Covid 19 (OPEN DISCUSSION)

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I'm definitely not looking forward to my first test.
I had a PCR test in May when I returned from a trip to Melbourne (just before they went into lockdown). It stung a fair bit, but apparently the testing procedure has changed and they no longer jab it so far up your nose. I heard that shoving it so far up was never the best way to do it, but somehow it took on.
 
Went to the bottle-o, bloke asked me to show the Service WA app. Showed him and got chatting, asked him how it’s been implementing it today. Said they opened at 11 and by 12 he’d already had a couple scream at him for refusing service.

Can’t believe Mark McGowan literally forced those two people to scream at someone for literally not showing ID at a bottle shop. Good, hardworking people that just wanted a drink, and McGowan has personally seen to it that they abuse staff. They probably didn’t even want to do it. We literally live in a communist dictatorship. Literally.
 
Doesn’t that specifically address the problem you raised the other day about safety of the staff who are going to have to police the vaccination requirements?
Just very predictable, even weaved in an "Un Australian". In practice he has outsourced the hard part of a truly dreadful mandate and yes he might be able to charge the extremes, someone who smacks **** out of the pimply uni student for example, but that's hardly going to make his broken jaw feel better now is it?

You think that restrictions on nightclubs are common sense but coercive measures that have helped increase Australia’s vaccination rate to near 95% are not?
Correct. I reckon the vast majority of people in Australia would have voluntarily gone out and taken the vax without threatening them. Australians are good that way. Before the pandemic they had a high degree of trust in their leaders. But when you go down the path of taking peoples jobs and ability to do normal day to day things for refusing a procedure that could actually kill them, then I think the bigger public benefit heads to very murky territory indeed. Now we are in this slippery slope of taking ongoing boosters of the same stuff that the premier has said is only 4% effective in stopping transmission just a few weeks after getting it.
 

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Went to the bottle-o, bloke asked me to show the Service WA app. Showed him and got chatting, asked him how it’s been implementing it today. Said they opened at 11 and by 12 he’d already had a couple scream at him for refusing service.

Can’t believe Mark McGowan literally forced those two people to scream at someone for literally not showing ID at a bottle shop. Good, hardworking people that just wanted a drink, and McGowan has personally seen to it that they abuse staff. They probably didn’t even want to do it. We literally live in a communist dictatorship. Literally.

I'm not surprised the people abusing bottle shop staff are the same ones purchasing alcohol on a Monday morning.
 
I'm not surprised the people abusing bottle shop staff are the same ones purchasing alcohol on a Monday morning.
Anyone who has a problem with a Monday noon trip to the bottle shop is a mug.
 
I’ve never heard of anyone get saliva tested. I’ve had 3 PCRs and my girlfriend’s had like 8 PCRs and 4 RATs. They’re really not that bad. Feels irritating for like 1 second and then that’s it.
There's some saliva rat tests that are in the top range (95% accuracy) about. I ordered some online, thought they'd be a bit easier to self administer than jabbing sticks up your nose
 
We should probably get rid of the requirement that people provide ID when buying booze. As well as the requirement that they not be visibly drunk.

Totally unfair on bottleshop staff to outsource enforcement of those policies onto them. If some drunk 17 year old belts the shit out of an employee because he was refused service, that’s on McGowan frankly.
 
Lol. I’ve had maybe 5 PCRs and probably the same amount of RATs, it’s really not bad, tickles more than anything
Guess it depends on the person giving the test. I had a PCR where they insisted your eyes had to water as that indicated they had gone high enough to lead to a reaction from the tear duct. I felt sorry for people who were copping that everyday for work.
 
Why?? Perottet is an elected who official who was elected by the people and accountable to then when the next election is due in NSW. He was installed as leader to lead during the pandemic... Its up to him to listen to advice and then make a decision not blindly follow health advice from unelected bureaucrats many who don't have a clue what they are on about eg: closing playgrounds in Victoria, pizza box lockdowns in SA. Heck McGowan makes his own rules up as he goes along hence we never see Andy Robertson daily or doing interviews with anyone.

I love the hypocrisy in this post.

NSW: "Premier is an elected representative accountable to the people at elections, he should not blindly follow advice from unelected bureaucrats"
WA: "Premier is not making the right calls for the people of WA, he should blindly follow advice from unelected bureaucrats"

So which is it? As if we needed any more evidence of the extreme bias you display...Perrotet was not even chosen as Premier by the people, by the way...
 

