Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[Jane Doe]

kind of amusing watching conservatives, Qookers and other assorted whack-jobs pushing various anti-left/anti-woke/anti-dan viewpoints try and turn road pot holes into some sort of electoral 'end of times' issue that will propel us into a new age of far right enlightenment

So you think the state is in a good position? Victoria is a basket case. The state of our roads is just the start of it.

 

[adogsfan5]

kind of amusing watching conservatives, Qookers and other assorted whack-jobs pushing various anti-left/anti-woke/anti-dan viewpoints try and turn road pot holes into some sort of electoral 'end of times' issue that will propel us into a new age of far right enlightenment

Pot holes and the state of our roads is a mess. Calling that out and saying it’s a problem, doesn’t make someone a “qooker”. They are all over the place in the eastern suburbs and some are actually pretty bad.

Maybe try and start having some BASIC expectations from your government.

 

[peetoo]

So you think the state is in a good position? Victoria is a basket case. The state of our roads is just the start of it.

We should be like the USA and declassify roads which don’t get much use. More resources for the ones left

Not that I’m denying these is a pothole problem

 

[Carn The Berries]

kind of amusing watching conservatives, Qookers and other assorted whack-jobs pushing various anti-left/anti-woke/anti-dan viewpoints try and turn road pot holes into some sort of electoral 'end of times' issue that will propel us into a new age of far right enlightenment

Have you driven on a country or rural road lately? Plenty of "left-wing" people in my part of the world would very much like something to be done about the state of our roads.

We can cough up $1bn for an event that we didn't even hold, but I can't drive to work without worrying about losing my car in a pot hole.

This isn't a play to "get" the Premier, it's people expecting a basic level of public infrastructure.

 

[peetoo]

Wouldn’t have anything to do with successive govts slicing and dicing vicroads would it?

Be aware vicroads is just major roads not suburban streets

 

[Carn The Berries]

Wouldn’t have anything to do with successive govts slicing and dicing vicroads would it?

Be aware vicroads is just major roads not suburban streets

There was plenty of money available to put in 1,000's of kms of wire barriers, but apparently not enough to fix the actual roads themselves

 

[eddiesmith]

kind of amusing watching conservatives, Qookers and other assorted whack-jobs pushing various anti-left/anti-woke/anti-dan viewpoints try and turn road pot holes into some sort of electoral 'end of times' issue that will propel us into a new age of far right enlightenment

Kind of amusing your head is far up Jacinta’s ass you think the government is not actually responsible for anything in this state.

Police- Not their problem
Ambulance- not their problem
Health- not their problem
Fire services- not their problem
Roads- not their problem

Just what do you think your dear leader is actually responsible for other than cosplaying in orange vests?

 

[Saint]

I mean, they did already dedicate a billion dollars to this problem in October.

This is like the rail tunnel malarkey.

Road Maintenance Blitz Revs Up Across Regional Victoria

The Allan Labor Government is rolling out a major road maintenance blitz to rebuild, repair, and resurface roads right across Victoria – fueled by the largest single-year investment in road maintenance in the state’s history.Minister for Roads and Road Safety Melissa Horne today launched the...

www.premier.vic.gov.au

People in most of Victoria have no idea how bad the B and C-Class roads west of Colac are. They make the odd pothole in the outer-suburbs here look like a grand prix track.

There are c-class roads out near Macarthur which would be bad Council roads.

 

[Gralin]

Have you driven on a country or rural road lately? Plenty of "left-wing" people in my part of the world would very much like something to be done about the state of our roads.

We can cough up $1bn for an event that we didn't even hold, but I can't drive to work without worrying about losing my car in a pot hole.

This isn't a play to "get" the Premier, it's people expecting a basic level of public infrastructure.

this is not a new issue around maintenance budgets

maybe its worse currently or maybe its the same but the years of under funding are finally catching up


or maybe the climate getting worse means things like roads are deteriorating quicker because the floods and stuff have absolutely wrecked roads the last few years

the problem is bipartisan though Politicians love a ribbon cutting exercise and they put money into building stuff but not maintaining it

of course things like the commonwealth games don't help

I really hate the amount of money all governments spend on professional sports its such a waste when things like basic public infrastructure and services are not getting funded properly

 

[Carn The Berries]

this is not a new issue around maintenance budgets

maybe its worse currently or maybe its the same but the years of under funding are finally catching up


or maybe the climate getting worse means things like roads are deteriorating quicker because the floods and stuff have absolutely wrecked roads the last few years

the problem is bipartisan though Politicians love a ribbon cutting exercise and they put money into building stuff but not maintaining it

of course things like the commonwealth games don't help

I really hate the amount of money all governments spend on professional sports its such a waste when things like basic public infrastructure and services are not getting funded properly

Wouldn't have thought that would be the reason for the Calder highway breaking up like a 5th day WACA pitch... There may be some isolated cases where this is true, but it's not the main reason.

 

[Gralin]

Wouldn't have thought that would be the reason for the Calder highway breaking up like a 5th day WACA pitch... There may be some isolated cases where this is true, but it's not the main reason.

weather impacts roads as does the amount and weight of traffic on those roads

we're getting more vehicles and heavier vehicles on roads, that is going to mean they deteriorate quicker

more extreme weather exacerbates that

when maintenance budgets don't cover maintenance requirements over time more and more roads are going to be in worse condition

the really heavy rains and floods in 2022 and 2023 absolutely wrecked roads

 

[Carn The Berries]

weather impacts roads as does the amount and weight of traffic on those roads

we're getting more vehicles and heavier vehicles on roads, that is going to mean they deteriorate quicker

more extreme weather exacerbates that

when maintenance budgets don't cover maintenance requirements over time more and more roads are going to be in worse condition

the really heavy rains and floods in 2022 and 2023 absolutely wrecked roads

Seems like changing the goalposts a bit there. There wasn't any mention of heavier and more frequent vehicle movements in your first post...

I'm not disputing that heavy rain has caused some damage, just questioning how much of the widespread damage we're discussing here is climate related. You've now gone and put a whole lot of caveats on your initial statement.

 

[Gralin]

Seems like changing the goalposts a bit there. There wasn't any mention of heavier and more frequent vehicle movements in your first post...

I'm not disputing that heavy rain has caused some damage, just questioning how much of the widespread damage we're discussing here is climate related. You've now gone and put a whole lot of caveats on your initial statement.

no ive expanded on it seeing as you seem to think road damage is some sort of mysterious thing

 

[chickenonachain]

There was plenty of money available to put in 1,000's of kms of wire barriers, but apparently not enough to fix the actual roads themselves

My theory on this is someone in the gov or public service have shared or an interest in the company that erect those barriers hence plenty of money found to build them. But what do I know ?

 

[Carn The Berries]

My theory on this is someone in the gov or public service have shared or an interest in the company that erect those barriers hence plenty of money found to build them. But what do I know ?

Would not surprise me at all... Nor would it if there was never a follow up as to what impact they have had on the road toll (which was the reason behind their installation).

 

[Rob R]

My theory on this is someone in the gov or public service have shared or an interest in the company that erect those barriers hence plenty of money found to build them. But what do I know ?

Surely not, it is purely a coincidence that the same foreign government that kept funding Dan's junkets owns the companies that made the wire and the construction company that installed them. Luckily IBAC will find out the truth but that's right, Dan defunded them.

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