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So they were even lower before beating the Windies.
Bazzball is working out well...
Cricket Thread: Indian Summer
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Bazzball is working out well...
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Unless England have 11 more cricketers, they are going to get smashed when they come here next year
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The Major League Cricket final is on now. 7 Australians playing. Plus Ian Holland, who you may remember as the winner of Foxtel's "Cricket Superstar" reality TV show from 2012 as a USA local player.
Ireland managed to just win their first test.
And by just I mean they were nearly rolled by Zimbabwe. 5/21 chasing 158 which they did get with 6 down
And by just I mean they were nearly rolled by Zimbabwe. 5/21 chasing 158 which they did get with 6 down
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Ah, first home test, have to admit, I'd forgotten they'd beaten Afghanistan.
They've really fallen away since getting Test Status though.
It's disappointing Australia is going to play Scotland instead of Ireland in the next UK tour.
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Graham Thorpe passed away 
Only 55. Always liked him as a player.
Been quite sick apparently the last year or so. Was going to take over as coach of Afghanistan but had to pull out as he was hospitalised
Only 55. Always liked him as a player.
Been quite sick apparently the last year or so. Was going to take over as coach of Afghanistan but had to pull out as he was hospitalised
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Graham Thorpe passed away
Only 55. Always liked him as a player.
Been quite sick apparently the last year or so. Was going to take over as coach of Afghanistan but had to pull out as he was hospitalised
He had one tour over here were he was the only English bat with a spine. Heady times in the 90s for England where Aussie district players on extended visas were making the English test side
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I do remembering them putting down a string of catches (Devon Malcolm the easiest caught and bowled I've ever seen) on a tour here. 94/95 I guess
Thorpe grassed one in the slips just after and kicked the ball away in anger
It rolled away for runs
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Hopefully he takes us to the promised land
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We will destroy his faith in cricket by year 2
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Oh yeah, you know how when a catch is dropped and you say “ bad luck next one” if he kicked I and it went for runs surely you’d be fine to call him a campaigner and not have your team mates stand up for him.
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Can Ryano come on first change?
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This popped up on my Facebook feed today. I remember the Cronje thing of course but not specific matches that were impacted:
Nasser Hussain’s sweetest memory that turned out to be a scam
What happens when one of the sweetest days of your career turns out to be a scam? Nasser Hussain found out after shocking revelations about his first overseas Test win as captain.
The match in question here is the Centurion Test between South Africa and England in 2000. It was the fifth Test of the series that South Africa was already leading 2-0. South Africa batted first on a rain-curtailed Day 1, scoring 155/6 in 45 overs. Three days of rain followed. A draw was the only result possible when the skies cleared for Day 5.
However, before the start of play, South Africa skipper Hansie Cronje saw England wicketkeeper, Alec Stewart in the stairway. He asked him if Nasser Hussain, the England captain, would like an offer. The offer was for both captains to forfeit an innings each - South Africa forfeit their second innings while England forfeit their first innings. This would mean that England will have to simply chase down South Africa's first innings total to win. If South Africa bowl them out, it is their match.
According to Hussain, Cronje offered a possible target of 270 runs from 73 overs. An asking rate of 3.7 was stiff for those days. And staying true to their conservative nature, Hussain and Co. didn’t want to commit without a sighter at the pitch that appeared bowler-friendly on Day 1.
In fact, as recalled by Hussain himself 16 years later in a column for Daily Mail, he had dismissed the offer saying, “No, don’t be stupid. This is Test cricket, not a three-day county game. It would be degrading to do that. Thanks very much but we’ll just see out the day.”
Normal services resumed. Once Shaun Pollock and Lance Klusener added 41 runs to the overnight score, Hussain reconsidered Cronje’s offer.
He went off the field to have a chat with his counterpart. In an attempt to bargain, he offered to have a crack at 250. To his surprise, Cronje agreed without any retort. From Cronje’s suggestion of 270 from 73 overs, the deal was set to put a target of 245 from 76 overs. A required rate of 3.2 runs per over. It was much lower than what Hussain had expected, luring him further into the plan.
Cronje had a word with the match referee, Barry Jarman to discuss the legitimacy of forfeiting the innings. While there was some confusion regarding the rules, the move eventually took place for the sake of the spirit of the game. It was a welcome move after all, making a game out of nothing.
South Africa declared at 248/8. Both captains forfeited their innings, making it the first such instance in Test history. The match went down to the wire. A 126-run stand between Stewart and Michael Vaughan retrieved the visitors from 102/4. In the end, England won it by 2 wickets - with a Darren Gough boundary in the last over of the day.
It was England's first overseas win in more than a year and for Hussain, it was his first as captain. England lost the series but it was a memorable win. For fans, it was an astonishing day of cricket which went to the last over from the expectations of a dull draw. Cronje’s move to fast-forward the Test to its last innings received mixed responses.
At the post-match ceremony, he said it is the Test cricketer's duty to entertain. “Of course, I am disappointed we lost and our record of not losing in 14 matches has gone, but the choice was there and had to be taken,” he added further.
Hussain was delighted at the post-match presentation. “It was a very special thing that Hansie did and I hope he gets the credit he deserves,” he said.
Hysterically, Cronje got the deserved dues, when the twist unfolded in April that year.
