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I am not sure. Most clubs these days tend to try and do good faith trades where possible even though they could easily walk to the PSD. However I could see them trying to package up a bank of draft picks using trades like Crouch, Sholl, Himmelberg etc. However, Rankine would not be the only trade target which also means they may wish to use those picks. The Crows are rumoured to be after a Ruckmen (whether true or not, I am not sure).
The trade I think that could happen is Pick 6, series of steak Knife picks. GC send us Rankine and a return of steak knife picks of a future second rounder. But we have to pay for someone we are making a godfather offer.
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Interesting times ....
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But still an "uncontracted" Rankine .....if he were contracted, I can see #6 used
I also believe Rankine wouldn't want the PSD used in any negotiations
There's so much to playout, I wouldn't be hungup on any trade deals at this point
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This will hopefully be a win-win trade. We have some players that could be useful to where Gold Coast are headed.
I'm guessing our first either this year or next will likely be involved.
Was pick 3 originally and hasnt shown any less than a huge ceiling.
I'm guessing our first either this year or next will likely be involved.
Was pick 3 originally and hasnt shown any less than a huge ceiling.
No, but no club looks to screw anyone over these days. As much as fans would like to think so as part of the best deal possible.
As much as I think Chayce will be a good first 22 player for us for many years, I'd be willing to trade Chayce to North Melbourne.
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Is Chayce willing to be traded to North though?
I posted this on the list management thread, but I would propose:
4 to Sydney for 16 and 17 (works in Adelaide's favour by equivalent pick 61 - but for Sydney top end talent would be very tempting).
16 to Gold Coast for Rankine
17 and 2023 first for JHF
Happy to throw in Jones as well for North (Tassie connection), they could give a second back (they probably would quibble at a second but the club might do it, that's three firsts with a second back, aka the original deal).
From what I've heard he is 100% a professional footballer first. He probably wouldn't want to go, but once a club says to a player we want to trade you, you just want to leave, aka Burton getting tapped to trade to Port for Wingard, they just looked at the closest SA boy who had value as a first rounder (similar players too).
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playstation I know, but I think we could do better.
If we stay with a top 5 pick, we might have a side like St Kilda or Western Bulldogs say that might entertain a trade for their 1st this year and 1st next year (depending what the gap between the 2022 1sts is, we might need to pass on our 2023 2nd in that).
That way we could give GC a pick around 10-12 this year and then still have 2 x 2023 1sts for a play at JHF if that was the play.
It’s a tough situation to be in, Rankine would be a fantastic get for us, which would enable Rachele to be rotated in the midfield. I’m definite that Rankine would be worth our first pick in their eyes, problem is that he’s out of contract which makes his value lower. I just don’t want to budge on our first pick this year as we need a game changing midfielder, but I don’t think GC would be enticed with our first for next year.
Yep, pick 5 is an asset we should just trade without consulting GC. Then offer a fairer value/ slightly under. I like the St Kilda option, that would be pick 10 and possible 12 next year, we could throw in future third (pick 40?). Risky for the Saints, but the temptation of Sheezel or Tsatas could be too much.
I'm pretty sure a club has done that before, just traded out their most valuable pick, then started negotiating. Can't remember who though.
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Particular reason you think gold coast would accept just pick 16? If we're paying near 800k the trade has to reflect that worth.
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Cameron was $700k.
The money we pay them has nothing to do with the amount IN ADDITION we have to pay their club to let them go.
If anyty, paying the player more means we have less need to give anything to the club
I just don't see the correlation between what we are paying and his trade value, would love to know what that is?
I think his worth in a redraft of 2018 is pick 9, so 4 is overs and 16 is under. But if all we have is 16, then what can Gold Coast do? They would have to make the trade.
If we can get 2 x better picks, e.g. St Kilda like Crow till I die suggested above, that could work even better.
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He was playing reserves last year.
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Why?
We're paying him that much to choose us over other clubs. That gives GCS LESS bargaining position.
He's only coming to us, and we'd be fools to overpay with picks when we could offer a balloon payment that other sides couldn't match
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These comparison’s are BS though because teams rarely ever trade out top 5 picks for other picks further down the list and when they do they want the bloody world for them!
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First thing we try to do is 2023 1st.
Next is 2022 1st for Rankine and one or two of GCS' 2nd round picks, which SURELY they'll be looking to move on. Maybe we add a 2023 3rd?
Next is 2022 1st for Rankine and one or two of GCS' 2nd round picks, which SURELY they'll be looking to move on. Maybe we add a 2023 3rd?
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Suns adopting the 'you're really special to us, please don't go' model. It's almost vomit inducing:
Gold Coast’s leadership group has made an impassioned plea for out-of-contract young star Izak Rankine to reject Adelaide’s advances and remain a Sun.
News Corp revealed last week that the Crows were making a major play for Rankine, offering him a five-year deal worth as much as $800,000 per season to return to his home state.
Gold Coast is highly unlikely to match that financial offer and will instead rely on convincing him that his best chance of realising his potential is at the Suns, while still being willing to pay him about $650,000 a year.
Adelaide is increasingly confident that Rankine will request a trade to play for Matthew Nicks’ side but that wouldn’t come until after Gold Coast’s season ends.
