Premier Lg EPL Matchday 18, 19 & 20 - On Optus Sport
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Sadly I can't see us holding onto Delap after this season - but unless we agreed some dumb buy back for peanuts clause with City when we bought him then we will make a tidy profit that will fund 2-3 new players if we stay up - or an entirely new team if we're back in the Championship.
Amazing to think that most fans (both Ipswich and those outside the club) thought $15m was way overpriced when we bought him in the summer.
He's a one-man wrecking ball. Chelsea may have had most of the possession, but Delap had almost as many shots on target himself as the whole Chelsea team did over 90 minutes. There was one moment in the second half where it was him vs four defenders and he still got a shot away that the Chelsea keeper did well to save.
Our owners have said we're intent on copying the Brighton/Brentford model - so if by some miracle we avoid relegation we will still have to get used to selling our best players.
SM
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People thought he was overpriced?? He was excellent for us last season, easily worth 15-20m.
I'm a bit put out by McKenna suggesting his form/performances have built this season as he's got up to speed, as if the suggestion is he came to you not able to play like this when he played this way a lot last season. If he hadn't gotten injured I have no doubt we would have made the play offs.
There are reports of a £30m buy-back, but none that I have seen from reputable sources. City also have 20% sell on clause.
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To be fair, the only fans who were saying it was a good price were the Hull fans - who were clearly well placed to judge.
I can't pretend to be an authority on how he played last season, but I thought he missed large chunks of the season through injury and was often played as a right sided forward (not really a winger, but not the front man). For someone who had just turned 21, had only scored 8 goals in the Championship last year, and wasn't played as an out and out striker - I think it's fair to say his price tag was a leap of faith.
Every Ipswich player has grown into this season - McKenna's comments are not intended to imply he wasn't doing well at Hull. You were one of the best and most entertaining teams in the Championship last season - god only knows why your owner sacked Rosenior.
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I've seen those reports on some of the click bait football sites - but the more reputable local journos have said that is wide of the mark. I'm sure City will have first refusal and a sell on clause (20% seems about standard now), but I can't recall any other situations where the buy-back clause has a set amount. When Jayden Philogene went back to Villa they just had to match the price that Ipswich offered Hull and then deduct the sell on clause. I would imagine it's something like that.
Given he is young, English and scoring in a team that doesn't create many chances - it wouldn't surprise me to see him go for $40-50m in the summer, especially if he scores another 7-8 goals in the second half of the season. Not saying he is worth that, but it sounds like 3-4 big clubs are keeping a close watch on him.
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He was our striker when fit other than a handful of games - including against Leicester where he bagged the winner from the right forward role. He only played there I think 6 times all season though, but did miss a chunk of the season through injury - our form massively dipped to coincide with this. He scored on his second game back against you guys in a 3-3 draw. But anyway, he's a cracking player and showing every bit that he'll be a future English international.
It'll certainly be interesting to see if City go back in for him but I suspect they won't.
Yeah don't need to tell me, our recruitment has gone off a cliff too, I really think Rosenior was unifying the club and its vision so to throw him aside was bizarre just because we had a handful of poor performances - as you'd expect with a young side.
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When it hit the 10 game mark of the season the Athletic had a bit by the Tifo boys and they reviewed Forest, who at the time were third, and their underlying data suggested they were over performing but not by a huge margin (data saying they should have been 6th at the time) and the reason isn't anything revolutionary.
Focus on defence especially defending set pieces ,and a focus on defending in a way to open the space for their attack to work into especially with pacy wide players/full backs.
So while they aren't scoring a lot of goals with 26GF (worst goals scored in the top 12 teams) they are third behind Arsenal and Liverpool (both on 17 GA) with 19GA.
Tifo don't think its sustainable for the whole season though because they give up a lot of possession and shots against, and don't generate enough chances for. They allow teams to attack high so that there is space behind teams for their attack to run into the space.
Its why when they win big, its against poor teams and never by a huge margin (1-3 win v Leicester, 3-0 v WHU) or only score bigger numbers against poor defensive teams (3 v Leicester/WHU/Man U).
But that when teams put goals past them who have a strong defense (Newcastle 1-3/Arsenal 3-0/Man City 3-0 who had a strong team that week) they struggle to get anything going and can't get into the game.
Tifo at MD10 think Forest will end up finishing 10th.
Huge win at a side who have an excellent home record. We keep in semi touching distance with Liverpool which is very important.
Nwaneri is a real gem.
Nwaneri is a real gem.
Ocha905
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Was looking at the schedule and saw Arsenal travels out of London (on a massive 2hr trip to Brighton) for the first time since Nov 27 when they travelled to Lisbon. That's 9 straight games in the Capital. After Brighton they have 5 straight games at Emirates as well. Which makes 2 non-London games in almost 2 months. Now I'm hoping West Ham and Palace get relegated so there's a bit more travel parity.
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Leave Palace alone.
moomba
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Can't say I've seen too much of Gray or Spurs. But he's named at CB today. Is that right? Wouldn't have thought he had the build for that.
hawkman
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Played the last 4 at CB once Romero, Van de Ven and Davies went down. Have no real other options
hawkman
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Haha was going to ask if we are tanking by putting Timo Werner on the 1st corner
Nice cross and finish
Nice cross and finish
hawkman
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Surely can't count
hawkman
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I thought handballs leading to goals were automatically ruled out
Topkent
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So if that defects off his hand straight in, it counts as a goal? Nah lol
Rustin Cohle
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I swear Joelinton is immune to bookings. Two absolutely cynical fouls let go.
Dirty player.
Dirty player.
moomba
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Only if it's the goalscorer now.
