sacked all positions spilled, heads to roll.....cue dominant Tiger dynasty winning 3 flags in next 4 years.
Can anyone name these four
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One of them was the club doctor for a spell.
TBH don’t mind they had a crack. Got our arses into gear didn’t it
TBH don’t mind they had a crack. Got our arses into gear didn’t it
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He’s under the tutulege of one the great recruiters in the modern era in FJ , he’s going alright
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PTSD inducing image... Those were dark times on this board.
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File under sui generis!Sounds like a very modern approach...
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It's probably our best off season ever, considering what we had.
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Slightly better than that too, Kosi cost us pick 48, we also received pick 41 this year in the Soldo trade
Im actually quite proud of this post but im going to ignore a certain nuffy rather than get into a slanging match. All i can say is i hope all supporters just don't blindly follow and continue to ask questions.
Just on Clarke since he has been in charge of recruiting at the club It includes ND and rookie drafts.
But excludes trades and f/a as i dont know what his input is in these areas.
2017
17 Higgins fail
20 CCJ fail
25 Balta pass
34 Naish fail
63 Miller fail to date.
Rookies
Baker pass
DES fail
One great rookie pick on a small utility and a good kpd who should get better.
2018
20 RCD fail
43 Ross pass
58 Turner fail
62 English fail
Rookies
Aarts fail
Townsend fail
Weller fail
Stack fail
One average medium mid
2019
Msd Pickett pass
21 Dow fail to date
43 Cumberland could go either way
44 Martyn fail
46 Ralphsmith likely fail
54 Nyuon fail.
Okay some hope but can only give Pickett a pass as a very mature msd pick for now.
2020
40 Ryan ??
51 Rioli ?
Rookies
Colina fail
Parker fail
Miller fail to date
Des fail
Mansell fail
Nothing to date imo, it may get better but the clock is ticking.
2021
9 Gibcus pass
17 Brown ?
28 Sonsie ?
29 Banks ?
30 Clarke?
Rookie
Nyuon fail
2022
49 Smith ?
55 Green ?
Rookies
Coulthard ?
Trezise ?
Campbell ?
2023
40 McAuliffe ?
43 Fawcett ?
Young Pass to date.
Last three drafts too early to call. Lot of hope in the 2021 draft it needs to be very successful or we will be in big trouble.
Since 2017 when he took over i count just 4 passes to date. Some may disagree thats fine.
Questions do need to be asked but im going to leave them for others if they wish to do so. Not likely people will want to rock the boat around here..
Just on FJ. He had control of drafting for 12 years we did not win a final in that time and the lack of success culminated in a board challenge which failed but was the catalyst for massive over haul within the club.
It included his demotion from head recruiter to part time and his underling Clarke getting the top job.
FJ while in charge had 41 rookie picks give or take. He found just 6 players over just three drafts imo..
FJ while in charge had 51 nd and psd picks on kids, he found just 19 and im including what i would describe as some ordinary players.
With that many picks and that time span just about any recruiter worth his salt would have done at worst what FJ delivered
The club along with Clarke clearly were not happy with Fj in 2016 the clubs actions confirm this. in fact the vast majority of supporters were disgruntled and wanted a change of direction of some sorts.
Well we got a massive over haul and the rest is history.
You provide rich pickings as usual Mopsy, you are one of the best in the business when it comes to that.
So let me get this straight....
Frank Jackson was no good as head of recruiting because we did not win a final in the period he was head of recruiting. And Matthew Clarke is no good because he only has 4 passable recruits so far since he has been in charge of recruiting.
What ****ing miserable heads of recruiting we have had then Mopsy. Dire. How on earth we managed to land a triple flag + minor Premiership dynasty in the midst of this is a total mystery.
Jackson cannot get credit for that because whilst he was ultimately responsible for recruiting almost every Premiership player in our dynasty, alas we did not win a final while he was in charge. Too bad Frank. And Casino Clarke doesn't get any credit because he wasn't in charge when nearly all the flag players were recruited. Too bad Matt.So who gets credit?
a) The gun WA recruiter
b) Williams who joined in 2014
c) Greg Miller
d) anyone could have chosen Dusty....although somebody had the chance, and didn't
e) Cotchin, Riewoldt, Edwards, Rance, Astbury, Dusty all chose themselves. When it was Richmond's pick and we were on the clock they hacked the system and locked themselves in for us. Anyone could have chosen them...except perhaps the 15 clubs that about 90 picks between them before all these players were taken
f) laura vavridges meant we had to get some right eventually, the recruiters can't take credit for that
g) our development coaches, and strategy coaches, especially Caracella.