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We should probably get rid of the requirement that people provide ID when buying booze. As well as the requirement that they not be visibly drunk.

Totally unfair on bottleshop staff to outsource enforcement of those policies onto them. If some drunk 17 year old belts the sh*t out of an employee because he was refused service, that’s on McGowan frankly.
Kids trying to fool the piss shop clerk is literally a right of passage. Nothing like this compliance disaster. It affects everyone. Reports of the assaults will start filtering through soon I reckon. I'm not condoning it, just predicting it. Obvious is obvious.
 
Doesn’t that specifically address the problem you raised the other day about safety of the staff who are going to have to police the vaccination requirements?
Not aimed at you but sure, there's ten of thousands of police located within a metre of a bottle shop, waiting to nab those offenders on the spot.

It's absurdly laughable.
 
Not aimed at you but sure, there's ten of thousands of police located within a metre of a bottle shop, waiting to nab those offenders on the spot.

It's absurdly laughable.

What’s that got to do with anything?

Prescribing something as an offence is a common way of deterring people from engaging in offensive behaviour. It doesn’t mean that cops have to be present at all times to police it otherwise it’s ineffective.
 
What’s that got to do with anything?

Prescribing something as an offence is a common way of deterring people from engaging in offensive behaviour. It doesn’t mean that cops have to be present at all times to police it otherwise it’s ineffective.

Nah don't you know, it's everyones fault except the person committing the offence. System failed them, government failed them, McGowan made them throw hands.
 
Nah don't you know, it's everyones fault except the person committing the offence. System failed them, government failed them, McGowan made them throw hands.
This is like banning police and saying it's not the govt's fault when crime spikes. It's a stupid, unnecessary and divisive mandate that is already driving anger and frustration in the community.
 
I love the hypocrisy in this post.

NSW: "Premier is an elected representative accountable to the people at elections, he should not blindly follow advice from unelected bureaucrats"
WA: "Premier is not making the right calls for the people of WA, he should blindly follow advice from unelected bureaucrats"

So which is it? As if we needed any more evidence of the extreme bias you display...Perrotet was not even chosen as Premier by the people, by the way...

Are your eyes for decoration or are they painted on?
Where did i say Perrotet was elected premier? I said he was installed…
As for your second point you have actually made my point. The original poster was up in arms about nsw not following the health advice when McGowan doesn’t follow it himself …

As for bias i don’t care. i hate McGowan with a passion for what he has done to families including mine and wish a great number of things on him… so what.
 
Are your eyes for decoration or are they painted on?
Where did i say Perrotet was elected premier? I said he was installed…
As for your second point you have actually made my point. The original poster was up in arms about nsw not following the health advice when McGowan doesn’t follow it himself …

As for bias i don’t care. i hate McGowan with a passion for what he has done to families including mine and wish a great number of things on him… so what.

Perottet is an elected who official who was elected by the people

As for your second point, so when should a Premier follow health advice? Only when it agrees with your viewpoint? I'd be hoping Perrotet follows Dr Chant and McGowan follows Dr Robertson but the evidence so far indicates it's only the latter and not the former.

As for bias, great to see you've finally given up pretending to be objective. I fully expect your retort to be 'well you're even more biased for your Premier you fanboy', by the way...
 
As for your second point, so when should a Premier follow health advice? Only when it agrees with your viewpoint? I'd be hoping Perrotet follows Dr Chant and McGowan follows Dr Robertson but the evidence so far indicates it's only the latter and not the former.

As for bias, great to see you've finally given up pretending to be objective. I fully expect your retort to be 'well you're even more biased for your Premier you fanboy', by the way...

Ahh theres a reason why McGowan doesn’t have Robertson anywhere near his daily press conferences.. its because he contradicts McGowan every time he does…

You can hate someones guts and be objective.. happens in the workplace all the time..
 
The Anti Vaxer's in Australia will still have the privilege of getting treated in hospital even when they end up being wrong!
Try pulling that move in other countries throughout the World where they turn anti Vaxer's away due to limited beds/resources.

We don't turn away fat people, smokers etc. but we do place them lower in triage situations and on donor lists. The same thing will happen for the unvaccinated. That doesn't mean we should be locking them out of society and showing our papers in an increasingly and worryingly authoritarian trend. I don't have much faith in the sheeple, but I really didn't think Australians were this mean and petty.
 
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