Francis bump on O'Meara

[Tex9798]

What options did he have? He couldn't tackle him, so perhaps squib the contest?

Thinking of Hodge on Heppell a few weeks ago, which was just a heavy but unavoidable clash of two blokes contesting the ball.

Probably not a comparable incident. Luke Hodge was following the ball, in fact had it and lost on control of it just before the collision, he then ran into a more or less stationary Heppell. It's not like Heppell had the ball and Hodge came and bumped him. That was more just an accident if anything.

Can try and argue he was just bracing for contact and he may get off. To me it doesn't look like he braces as he doesn't even appear to be going for the ball in the first place. But it is a reasonable argument regardless.

 

[Stopher]

Probably not a comparable incident. Luke Hodge was following the ball, in fact had it and lost on control of it just before the collision, he then ran into a more or less stationary Heppell. It's not like Heppell had the ball and Hodge came and bumped him. That was more just an accident if anything.

Can try and argue he was just bracing for contact and he may get off. To me it doesn't look like he braces as he doesn't even appear to be going for the ball in the first place. But it is a reasonable argument regardless.

I get what you mean. One could argue that what happened to Heppell was the other side of the coin for Francis had he chose to try and tackle, ie leaving himself wide open. The two situations are similar in that the ball is virtually in the hands of one player going at full speed, but not securely, so it's still a risk to try and tackle.

Francis doesn't raise the arm or jump, yet would've been struggling to get possession first but tackling would've been risky too. It was really a line-ball situation, so he's made a physical contest and protected himself too. I just struggle to see his other options.

 

[FRUMPY]

If you look at stills of any incident then you could find plenty of finable offenses. Its as if they need to get a fine quota each week. May as well call it netball these days

 

[Doss]

The thing is, I don’t think those stills conclusively show he did get him in the head. I think there’s depth deception at play there.

If he’d got him in the head, I struggle to understand how his head could then have been positioned as it was in still #3 and #4; surely it should have gone in the other direction. To me, those stills look more like someone who has been hit lower (i.e. shoulder) and whiplash has resulted.

Secondly, if he actually did collect him on the head, why wouldn’t it be a suspension? Bumps ending in head contact are very high on the list of things the AFL wants stamped out. Why only a fine if he genuinely got him on the head?

 

[Rusty Brookes]

Perfect execution. O'Meara while hurt, wasn't injured and he played out the game. It was totally in the spirit of the game.

 

[Tex9798]

I get what you mean. One could argue that what happened to Heppell was the other side of the coin for Francis had he chose to try and tackle, ie leaving himself wide open. The two situations are similar in that the ball is virtually in the hands of one player going at full speed, but not securely, so it's still a risk to try and tackle.

Francis doesn't raise the arm or jump, yet would've been struggling to get possession first but tackling would've been risky too. It was really a line-ball situation, so he's made a physical contest and protected himself too. I just struggle to see his other options.

I think you were probably on the right track, there are plenty of incidents where a player merely braces for incoming contact rather than bumping them.

Trying to think of a more relevant one? Perhaps the one where the North guy got off for getting Christensen?

 

[Runk]

Head continues in the same direction. If he hit him head high his head would go backwards. As fair a bump as you'll ever see.
Essendon should challenge but will probably be stripped of picks.

 

[Milanista28]

Perfect execution. O'Meara while hurt, wasn't injured and he played out the game. It was totally in the spirit of the game.

Yep, JOM would be the 1st person to say fair play.

 

[Mootsy]

He has to appeal.

 

[Milanista28]

He has to appeal.

Yep my 1st bit of evidence is...



1st clip lol, Released by the AFL.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

After seeing those stills I am surprised that there is any outrage over this at all.

His shoulder clearly collects O'Meara in the head.

It has been assessed as careless conduct with low impact to the head. Which point do you possibly contest?

You can't call it a perfect bump when he hits him in the head, if he didn't then sure, great bump.

Exactly the same fine as Michael Johnson.

Didn’t get his head. Watch the gif.

 

[HawkMongrel]

Crap decision. Was a perfect bump.