The match-fixing scandal came to light. Cronje admitted all charges of match-fixing. The Centurion Test was under the scanner and within three days, it was proved that the South African skipper had struck the deal for his own benefit.
"A bookmaker urged me to speak to Hussain about an early declaration," was Cronje’s admission. When the wheels were in motion with Hussain taking the bait, he texted the bookmaker: “the game is on”.
In return, after the match, Cronje received a leather jacket and 50,000 rand. What Hussain thought to be his first overseas Test win turned out to be a well thought out plan of a match-fixer to save his money.
Hussain wrote for Daily Mail, "I feel naive and angry. Naive because I couldn't see what Cronje was up to. Angry because my first overseas Test win as England captain will forever be tainted and tarnished by match-fixers."
Michael Atherton called it the "cheapest win of his Test career" while the player-of-the-match, Michael Vaughan said it is disappointing to be involved in that match.
Nasser Hussain’s sweetest memory that turned out to be a scam
What happens when one of the sweetest days of your career turns out to be a scam? Nasser Hussain found out after shocking revelations about his first overseas Test win as captain.
The match in question here is the Centurion Test between South Africa and England in 2000. It was the fifth Test of the series that South Africa was already leading 2-0. South Africa batted first on a rain-curtailed Day 1, scoring 155/6 in 45 overs. Three days of rain followed. A draw was the only result possible when the skies cleared for Day 5.
However, before the start of play, South Africa skipper Hansie Cronje saw England wicketkeeper, Alec Stewart in the stairway. He asked him if Nasser Hussain, the England captain, would like an offer. The offer was for both captains to forfeit an innings each - South Africa forfeit their second innings while England forfeit their first innings. This would mean that England will have to simply chase down South Africa's first innings total to win. If South Africa bowl them out, it is their match.
According to Hussain, Cronje offered a possible target of 270 runs from 73 overs. An asking rate of 3.7 was stiff for those days. And staying true to their conservative nature, Hussain and Co. didn’t want to commit without a sighter at the pitch that appeared bowler-friendly on Day 1.
In fact, as recalled by Hussain himself 16 years later in a column for Daily Mail, he had dismissed the offer saying, “No, don’t be stupid. This is Test cricket, not a three-day county game. It would be degrading to do that. Thanks very much but we’ll just see out the day.”
Normal services resumed. Once Shaun Pollock and Lance Klusener added 41 runs to the overnight score, Hussain reconsidered Cronje’s offer.
He went off the field to have a chat with his counterpart. In an attempt to bargain, he offered to have a crack at 250. To his surprise, Cronje agreed without any retort. From Cronje’s suggestion of 270 from 73 overs, the deal was set to put a target of 245 from 76 overs. A required rate of 3.2 runs per over. It was much lower than what Hussain had expected, luring him further into the plan.
Cronje had a word with the match referee, Barry Jarman to discuss the legitimacy of forfeiting the innings. While there was some confusion regarding the rules, the move eventually took place for the sake of the spirit of the game. It was a welcome move after all, making a game out of nothing.
South Africa declared at 248/8. Both captains forfeited their innings, making it the first such instance in Test history. The match went down to the wire. A 126-run stand between Stewart and Michael Vaughan retrieved the visitors from 102/4. In the end, England won it by 2 wickets - with a Darren Gough boundary in the last over of the day.
It was England's first overseas win in more than a year and for Hussain, it was his first as captain. England lost the series but it was a memorable win. For fans, it was an astonishing day of cricket which went to the last over from the expectations of a dull draw. Cronje’s move to fast-forward the Test to its last innings received mixed responses.
At the post-match ceremony, he said it is the Test cricketer's duty to entertain. “Of course, I am disappointed we lost and our record of not losing in 14 matches has gone, but the choice was there and had to be taken,” he added further.
Hussain was delighted at the post-match presentation. “It was a very special thing that Hansie did and I hope he gets the credit he deserves,” he said.
Hysterically, Cronje got the deserved dues, when the twist unfolded in April that year.
The match-fixing scandal came to light. Cronje admitted all charges of match-fixing. The Centurion Test was under the scanner and within three days, it was proved that the South African skipper had struck the deal for his own benefit.
"A bookmaker urged me to speak to Hussain about an early declaration," was Cronje’s admission. When the wheels were in motion with Hussain taking the bait, he texted the bookmaker: “the game is on”.
In return, after the match, Cronje received a leather jacket and 50,000 rand. What Hussain thought to be his first overseas Test win turned out to be a well thought out plan of a match-fixer to save his money.
Hussain wrote for Daily Mail, "I feel naive and angry. Naive because I couldn't see what Cronje was up to. Angry because my first overseas Test win as England captain will forever be tainted and tarnished by match-fixers."
Michael Atherton called it the "cheapest win of his Test career" while the player-of-the-match, Michael Vaughan said it is disappointing to be involved in that match.
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It is a skill
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And pissing off Ryan Harris in the process
What is it about Adelaide sporting administrations?
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Did he want all three jobs?
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A fair knock there (Including a 39 run over).
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Ollie Pope is Englands captain???
Surely no one else wanted it?
Surely no one else wanted it?
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Disappointed to see Pope didn't bowl himself. What is the point of being captain if you don't bowl yourself?
Our captain does.
I mean, he's a top order batsman, we all know he'd bowl some offices...
Our captain does.
I mean, he's a top order batsman, we all know he'd bowl some offices...