So really, Laura Vavridges, Greg Miller, the WA recruiter, the players themselves, our development coaches, Caracella and Williams takes full credit between them for all the passable recruits since 2006 that led to a 3 flag + minor dynasty, and Frank Jackson and Casino Clarke between themselves take full responsibility and blame for all the failed recruits since 2006. Every last one of them.
By the way, this dynasty that had absolutely nothing at all to do with the only 2 heads of recruiting we have had since 2006, commenced 2 years after the last dynasty finished. And that last dynasty before ours commenced 2 years after the one before that finished, and the one before that commenced 3 years after the one before that finished. And here we are already 3 years post our dynasty and there are no signs of any new dynasties on the horizon.
It is almost like dynasties are not that easy to come by in the last 7 years.
You should be so proud of this post that correctly identified that all of the recruiting that led to our dynasty had absolutely nothing to do with either of the heads of recruiting that were employed by the club during the relevant period. Anyone with a less trained eye than yourself Mopsy, especially nuffies like me would have sworn our 3 flag + minor dynasty list was compiled under the auspices of Clarke and Jackson and that they were then ultimately responsible for it.
Like you say Mopsy, we need to keep asking the tough questions because this is seriously not good enough. Keep up the great work mate.
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Oh and recruiting being a game where you ultimately need to add 2 players per season to your best 22.... how dare Matt Clarke only come up with Balta, Baker, Ross, Pickett, Lynch, Rioli Jnr, Gibcus, Young, Taranto, Hopper and likely Koschitzke into a current best 22 that was already crowded by the acquisitions of Short, Broad, D. Rioli, Bolton, Graham, Nankervis, Rioli, Prestia in the 3 previous off-seasons. How dare he recruit another raft of players who remain on the list but have not forced their way into the best 22 by now at the expense of the previously drafted D Martin, D Grimes, N Vlastuin, K McIntosh. Any recruiter should have a minimum expectation of recruiting sufficient quality so that there are upwards of 40 best 22 players at the club at any given time.
Shocking stuff this Mopsy. Stay on it mate, club needs people like you asking the hard questions....like why hasn't a rookie pick from the 2022 off season who was injured for almost all of 2023 not found his way into the best 22 yet. Egregious recruiting that.
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We have now been able to run a make on Moppey and discovered his exact true identity....
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You can just see the insightful tough question asking look in those magnificent eyes.
I don’t know the guy. I have been told he is a passionate supporter and kicks in a fair wedge. Let’s not be dickheads about it
Unfortunately for him, due to having a quite unfashionable hairstyle and being the shortest of the men in his group inter alia, and the Richmond board leading the club to 3 flags in 4 years right after he was a key part of the putsch to overthrow them, he has become a lightning rod for high spirited supporters looking for a bit of fun at the expense of the likes of Moppey
If he is a passionate supporter he won't mind us taking a rise out of him. He probably doesn't really look like that anyway, was just having a bad hair day, and the other blokes were wearing heels.
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Unfortunately for him, due to having a quite unfashionable hairstyle and being the shortest of the men in his group inter alia, and the Richmond board leading the club to 3 flags in 4 years right after he was a key part of the putsch to overthrow them, he has become a lightning rod for high spirited supporters looking for a bit of fun at the expense of the likes of Moppey
If he is a passionate supporter he won't wind us taking a rise out of him. He probably doesn't really look like that anyway, was just having a bad hair day, and the other blokes were wearing heels.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I’m just saying there’s a a lot of people that care about the club and they go about in their way.
We shouldn’t hang shit on them in the manner in which they do it unless it’s a shit show. Granted theirs was but after 2016 most on the board were sick of the mediocrity. I was. Don’t know any of them and thought it was a stupid thing to do but good on them for having a crack. That’s the beauty of our constitution. Have a go.
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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
are the afl going to punish us for making a mockery of their stupid draft ?
We are the AFL...