 

[Bigjobss]

Stills are misleading, his head whiplashes towards the shoulder AFTER the bump yet with no contact as shown in the last gif.
Must be appealed.

 

[Tex9798]

Didn’t get his head. Watch the gif.

I have seen that GIF, but a GIF from the reverse side where you can't even see the shoulder closest to his face is probably not great evidence of there being no head contact.

Perhaps stills arent great, i agree, but in that still image his face is about to connect with the shoulder. Are you saying that his head just miraculously missed the shoulder because of the body contact? Seems highly unlikely.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I have seen that GIF, but a GIF from the reverse side where you can't even see the shoulder closest to his face is probably not great evidence of there being no head contact.

Perhaps stills arent great, i agree, but in that still image his face is about to connect with the shoulder. Are you saying that his head just miraculously missed the shoulder because of the body contact? Seems highly unlikely.

There’s nothing miraculous about it, their upper arms and shoulders were the most protruded toward each other and that’s where they met. O’Maera’s head clearly whiplashes inward as a result of the body contact.

O’Maera showed no sign of head contact, Francis ran straight through him... if he got him in the head then he and all of us would have known all about it.

 

[Doss]

As I see it, the only way O’Meara’s head would move that way post-contact, if he’d been hit in the head as Christian is claiming and considering the angle Francis came from, is if his neck was made of linguini.

Now, I’d be about 110% sure O’Meara does not in fact have linguini neck.

How they have concluded from this that head contact was made is mystifying.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Great bump play on

 

[Lance Uppercut]

After seeing those stills I am surprised that there is any outrage over this at all.

His shoulder clearly collects O'Meara in the head.

It has been assessed as careless conduct with low impact to the head. Which point do you possibly contest?

You can't call it a perfect bump when he hits him in the head, if he didn't then sure, great bump.

Exactly the same fine as Michael Johnson.

no it doesn't!

It is physically impossible for his head to move in the direction the impact was supposed to have come from. It's blatantly obvious that his head continues it's momentum in a whiplash like action purely because the body has been struck.

The idea that still photos, which are well known to have the potential to be utterly misconstrued, should be used as evidence is insane.

 

[evo]

Essendon should challenge but will probably be stripped of picks.

Did LOL

 

[the PILL]

I can't work out if Michael Christian is an AFL puppet or just that tilted by Confirmation Bias he believes he is right...

Some of the things he's come up with are absolutely mind baffling..

I really thought Gil was doing a good job in his appointment at first but now I'm sort of at the point that he is seriously hurting the games fabric by using it as a laboratory for his own ego...

AFLX, Fines for punches, Super stars constantly let off, Pov embarrassing review systems, Fixturing debacles, Umpiring interpretation constantly shifting, Live attendance dwindling per fixtured teams...

The game needs bumps like the Francis/Omera bump or sooner later they might have to CGI the crowd in since their wonderful Foxtel money grab has shut out massive amouts of punting interest...

Taking away the physicality thats drawn people to AFL is risky in the long term IMO...

 

[Aeglos]

Christian clearly didn’t make it past the point in high school science where momentum was first discussed.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Francis got fined for that?! God damn.

That was a gorgeous bump, just beautiful. Legal, hard and (i believe) it was followed by a goal.

Shame.

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[Mr Meeseeks]

Yep my 1st bit of evidence is...



1st clip lol, Released by the AFL.

Oh for crying out loud! You've just got to laugh really l.

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[Spook]

That is absolute BS. Both players did the right thing. Francis had elbow down, bent his knees and stayed low and even led with his hip not his shoulder to ensure it wouldn't go high and O'Mera turned his body to protect him self... Perfect text book footy... Play on FFS... This needs to be appealed.

 

[Milanista28]

That is absolute BS. Both players did the right thing. Francis had elbow down, bent his knees and stayed low and even led with his hip not his shoulder to ensure it wouldn't go high and O'Mera turned his body to protect him self... Perfect text book footy... Play on FFS... This needs to be appealed.

We accepted. Joke decision from us, Pretty annoyed.