Suns chairman Tony Cochrane told News Corp on Monday they would do “all we can to retain him”.
“I think the club has proven over four years we’re doing everything possible to keep him there and obviously he’s a required player,” Cochrane said.
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“We’ve got a great association and relationship with Izak, as has everybody around the club. He’s bought a house up here, he’s very much settled in up here, so that’s just our position for the momnt.
“He’s an incredibly popular person around the club. I know first-hand how much time and effort people like (coach) Stuart Dew have put into him and, importantly, I know how highly Stuart rates him.
“He’s got that message loud and clear at the Gold Coast footy club.”
Co-captain Touk Miller also made clear that convincing the “special” small forward to stay was a top priority, having already re-signed Ben King, Jack Lukosius, Ben Ainsworth, Elijah Hollands and Mac Andrew this year.
“I know there’s a lot of speculation around him and his future, but for us we really want him to be at this club. He’s a special person, special player,” Miller said.
“We’ve gone to him and had a few chats about how much he means to us and means to the club, so whether that plays a part in the decision, hopefully it does.
“As a leadership group; that’s part of what you have to do. This club wants success, and he can be a key part of that.”
Miller sympathised with Rankine’s situation as he weighs up a career- and life-changing decision, especially with the Suns looking to have turned the corner as a club.
“I know speculation like that can make it really hard around the club and can make things awkward and nervous, but we want him to feel as comfortable as possible, feel like he can still be himself and play his best footy,” he said.
“He’s human. I can say it’s not easy for him and you probably do have your head down a bit more. In saying that, we’ve still got a lot of good things out of him on game day.
“I’m not in his head, I can’t exactly say what he’s going to do, but we really want him to stay. He’s such a special part and key part to our club going forward. We’d love to have him.”
Miller was famously forthright with ex-Gold Coast co-captain Tom Lynch when he revealed in 2018 he was exercising his free agency rights to join Richmond after meeting with several Melbourne-based clubs.
Suns plea for Rankine to reject Crows’ offer
Gold Coast’s leadership group has made an impassioned plea for out-of-contract young star Izak Rankine to reject Adelaide’s advances and remain a Sun.
News Corp revealed last week that the Crows were making a major play for Rankine, offering him a five-year deal worth as much as $800,000 per season to return to his home state.
Gold Coast is highly unlikely to match that financial offer and will instead rely on convincing him that his best chance of realising his potential is at the Suns, while still being willing to pay him about $650,000 a year.
Adelaide is increasingly confident that Rankine will request a trade to play for Matthew Nicks’ side but that wouldn’t come until after Gold Coast’s season ends.
Suns chairman Tony Cochrane told News Corp on Monday they would do “all we can to retain him”.
“I think the club has proven over four years we’re doing everything possible to keep him there and obviously he’s a required player,” Cochrane said.
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“We’ve got a great association and relationship with Izak, as has everybody around the club. He’s bought a house up here, he’s very much settled in up here, so that’s just our position for the momnt.
“He’s an incredibly popular person around the club. I know first-hand how much time and effort people like (coach) Stuart Dew have put into him and, importantly, I know how highly Stuart rates him.
“He’s got that message loud and clear at the Gold Coast footy club.”
Co-captain Touk Miller also made clear that convincing the “special” small forward to stay was a top priority, having already re-signed Ben King, Jack Lukosius, Ben Ainsworth, Elijah Hollands and Mac Andrew this year.
“I know there’s a lot of speculation around him and his future, but for us we really want him to be at this club. He’s a special person, special player,” Miller said.
“We’ve gone to him and had a few chats about how much he means to us and means to the club, so whether that plays a part in the decision, hopefully it does.
“As a leadership group; that’s part of what you have to do. This club wants success, and he can be a key part of that.”
Miller sympathised with Rankine’s situation as he weighs up a career- and life-changing decision, especially with the Suns looking to have turned the corner as a club.
“I know speculation like that can make it really hard around the club and can make things awkward and nervous, but we want him to feel as comfortable as possible, feel like he can still be himself and play his best footy,” he said.
“He’s human. I can say it’s not easy for him and you probably do have your head down a bit more. In saying that, we’ve still got a lot of good things out of him on game day.
“I’m not in his head, I can’t exactly say what he’s going to do, but we really want him to stay. He’s such a special part and key part to our club going forward. We’d love to have him.”
Miller was famously forthright with ex-Gold Coast co-captain Tom Lynch when he revealed in 2018 he was exercising his free agency rights to join Richmond after meeting with several Melbourne-based clubs.
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If the club is prepared to give up pick 4* and gc is insistent, i think both clubs will work to get brisbane in on the deal.
5 + 25 for Rankine + 17-ish (and maybe a 3rd for Michalanney if they have one left over)
Pick 10 on points
5 + 25 for Rankine + 17-ish (and maybe a 3rd for Michalanney if they have one left over)
Pick 10 on points
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Burton was on SA boy, traded to a 12 win team. Chayce is from Tassie and North have won 2 games.
Even then the Burton situation would be the exception, not the rule.
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Amen..I think the club will look to run something like this as their strategy. If they are clever and with some luck, we could still keep a strong draft hand by the end of trading
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